BGSU is an early 9 point dog....

[BGSUVA]

Running for 196 yds on a SEC defense is alot harder than passing for 458 on a B10 secondardy. Thats the cold hard truth.

I don't agree with him much, but that is true. specially when you take into account which defenses they were. There is no comparison between big ten and SEC defenses. SEC would dominate them anyday.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

except for the fact that it was 169 yards not 196.

That....plus you're both wrong IMO. I'm not going to look up stats but I'm assuming that SEC defenses giving up 169 yards on the ground happens much more often than B11 defenses giving up 458 in the air.

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

except for the fact that it was 169 yards not 196.

That....plus you're both wrong IMO. I'm not going to look up stats but I'm assuming that SEC defenses giving up 169 yards on the ground happens much more often than B11 defenses giving up 458 in the air.

Of course they are both wrong. Anyone who follows college football should recognize immediately how stupid Falconboy's claim is. For example, last week 4 SEC teams gave up more than 169 yards rushing whereas 2 big ten teams game up more than 458 yards passing. My guess would be that, usually, the ratio is even greater than 2:1.

[Flipper]

No doubt...169 yds rushing is a decent total. 458 in the air is an assload of yardage. Very few teams give up that kind of yardage and I doubt you'll find too many defensive coordinators that would think letting up that much passing yardage is a better defensive effort than giving up less than 200 on the ground.

[Falcon30]

Running for 196 yds on a SEC defense is alot harder than passing for 458 on a B10 secondardy. Thats the cold hard truth.

I don't agree with him much, but that is true. specially when you take into account which defenses they were. There is no comparison between big ten and SEC defenses. SEC would dominate them anyday.

there is "no comparison?"

sheesh

and yeah "Running for 196 yds on a SEC defense is alot harder than passing for 458 on a B10 secondardy. Thats the cold hard truth." is blatantly untrue. Not only for reasons told above, but you can't lump "SEC teams" together. Is Ohio State the same defensively as Illinois? That is like saying "MAC teams can't hang with Big Ten teams."

[Falconboy]

that is alot harder to run well on a quick , athletic defense like the ones that the SEC puts up usually. Decicamating a Big 10 secondary is not uncommon. Their best defensive players are at D-line and linebacker. The SEC always has great athletes, and I see Boise a mid-major running for 169 yds on Georgia pretty darn good in my book. They could've competed alot better in that game had Zbransky not laid a huge egg in that game.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Decicamating a Big 10 secondary is not uncommon.

No doubt. I've never seen a B11 D get decicimated.

To cut through all the Bull -- You said, with no room for misinterpretation, that it is a lot harder to run for 169 yards on a SEC defense than it is to pass for 458 yards on a B11 defense. You said that was the "cold hard truth".


Wrong answer. If we really wanted to, we could put up a comparable rushing total on a lot of SEC defenses methinks. The better question would be, could Boise have put up 458 yards on Wisconsin? I have no idea. The one thing I do know is that Boise's performance, in any aspect of the game, against Georgia left me anything but awestruck.

I think Boise is a very good football team that has some issues on the defensive side of the ball. I think most would say the exact same thing about us. I'm not shaking in my booties like you just hoping to not get beat by 50 tomorrow night. I think you are overrating Boise and underrating BG. Of course that's your right, but I'm just getting a little tired of hearing about how much better they are than us from you.

[1987alum]

A few facts ...

In 2004, the Georgia defense gave up an average of 106.9 yards per game on the ground and an average of 182 yards passing per game. I'll save everyone the math and tell you that's less than 300 yards per game on defense, which is pretty awesome and 4th in the SEC.

The average SEC team gave up about 150 yards per game rushing.

In 2004, the Wisconsin defense gave up an average of 124 yards per game on the ground and 167 yards per game through the air. The math is similar, less than 300 yards per game on defense, which is also pretty awesome, but only placed Wisconsin 7th among the Big Tenleven teams.

The average Big Tenleven team gave up about 217 yards per game through the air.

A little more math, then.

Boise State ran for approximately 58% more yards than the average Georgia opponent; about 13% more than the average opponent of an SEC team.

Bowling Green threw for 265% more yards than the average Wisconsin opponent; about 108% more than the average opponent of a Big Tenleven team.

Enough meaningless stats. Carry on.

[BelieveNBG]

A little more math, then.

Boise State ran for approximately 58% more yards than the average Georgia opponent; about 13% more than the average opponent of an SEC team.

Bowling Green threw for 265% more yards than

And this is why I LOVE MATH. The facts (math) don't lie and the fact (math) is that this just further proved how wrong the following statement was:

Running for 196 yds on a SEC defense is alot harder than passing for 458 on a B10 secondardy. Thats the cold hard truth.

[truth]

imo 400+ yds > 169 yds... no matter how the hell they come along. Big Ten vs. SEC is a wash, they're both similar in strength.

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

that is alot harder to run well on a quick , athletic defense like the ones that the SEC puts up usually. Decicamating a Big 10 secondary is not uncommon. Their best defensive players are at D-line and linebacker. The SEC always has great athletes, and I see Boise a mid-major running for 169 yds on Georgia pretty darn good in my book. They could've competed alot better in that game had Zbransky not laid a huge egg in that game.

Again, as pointed out above, your generalizations are ridiculous. Over the past decade, Ohio State, for example, has produced more quality NFL defensive backs than most (probably all) SEC teams.

Do you think D-linemen and linebackers don't affect the passing game? Have you ever heard of a pass rush? Blitzes? Linebackers in pass coverage?

Also, Look at the stats! Your claims are not supported by the numbers.