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BGGrad01 wrote: Basically, I think the national title game will end up being OSU vs. Michigan (if they're both still unbeaten).
I hope you're talking about the regular season game metaphorically because there is no possibility of the two of them playing in the national championship both unbeaten.

Nice thought though.
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I want to see the UF-OSU national championship, although I agree that Florida going undefeated is a longshot with that schedule. OSU has played their toughest tests before UM, and they should be able to pretty much coast into "THE GAME".

Florida seems to have week after week of tough matchups remaining.

Still I want to see Florida -vs- OSU, because I think those are the two best coaches in college football and it would make for one helluva matchup.
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If Michigan can win at Penn State and home against Iowa, they can also coast into the game with 3 cakewalks.

And I think it's pretty early to declare the winner of the game, assuming they're both undefeated, nat'l champs. There's still USC and W Va that could very conceivably beat OSU or Mich in the nat'l title game.

Lot of football left to be played. But yeah, no chance in hell Florida goes undefeated. Auburn is pissed right now. I wouldn't want to be Florida heading up there this weekend. Get ready for OSU - MICH to be 1-2 in both polls before long.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:There's still USC and W Va that could very conceivably beat OSU or Mich in the nat'l title game.
USC is skating by on some pretty thin ice. They thumped Nebraska, but they've had a couple games (Washington this week and another that's slipping my mind right now) that were alot closer than they probably should have been. I think they're either a case of the '02 Ohio State team that found ways to pull games out, or a team that's buying time before at least one loss. Lucky for them, they get ND at home, but they've got plenty of landmines in the Pac-10 to worry about first.
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TG1996 wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:There's still USC and W Va that could very conceivably beat OSU or Mich in the nat'l title game.
USC is skating by on some pretty thin ice. They thumped Nebraska, but they've had a couple games (Washington this week and another that's slipping my mind right now) that were alot closer than they probably should have been. I think they're either a case of the '02 Ohio State team that found ways to pull games out, or a team that's buying time before at least one loss. Lucky for them, they get ND at home, but they've got plenty of landmines in the Pac-10 to worry about first.

I'm saying talent-wise. It's not like OSU and Mich are worlds ahead of everybody else right now. Most folks around this area seem to want to already crown the winner of that game the national champs. I'm saying there's 5 or 6 teams out there that are as good as Mich and close to OSU.

I haven't been impressed with USC either, but the PAC-10 is still weak, and USC has the talent to bust out at any moment when Jarrett comes back.
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Oh, I agree pretty much completely. (don't quote me on that! :wink: )

I was just looking at on-field production, and USC is not the USC of old. I think maybe their image this year is the product of past success, considering they're one of the top 4 or 5 teams in the nation right now after all that turnover, but they're kind of forgotten in the OSU/Mich/Florida/and until this Saturday Auburn mix.
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Mr. Frieda wrote:
BGGrad01 wrote: Basically, I think the national title game will end up being OSU vs. Michigan (if they're both still unbeaten).
I hope you're talking about the regular season game metaphorically because there is no possibility of the two of them playing in the national championship both unbeaten.

Nice thought though.
NOT TO mention that there is not a possibility of a OSU UM rematch for the national title

One of them has to lose on Nov 18th. If everyone else has 1 loss besides UM and OSU going into "the game" Then, with a loss that late in the season (final game for OSU and UM) then the team who loses will drop in both coaches and AP poll and whoever was #3 would move into #2 and I would imagine however the hell the BCS formulas work now (they change every friggin year) the same would happen

It is NOT possible for OSU and UM to play twice this year or will they ever play twice unless for some reason they are both BCS bowl teams and one is not in the national title game and some bowl pick the big ten winner and the other as the at-large (which would be retarded because the point is to have matchups you wouldnt not normally see in a regular season.)
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
TG1996 wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:There's still USC and W Va that could very conceivably beat OSU or Mich in the nat'l title game.
USC is skating by on some pretty thin ice. They thumped Nebraska, but they've had a couple games (Washington this week and another that's slipping my mind right now) that were alot closer than they probably should have been. I think they're either a case of the '02 Ohio State team that found ways to pull games out, or a team that's buying time before at least one loss. Lucky for them, they get ND at home, but they've got plenty of landmines in the Pac-10 to worry about first.

I'm saying talent-wise. It's not like OSU and Mich are worlds ahead of everybody else right now. Most folks around this area seem to want to already crown the winner of that game the national champs. I'm saying there's 5 or 6 teams out there that are as good as Mich and close to OSU.

