2022 Transfer Portal

[jpfalcon09]

Broden commits to Arkansas. Good for him!

[Globetrotter]

Broden Arkansas
Anderson UCLA
Grant Purdue?
JB Brown Kansas
Davon Ferguson Ga Southern

[hammb]

Broden Arkansas
Anderson UCLA
Grant Purdue?
JB Brown Kansas
Davon Ferguson Ga Southern

If the staff isn't out there touting their ability to develop talent and get them to NIL deals in the P5 they still don't understand this landscape.

Losing the players sucks, but we'll never keep kids getting calls from places like Arkansas and UCLA. Use that to your advantage on the recruiting trail.

[Globetrotter]

Broden Arkansas
Anderson UCLA
Grant Purdue?
JB Brown Kansas
Davon Ferguson Ga Southern

If the staff isn't out there touting their ability to develop talent and get them to NIL deals in the P5 they still don't understand this landscape.

Losing the players sucks, but we'll never keep kids getting calls from places like Arkansas and UCLA. Use that to your advantage on the recruiting trail.

I wonder if there start being pipelines like sometimes happens with Jucos in hoops and high schools in all sports. But you are absolutely right. You can stomp your feet and say you don't like it....Or you can accept it and use it for your benefit.

[BGSU33]

Broden Arkansas
Anderson UCLA
Grant Purdue?
JB Brown Kansas
Davon Ferguson Ga Southern

If the staff isn't out there touting their ability to develop talent and get them to NIL deals in the P5 they still don't understand this landscape.

Losing the players sucks, but we'll never keep kids getting calls from places like Arkansas and UCLA. Use that to your advantage on the recruiting trail.

I don't necessarily disagree with your point on some of these guys, but something also needs to be mentioned about these losses in addition to simply losing guys to P5 schools. First off, not all G5 schools are simply rolling over and watching P5 teams steal away their players, or having their guys walk away in droves to P5 schools. There are a couple MAC schools who not only retain most of their star players, but actually keep their star players (as in the guys want to stay). Secondly, Anderson and Grant were full-time starters for BG. There's really nothing more we could have done to keep either if their decision was simply to leave BG. While Brown wasn't listed as a starter, he played and produced like one. In fact he outplayed some of the guys who actually did start in front of him. Did that play into his decision to leave? Maybe, maybe not. Ferguson isn't going to a P5 program, but he's a P5-caliber guy. Unfortunately he never made it through a season for BG and played in just 2 games this year. We missed out on a lot of playmaking from him and he showed us in the Minnesota game last year how big some of his plays could be. All that said, the real glaring elephant in the room is with Broden. I'm sorry, but there's no way anyone can convince me that we utilized him properly or up to his ability. He only started 7 games this year but did play in all 13 games. But here's the real crime - he only averaged 2.5 receptions per game for BG for 38.9 ypg. Guys, he averaged 15.8 ypr. That's a first down and a half per catch for a team that dinks and dunks. He is 6-7, has a massive wingspan and catch radius, and great speed to go along with it...and he averaged less than 2.5 receptions per game - for the season! That is a crime. And no, BG wasn't a strong running team either, which could play into having low numbers. I'm sorry, but we royally f'ed up with Broden. We rarely went downfield to him and teams rarely had to defend against the threat of us trying to utilize him. This was a travesty. Would starting Broden all 13 games and getting him 8-10 catches a game have kept him at BG? Who knows. But one thing is for sure, the way we utilized him - or better said - not utilized him like we did - I can guarantee we helped facilitated him leaving BG because of it. Whether we had a chance to keep him at BG or not, we botched the hell out of what he could have been or done for BG this season. That much is for sure.

[Globetrotter]

2 offers
1. Jamari Buddin-Penn State LB https://gopsusports.com/sports/football ... ddin/12601 Former 4 star 11th best player in Michigan in his class
2. Marquette Harris-Ventura College DB https://www.hudl.com/video/3/5371369/63 ... 0d3484c7a4

[roguewarrior]

Broden Arkansas
Anderson UCLA
Grant Purdue?
JB Brown Kansas
Davon Ferguson Ga Southern

If the staff isn't out there touting their ability to develop talent and get them to NIL deals in the P5 they still don't understand this landscape.

Losing the players sucks, but we'll never keep kids getting calls from places like Arkansas and UCLA. Use that to your advantage on the recruiting trail.

