Dieter to transfer

[mscarn]

We again prove we have quite arguably the nicest fan base in Division I athletics. One wonders what the reaction of the Alabama fan base would be if the situation was reversed.

[gmartin]

What Masters degree costs 120K?

The cost of a Kellogg degree exceeds $300K. If NW gave me $120K for my master's I still couldn't afford it but it would be a tempting offer with better ROI.

Fwiw Globe I got my Marketing PhD and it costs me $218,500. I still ended up paying out of pocket $100,000 plus 2 1/2 years for housing. Evanston isn't cheap either. Shared a house with 3 people and still paid over $800 a month for rent.

[Flipper]

We again prove we have quite arguably the nicest fan base in Division I athletics. One wonders what the reaction of the Alabama fan base would be if the situation was reversed.

The Alabama fan base poisoned and killed the historic Oak grove at Auburn because someone put a Cam Newton jersey on the statue of Bear Bryant. I don't want to be like the Alabama fan base.... I'm OK with someone taking a shot at a bigger stage if they've earned it.

[kdog27]

We again prove we have quite arguably the nicest fan base in Division I athletics. One wonders what the reaction of the Alabama fan base would be if the situation was reversed.

None of us want him to leave. We're also realists. Playing football for Alabama > playing football for Bowling Green. Maybe if I get all pissed off about it will make him change his mind...


Toledo's qb transferred from Alabama so there is a precedence. I don't remember alabama fans caring much.

[Beaker]

We again prove we have quite arguably the nicest fan base in Division I athletics. One wonders what the reaction of the Alabama fan base would be if the situation was reversed.

Let's find out.

"I heard Calvin Ridley is transferring to Bowling Green. He's enrolling in the summer and will be eligible to play in 2017. His favorite uncle is a close friend of Mike Jinks since childhood and he talked him into coming to BG."

That should do it. Let the internet rumors begin!

[hammb]

We again prove we have quite arguably the nicest fan base in Division I athletics. One wonders what the reaction of the Alabama fan base would be if the situation was reversed.

The Alabama fan base poisoned and killed the historic Oak grove at Auburn because someone put a Cam Newton jersey on the statue of Bear Bryant. I don't want to be like the Alabama fan base.... I'm OK with someone taking a shot at a bigger stage if they've earned it.

If BG sports ever gets to what OSU, UM, Alabama, USC, etc are I will never post on this site again. I don't want anything to do with a mega sports program at my alma mater.

I love playing against those teams for the pub. I love beating those teams because they have so many built in advantages I find it hilarious when MAC teams can compete and win against them. But I sure as hell don't want to be them.

Major college athletics has become about winning and making money even moreso than professional sports. And all the while they do it trying to play the card of being "amateur" and "about the love of the game," etc. It's a shady business that I want nothing to do with. As for Dieter, I'd hate to see him go because he's been one of my favorite players the past couple years, but if he has an opportunity to transfer to a major program and play then he'd be a damned fool not to. Now if he's gonna transfer there and not get a shot to play I think it'd be a poor choice as he'd be the #1 target here next year. I have to believe if he's considering that move he's gonna have assurances from their coaching staff at a fair amount of playing time.

And I think with his size/hands combo he's going to tear up any league he plays in, and I think he has legit value as an NFL WR.

[Schadenfreude]

he has an opportunity to transfer to a major program and play then he'd be a damned fool not to.

Bowling Green is a major program. Division I is for major college football programs, and Bowling Green is better than most of them, even if we aren't an Alabama.

[Falconfreak90]

That was well said, Hammb. I hate to admit but college football has become a sleazy biz. OTOH, I would love to see BG become the next Boise State or Houston. We can be a player on the national level consistently even if we never make the Top 10. I want access to the NYD bowls and playoffs. We don't take a back seat to anyone.

BEAT OHIO STATE

[Flipper]

he has an opportunity to transfer to a major program and play then he'd be a damned fool not to.

Bowling Green is a major program. Division I is for major college football programs, and Bowling Green is better than most of them, even if we aren't an Alabama.

We are not a major program...we are a mid major...at best. Alabama...OSU...Oregon...FSU....Clemson....LSU...Michigan....these are "major" programs. The notion that the term "Division 1" means that all 120 something....more if you count the FCS schools which are also D1...are in the same boat is quaint, but it doesn't represent reality.

I like our niche...we draw some outstanding student athletes, we play in a geographically sensible conference with a lot of traditional rivalries, we can and have competed with the programs that occupy the bottom rungs of the "major" ladder and you can park within walking distance of our stadium and buy a ticket for less than it would cost you to park within a mile of the Horseshoe. Get rid of those November mid week games and I'd be 100% satisfied with our situation.

[BillyLP]

Aside from rumors and signs on twitter, has there been any verification of this yet? I believe it's happening, but am curious when an announcement would take place. Looks like he's still pretty active around campus so he's not rushing out the door or anything.

