Urbie might be available sooner than we thought...

[gmartin]

Zach Smith taking recruits to a strip club alone should have gotten him fired. And Urban deletes all text messages older than 1 year old. Meyer is looking like a douche bag. And yes he is suspended from the TCU game. Somebody should lock him up in a jail cell during that game. You darn well no he will be in contact with the coaching staff probably over a prepaid cell phone. Oregon State and Rutgers, hmmm I don't even think Mike Jinks could screw that up.

[Schadenfreude]

The biggest thing out of all this that caught my eye was Urban deliberately deleted text messages over a year old on his phone, which would be obstruction or tampering of evidence in any criminal case.

That caught my eye, too. (In fairness: They don't seem to have absolute proof Meyer deliberately deleted texts, but it sure looks like a strong possibility that he did.)

[MarkL]

I want to know what phone he has. My specialty is mobile forensics. I run a blog on advanced Android forensics techniques. If I had my hands on his phone and legal authority to image it, I like my chances of recovering those deleted messages. That would make for one hell of a blog post.

[Falconwriter]

Zach Smith taking recruits to a strip club alone should have gotten him fired. And Urban deletes all text messages older than 1 year old. Meyer is looking like a douche bag. And yes he is suspended from the TCU game. Somebody should lock him up in a jail cell during that game. You darn well no he will be in contact with the coaching staff probably over a prepaid cell phone. Oregon State and Rutgers, hmmm I don't even think Mike Jinks could screw that up.

He did not take recruits to a strip club...he took high school coaches...not recruits. Big difference. Had it been recruits, yes, that's a clear NCAA violation, and would likely have also been illegal unless they were over 18. But it didn't happen.

As for the texts, I have a hard time believing there would have been any smoking gun related to this investigation -- not given everything else they looked at, including texts from other people's phones (that would have showed contact with Meyer if it were there.) Also, many phones will delete texts after a year, depending on how you set it up.

[jpfalcon09]

The biggest thing out of all this that caught my eye was Urban deliberately deleted text messages over a year old on his phone, which would be obstruction or tampering of evidence in any criminal case.

That caught my eye, too. (In fairness: They don't seem to have absolute proof Meyer deliberately deleted texts, but it sure looks like a strong possibility that he did.)

He had a conversation with another coach on the practice field who mentioned it, who then apparently mentioned it to the investigation team, who then go through Urban's phone and can't find texts older than a year. Of course the final report says that they couldn't recover those, then dismiss it as merely a coincidence. The cherry on top for me is Meyer then saying he basically has selective amnesia due to medication he's on. The whole thing is a joke.

[jpfalcon09]

Zach Smith taking recruits to a strip club alone should have gotten him fired. And Urban deletes all text messages older than 1 year old. Meyer is looking like a douche bag. And yes he is suspended from the TCU game. Somebody should lock him up in a jail cell during that game. You darn well no he will be in contact with the coaching staff probably over a prepaid cell phone. Oregon State and Rutgers, hmmm I don't even think Mike Jinks could screw that up.

He did not take recruits to a strip club...he took high school coaches...not recruits. Big difference. Had it been recruits, yes, that's a clear NCAA violation, and would likely have also been illegal unless they were over 18. But it didn't happen.

As for the texts, I have a hard time believing there would have been any smoking gun related to this investigation -- not given everything else they looked at, including texts from other people's phones (that would have showed contact with Meyer if it were there.) Also, many phones will delete texts after a year, depending on how you set it up.

There's plenty of smoking guns. Smith having an affair with an office secretary, using a university phone to browse pornographic material, ordering sex toys to his university address. The report outlines 7+ instances where Meyer threatens to fire Smith if he doesn't clean up his act. His conduct was unbecoming of a state employee and of someone designated with the responsibility of molding young men, and are all fireable offenses. Meyer chose to do nothing until the public got wind of it, lies to the media, then gives some BS reasoning about selective memory loss because of his medication? The dude thinks he's above the law and that he didn't do anything wrong, that was evident last night during his phony press conference. Smith should have been fired a long time ago if Urban cared about doing the right thing.

[Schadenfreude]

The biggest thing out of all this that caught my eye was Urban deliberately deleted text messages over a year old on his phone, which would be obstruction or tampering of evidence in any criminal case.

That caught my eye, too. (In fairness: They don't seem to have absolute proof Meyer deliberately deleted texts, but it sure looks like a strong possibility that he did.)

He had a conversation with another coach on the practice field who mentioned it, who then apparently mentioned it to the investigation team, who then go through Urban's phone and can't find texts older than a year. Of course the final report says that they couldn't recover those, then dismiss it as merely a coincidence. The cherry on top for me is Meyer then saying he basically has selective amnesia due to medication he's on. The whole thing is a joke.

Without question, it looks an awful lot like Urban Meyer may have changed the settings on his phone to start deleting text messages older than one year soon after the strategy was suggested to him by the director of football operations (and after The Lantern filed a public records request for texts back to 2015).

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[kdog27]

You can get deleted texts off your phone. It's not simple but not complicated for someone who knows what they are doing. Kind of like when I looked up porn yesterday than cleared my browser. I mean what

[MarkL]

You can get deleted texts off your phone. It's not simple but not complicated for someone who knows what they are doing. Kind of like when I looked up porn yesterday than cleared my browser. I mean what

First you have to get a physical image of the phone. I doubt the investigators did anything more than thumbing through. Then you have to search the image slack space. Whether iOS or Android, the message database deletes the message but it can be found in slack, so long as it has not been overwritten. The trick is encryption.

[Flipper]

At best... Urbie can say he demonstrated poor judgement in handling personnel issues and that may be attributed in part to cognitive impairment from medication. Yeah...OK....sounds good to me.

[gmartin]

So after all this information came out at Ohio State and after 33 arrests of players while being the head coach at Florida, not including the troubles of Aaron Hernandez at his watch, which is why I think he actually took a year off from coaching. If Urban would have been fired would you hire him at BG.

[It's the Journey...]

So after all this information came out at Ohio State and after 33 arrests of players while being the head coach at Florida, not including the troubles of Aaron Hernandez at his watch, which is why I think he actually took a year off from coaching. If Urban would have been fired would you hire him at BG.

Not a snowballs chance in hell.

[gmartin]

So after all this information came out at Ohio State and after 33 arrests of players while being the head coach at Florida, not including the troubles of Aaron Hernandez at his watch, which is why I think he actually took a year off from coaching. If Urban would have been fired would you hire him at BG.

Not a snowballs chance in hell.

Let's see how 60yearsSicSic feels now.

[Flipper]

Nope....not unless he became a reforms crusader and we went scholarship free like Dayton . We could be his penance...

[pdt1081]

Highly doubt that. Private companies aren't going to take on liability of someone knowing about abuse and refusing to do anything about it. Almost everyone has code of conduct policies that include reporting sexual abuse/assault. That'd be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

If it's not happening on company property or time, and at least one police report has been filed, where's the liability?

Shortly after we bought our house, Life flight landed in our neighbor's front yard because the guy beat the crap out of his wife/girlfriend/whatever. I was told what actually happened a day or two later by another neighbor. Since I then had knowledge of it, was I obligated to report it? Or was the police report on file enough?