I don't necessarily disagree with your point on some of these guys, but something also needs to be mentioned about these losses in addition to simply losing guys to P5 schools. First off, not all G5 schools are simply rolling over and watching P5 teams steal away their players, or having their guys walk away in droves to P5 schools. There are a couple MAC schools who not only retain most of their star players, but actually keep their star players (as in the guys want to stay). Secondly, Anderson and Grant were full-time starters for BG. There's really nothing more we could have done to keep either if their decision was simply to leave BG. While Brown wasn't listed as a starter, he played and produced like one. In fact he outplayed some of the guys who actually did start in front of him. Did that play into his decision to leave? Maybe, maybe not. Ferguson isn't going to a P5 program, but he's a P5-caliber guy. Unfortunately he never made it through a season for BG and played in just 2 games this year. We missed out on a lot of playmaking from him and he showed us in the Minnesota game last year how big some of his plays could be. All that said, the real glaring elephant in the room is with Broden. I'm sorry, but there's no way anyone can convince me that we utilized him properly or up to his ability. He only started 7 games this year but did play in all 13 games. But here's the real crime - he only averaged 2.5 receptions per game for BG for 38.9 ypg. Guys, he averaged 15.8 ypr. That's a first down and a half per catch for a team that dinks and dunks. He is 6-7, has a massive wingspan and catch radius, and great speed to go along with it...and he averaged less than 2.5 receptions per game - for the season! That is a crime. And no, BG wasn't a strong running team either, which could play into having low numbers. I'm sorry, but we royally f'ed up with Broden. We rarely went downfield to him and teams rarely had to defend against the threat of us trying to utilize him. This was a travesty. Would starting Broden all 13 games and getting him 8-10 catches a game have kept him at BG? Who knows. But one thing is for sure, the way we utilized him - or better said - not utilized him like we did - I can guarantee we helped facilitated him leaving BG because of it. Whether we had a chance to keep him at BG or not, we botched the hell out of what he could have been or done for BG this season. That much is for sure.

He left because he didn’t get the ball enough. Period. Anderson left because they were tired of the losing/s**t show. Period.

[jpfalcon09]

Grant to Purdue is official.

[Globetrotter]

Broden Arkansas
Anderson UCLA
Grant Purdue?
JB Brown Kansas
Davon Ferguson Ga Southern

If the staff isn't out there touting their ability to develop talent and get them to NIL deals in the P5 they still don't understand this landscape.

Losing the players sucks, but we'll never keep kids getting calls from places like Arkansas and UCLA. Use that to your advantage on the recruiting trail.

I don't necessarily disagree with your point on some of these guys, but something also needs to be mentioned about these losses in addition to simply losing guys to P5 schools. First off, not all G5 schools are simply rolling over and watching P5 teams steal away their players, or having their guys walk away in droves to P5 schools. There are a couple MAC schools who not only retain most of their star players, but actually keep their star players (as in the guys want to stay). Secondly, Anderson and Grant were full-time starters for BG. There's really nothing more we could have done to keep either if their decision was simply to leave BG. While Brown wasn't listed as a starter, he played and produced like one. In fact he outplayed some of the guys who actually did start in front of him. Did that play into his decision to leave? Maybe, maybe not. Ferguson isn't going to a P5 program, but he's a P5-caliber guy. Unfortunately he never made it through a season for BG and played in just 2 games this year. We missed out on a lot of playmaking from him and he showed us in the Minnesota game last year how big some of his plays could be. All that said, the real glaring elephant in the room is with Broden. I'm sorry, but there's no way anyone can convince me that we utilized him properly or up to his ability. He only started 7 games this year but did play in all 13 games. But here's the real crime - he only averaged 2.5 receptions per game for BG for 38.9 ypg. Guys, he averaged 15.8 ypr. That's a first down and a half per catch for a team that dinks and dunks. He is 6-7, has a massive wingspan and catch radius, and great speed to go along with it...and he averaged less than 2.5 receptions per game - for the season! That is a crime. And no, BG wasn't a strong running team either, which could play into having low numbers. I'm sorry, but we royally f'ed up with Broden. We rarely went downfield to him and teams rarely had to defend against the threat of us trying to utilize him. This was a travesty. Would starting Broden all 13 games and getting him 8-10 catches a game have kept him at BG? Who knows. But one thing is for sure, the way we utilized him - or better said - not utilized him like we did - I can guarantee we helped facilitated him leaving BG because of it. Whether we had a chance to keep him at BG or not, we botched the hell out of what he could have been or done for BG this season. That much is for sure.

He left because he didn’t get the ball enough. Period. Anderson left because they were tired of the losing/s**t show. Period.

Im sure moving to LA after graduating, playing in the PAC 10, making money while you do it had nothing to do with it.