[Schadenfreude]

he has an opportunity to transfer to a major program and play then he'd be a damned fool not to.

Bowling Green is a major program. Division I is for major college football programs, and Bowling Green is better than most of them, even if we aren't an Alabama.

We are not a major program...we are a mid major...at best.

The term "mid-major" doesn't mean almost major. It means middle major. In other words: Not a high major, not a low major, but in the middle tier of the major colleges.

Alabama...OSU...Oregon...FSU....Clemson....LSU...Michigan....these are "major" programs. The notion that the term "Division 1" means that all 120 something....more if you count the FCS schools which are also D1...is quaint, but it doesn't represent reality.

Bowling Green is a major college football program. This is not a quaint idea. This is established terminology based on decades of tradition.

For decades, the NCAA classified football programs as either major college or small college. In the 1970s, the major colleges became Division I and members of the small college division were assigned to either Division II or Division III. Bowling Green has played major college ball since the early 1960s, a couple of years after winning the unofficial small college (Division II) football national title.

To this day, the Associated Press still provides subscribers a summary of major college football scores:

http://wtop.com/ncaa-football/2015/09/m ... ll-scores/" target="_blank

As that link shows, AP's list of major college football scores includes all Division I schools. Division I means major, and Bowling Green is a major college -- not a superpower, not a member of a so-called "P5" conference, but still absolutely, unequivocally major.

(And, I hope, capable of taking down Ohio State in a few months, with or without Dieter's help.)

[kdog27]

Aside from rumors and signs on twitter, has there been any verification of this yet? I believe it's happening, but am curious when an announcement would take place. Looks like he's still pretty active around campus so he's not rushing out the door or anything.

I would assume he has to complete this semester and graduate before anything could officially happen.

The signing day article on Hustle Belt hinted at another player other than Lewis leaving. Where did they get that information? Possibly here, but I don't know that.

[Globetrotter]

Dino!

Division 1 in name only!

[Flipper]

he has an opportunity to transfer to a major program and play then he'd be a damned fool not to.

Bowling Green is a major program. Division I is for major college football programs, and Bowling Green is better than most of them, even if we aren't an Alabama.

We are not a major program...we are a mid major...at best.

The term "mid-major" doesn't mean almost major. It means middle major. In other words: Not a high major, not a low major, but in the middle tier of the major colleges.

Alabama...OSU...Oregon...FSU....Clemson....LSU...Michigan....these are "major" programs. The notion that the term "Division 1" means that all 120 something....more if you count the FCS schools which are also D1...is quaint, but it doesn't represent reality.

Bowling Green is a major college football program. This is not a quaint idea. This is established terminology based on decades of tradition.

For decades, the NCAA classified football programs as either major college or small college. In the 1970s, the major colleges became Division I and members of the small college division were assigned to either Division II or Division III. Bowling Green has played major college ball since the early 1960s, a couple of years after winning the unofficial small college (Division II) football national title.

To this day, the Associated Press still provides subscribers a summary of major college football scores:

http://wtop.com/ncaa-football/2015/09/m ... ll-scores/" target="_blank

As that link shows, AP's list of major college football scores includes all Division I schools. Division I means major, and Bowling Green is a major college -- not a superpower, not a member of a so-called "P5" conference, but still absolutely, unequivocally major.

(And, I hope, capable of taking down Ohio State in a few months, with or without Dieter's help.)

Do words on a page define reality for you or does the actual day-to-day events that shape our collective experiences define reality? I think it's awesome that there's some written definition that says we're the same as Alabama. The disparity between us and them on virtually every plane that defines the term "major" in the world of college football tells me that putting any weight behind that definition is delusional

[hammb]

Sorry. I didn't realize the term "Major" was defined or used by the NCAA to differentiate divisions in anyway.

I guess I'll need to come up with a different word. I'm open to suggestions.

There is clearly a massive difference between Alabama & Bowling Green. In terms of exposure, revenue, and in most cases quality of play. I have always used the term "Major College Football" vs "Mid-Major". Or P5 versus G5 I suppose could work, but IMO that is disingenuous because I think the gap between Alabama and Wake Forest is larger than the gap between WF and BG, but Wake is still a P5 team.

How about I rephrase it by saying if Dieter has a chance to transfer to a "Win at all costs, develop NFL talent as a secondary goal, and ensure national television for every game of the season" team? Does that quantify the difference between the two?

Clearly we're D1A, because that is defined by scholarships allocated. But beyond that we don't have much in common with how football is managed at the Alabamas of the world. As I stated before I'm more than happy with that, because I don't WANT that. But there is clearly a differentiation, so I need a good word to use. To me that word was "major". It's nothing to be hurt over. Wake Forest, Illinois, and Iowa State aren't "major" college football by my definition either.