gmartin wrote:I don't feel sorry for the assistant coaches either. That's life being a coach. Assistant coaches are on one-year contracts anyways. The players are the ones I feel sorry for. When they were recruited I bet they believe that they would play for a championship-caliber team. That's far from the truth. They could have went to another school and probably had a better chance at a championship. For the seniors, they would have been recruited by Babers, stayed and played for Jinks, and now Carl, and next year have another coach.
If they are seniors they won't have the new coach next year. Just saying.
I know it looks as if there's no talent to turn this around very fast -- especially on defense. But I'm gonna say that with the right hire, this team could be back to around .500 within two seasons. Why would I think that? Because I believe Jinks and staff were THAT BAD. Given someone who could bring in a bit of talent right away, I think the D can be greatly improved. And if we don't see an exodus of players, the offense should be good enough the next two years to score a lot of points. We are living in an age of very offensive (no pun intended) football...so the new coach doesn't have to create the greatest defense in MAC history, just one that's competent and can get off the field.
I feel bad for current students. My five years as a student were all during the Brandon years. We tied for several east championships, we had bowl games, we beat Minnesota and Pitt. We rocked UT.
What do these students have? Besides the seniors who were around in 2015, they have blowout losses, a loss to an FCS, and little reason to care.
Why am I such a big fan? Why am I a Falcon Club member and regular donor and season ticket buyer? Why do I still follow the team so closely? Because I was around for the Brandon years. Problems and all, we had good football. Exciting, winning football.
I sincerely hope some of the students now become the same sort of alums who give to the program and follow it so closely. But if not, I can't really blame them.
MarkL has spoken.
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I'm a hoops lifer. My grandparents had season tickets since the 60s and I was going to Anderson before I was in kindergarten. Football was far less ingrained in me. I was raised to root for OSU. When I was at BG I had the fortune of meeting and working with many of the football guys and I grew attached to that program, even during the down years at the end of the Blackney era. If they hadn't brought in Urban Meyer for my senior year I cannot say that I ever would have abandoned that OSU attachment in favor of my own Alma mater. Even while in school I went to most of the games then went home to root on the buckeyes. It wasn't until Urban and Brandon that I realized how fun falcon football could be.
I cannot imagine how anybody in school for the past 3 years could have an attachment to this program. The good news is the right hire can cement that attachment pretty quickly.
Falconwriter wrote:I know it looks as if there's no talent to turn this around very fast -- especially on defense. But I'm gonna say that with the right hire, this team could be back to around .500 within two seasons. Why would I think that? Because I believe Jinks and staff were THAT BAD. Given someone who could bring in a bit of talent right away, I think the D can be greatly improved. And if we don't see an exodus of players, the offense should be good enough the next two years to score a lot of points. We are living in an age of very offensive (no pun intended) football...so the new coach doesn't have to create the greatest defense in MAC history, just one that's competent and can get off the field.
Agreed. There is a ton of parity in the MAC right now.
Michael W.
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gspointer wrote:I feel bad for the coaches who are in a no win situation
Really?? Are you serious?? You feel sorry for Mike Jinks friends that got boned a D1 Job from a glorified high school football coach? The same coaches that helped recruit this disaster of a roster? I don't feel one bit of sympathy for those coaches. Their terrible at their job.[/quote
Well coming from you I don’t take it seriously. Yes Jinks inherited a poor roster. No decent qb and no defense. Offensive line pretty much sucked as well. Just a bad place for a first year head coach.
Uh, Jinks inherited the nation's most experienced offensive line. Once the staff figured out how to use them, that line powered 300 yard rush games. But it took all season for the staff to figure that out.
Jinks also inherited a championship QB. Knapke won the MAC east and a bowl game in 2014, first year in a new offense. Knapke was plenty effective in 2014. But not so in 2016.
Jinks inherited starters and depth from a championship defense. That defense ended up as one of the MAC's best in 2015 and returned starters and depth at all players. Yet they were ineffective in 2016.
The "cupboard is bare" narrative just falls flat.
But hey. All that is in the past.
MarkL has spoken.
You may all now return to your daily lives.
Was at the game on Saturday and just now getting a chance to comment. I went into the game with some level of optimism that we'd see a team with a different look to it, in terms of playing with energy and better effort. I thought we'd make a game of it. Obviously, that was wishful thinking.
As I watched our defense get pushed all over the field and the offense lose their spark after that first drive, it became clear to me that this thing is not going to turn around for a good while. I don't buy the hype about Jinks' recruiting classes being top notch. Our guys look out manned and they don't play with any competitive fire. I'm speaking in general terms and I realize there are some individual exceptions, but I'm not sure how much success the right coach will have turning around this batch of players. There's been so much losing, it doesn't seem like they're playing like they think they can win. The new coach needs to focus recruiting on guys that come from winning programs because it just doesn't look to me like these guys are willing or able to put out the kind of effort it takes to build a winning team. Being small, slow and unmotivated is an ugly combination and whoever takes over this program is going to have his work cut out for him.
MarkL wrote:Uh, Jinks inherited the nation's most experienced offensive line. Once the staff figured out how to use them, that line powered 300 yard rush games. But it took all season for the staff to figure that out.
Jinks also inherited a championship QB. Knapke won the MAC east and a bowl game in 2014, first year in a new offense. Knapke was plenty effective in 2014. But not so in 2016.
Jinks inherited starters and depth from a championship defense. That defense ended up as one of the MAC's best in 2015 and returned starters and depth at all players. Yet they were ineffective in 2016.
The "cupboard is bare" narrative just falls flat.
But hey. All that is in the past.
Our offensive line was terrible against virtually any decent competition. Knapke had no receivers that first year. Our defense was well our defense. Never was great even that championship year. Take off the bg classes regarding the talent. We are just not been competitive. Anyone with eyes could have seen that coming after babes left