[roguewarrior]

Broden Arkansas
Anderson UCLA
Grant Purdue?
JB Brown Kansas
Davon Ferguson Ga Southern

If the staff isn't out there touting their ability to develop talent and get them to NIL deals in the P5 they still don't understand this landscape.

Losing the players sucks, but we'll never keep kids getting calls from places like Arkansas and UCLA. Use that to your advantage on the recruiting trail.

I don't necessarily disagree with your point on some of these guys, but something also needs to be mentioned about these losses in addition to simply losing guys to P5 schools. First off, not all G5 schools are simply rolling over and watching P5 teams steal away their players, or having their guys walk away in droves to P5 schools. There are a couple MAC schools who not only retain most of their star players, but actually keep their star players (as in the guys want to stay). Secondly, Anderson and Grant were full-time starters for BG. There's really nothing more we could have done to keep either if their decision was simply to leave BG. While Brown wasn't listed as a starter, he played and produced like one. In fact he outplayed some of the guys who actually did start in front of him. Did that play into his decision to leave? Maybe, maybe not. Ferguson isn't going to a P5 program, but he's a P5-caliber guy. Unfortunately he never made it through a season for BG and played in just 2 games this year. We missed out on a lot of playmaking from him and he showed us in the Minnesota game last year how big some of his plays could be. All that said, the real glaring elephant in the room is with Broden. I'm sorry, but there's no way anyone can convince me that we utilized him properly or up to his ability. He only started 7 games this year but did play in all 13 games. But here's the real crime - he only averaged 2.5 receptions per game for BG for 38.9 ypg. Guys, he averaged 15.8 ypr. That's a first down and a half per catch for a team that dinks and dunks. He is 6-7, has a massive wingspan and catch radius, and great speed to go along with it...and he averaged less than 2.5 receptions per game - for the season! That is a crime. And no, BG wasn't a strong running team either, which could play into having low numbers. I'm sorry, but we royally f'ed up with Broden. We rarely went downfield to him and teams rarely had to defend against the threat of us trying to utilize him. This was a travesty. Would starting Broden all 13 games and getting him 8-10 catches a game have kept him at BG? Who knows. But one thing is for sure, the way we utilized him - or better said - not utilized him like we did - I can guarantee we helped facilitated him leaving BG because of it. Whether we had a chance to keep him at BG or not, we botched the hell out of what he could have been or done for BG this season. That much is for sure.

He left because he didn’t get the ball enough. Period. Anderson left because they were tired of the losing/s**t show. Period.

Im sure moving to LA after graduating, playing in the PAC 10, making money while you do it had nothing to do with it.

That is the fruit of leaving. He didn’t know where he would land. I talked to them most every game for 4 years, I didn’t read it in the blade.

[Flipper]

Last I looked, we had almost as many guys bailing as Kent State...a team that lost its coach. Other MAC programs like Miami, OU and UT didn't lose nearly as many guys. That gives them a huge leg up on us going in to 2023.

We had an NFL quality DL in Brooks and a bunch of guys on D exit for P5 schools...why were we so bad defensively?

As33 and rogue pointed out...why in the he'll didn't we make an athletic freak like Broden the focal point of our offense?

I hope our AD is at least considering these issues before handing Loeffler an extension

[roguewarrior]

“We had an NFL quality DL in Brooks and a bunch of guys on D exit for P5 schools...why were we so bad defensively? “

I submit it mostly because of our offense. Most teams took over the ball close to midfield. Add in SL going for it and losing on 4th down too many time to count. Because of that field position deficit…. I can recall at least 3 times in the era, where the opposing team didn’t punt once. Hard for any team to defend half a field all game.

[guest44]

Plus the defensive coordinator left. If Loeffler’s past history is any indicator, someone from his past is coming out of retirement or near retirement for a paycheck.

[mbenecke]

“We had an NFL quality DL in Brooks and a bunch of guys on D exit for P5 schools...why were we so bad defensively? “

I submit it mostly because of our offense. Most teams took over the ball close to midfield. Add in SL going for it and losing on 4th down too many time to count. Because of that field position deficit…. I can recall at least 3 times in the era, where the opposing team didn’t punt once. Hard for any team to defend half a field all game.

I think this is a very real point, and I find it interesting. Loeffler said when he came here that we wanted to be a run-first team that controls the clock, wins the field position battle, and wins up front on both sides of the ball. So far, that’s the opposite of our identity in every way except the scheme calling plays as though we can be that.

I really hope we’re going to figure out a way to do those things, because I want to see this program succeed, but that’s not our identity at all right now.

[Flipper]

The poor offensive line play has really hamstrung the team. You have guys coming and going with P5 pedigrees...how has this unit been such an abject failure for so long?