I haven't been impressed with USC either, but the PAC-10 is still weak, and USC has the talent to bust out at any moment when Jarrett comes back.
I wouldnt crown the winner of OSU UM the champs right away either but you have to admit that if OSU or UM is not playing Florida then is pretty largely favors OSU or UM in my opinion.

but thats why games are played on tv screens and not in human minds
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Sorry for the lack of clarity in my original post. I meant that the winner of the OSU/U of M game would probably be the National Title favorite. I didn't mean that those two teams would be playing in the BCS Championship game.
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why is nobody talking about west virginia. ill admit, last year i thought they were overrated until they man handled georgia in the sugar bowl last year. so far they've man handled everyone else and i think it was an injustice to them that michigan moved ahead of them in the polls. I think michigan is a great team but didn't deserve to move ahead of west virginia. however, florida did deserve to jump to number 2. If anything, usc shoulda been bumped instead of west virginia.
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moneymaker02 wrote:why is nobody talking about west virginia. ill admit, last year i thought they were overrated until they man handled georgia in the sugar bowl last year. so far they've man handled everyone else and i think it was an injustice to them that michigan moved ahead of them in the polls. I think michigan is a great team but didn't deserve to move ahead of west virginia. however, florida did deserve to jump to number 2. If anything, usc shoulda been bumped instead of west virginia.
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becauae west virginia hasnt played anybody and georgia was over rated last year.


after west virginia plays and IF they beat louisville and rutgers then they may deserve a little talk but louisville and rutgers does not compare to the level of competition Florida, Michigan and OSU has faced all year.

Florida is beginning their gauntlet, OSU has survived theirs and Michigan survied their first one (Notre Dame, MSU) and is about to hit their second one (Iowa and PSU @ happy valley 8:pm)

Wva has played talent levels comparible to bottom feeding CUSA or MAC teams.
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tekekini wrote:
Mr. Frieda wrote:
BGGrad01 wrote: Basically, I think the national title game will end up being OSU vs. Michigan (if they're both still unbeaten).
I hope you're talking about the regular season game metaphorically because there is no possibility of the two of them playing in the national championship both unbeaten.

Nice thought though.
NOT TO mention that there is not a possibility of a OSU UM rematch for the national title
I will disagree and say that it is entirely possible. The SEC is gonna cannibilize itself and no team comes out of there with less than two losses. WVU and Loiusville play each other guaranteeing that one will lose. And let's just say that the winner stubs their toe somewhere else along the way. Missiouri isn't goning undefeated, nor is Rutgers. So that leaves USC, OSU, and MI as your only undefeateds late in November. And the only credible one loss team is Texas.

Let's say that OSU beats Michigan in a close, tight game that could go either way. And ND beats USC that weekend as well. So now OSU is left undefeated and in the champioship game. And your one loss teams are Texas (which OSU beat on the road already, so why a rematch now?), Michigan (which lost to OSU in a great game on the road), ND (who Michigan smoked so how can you pick them ahead of MI), and USC (who just lost to the team that lost to the team that is undefeated).

Given those choices, I think the voters could put MI #2. And the computers certainly wouldn't ding MI for losing to # 1. Anything is possible with the goofy BCS, so in no way would I discount the possibility of OSU and Michigan playing for the national title.
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moneymaker02 wrote:why is nobody talking about west virginia. ill admit, last year i thought they were overrated until they man handled georgia in the sugar bowl last year. so far they've man handled everyone else and i think it was an injustice to them that michigan moved ahead of them in the polls. I think michigan is a great team but didn't deserve to move ahead of west virginia. however, florida did deserve to jump to number 2. If anything, usc shoulda been bumped instead of west virginia.
Michigan has beaten ND. Who has WVU beaten? Even USC has played a tougher sked than WVU. As long as the Big East is the worst BcS conference, WVU will continue to get little respect.

A real injustice would be to leave teams in the order of meaningless preseason rankings instead of taking into account how good you actually think the teams are. W. Va. looked pretty bad against ECU, and was in a dogifght on Saturday until the pulled away with a couple late scores. Michigan has been dominant start to finish this year, and has improved steadily.

WVU fans shouldn't worry. If they are undefeated, they will be in the title game. They'll probably have to beat Louisville twice to get there, but anything's possible.
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I'd love to see Florida vs Ohio State for the Nationa Title. Right now, UM and UF are the only teams, imo, that can match OSU. USC doesn't impress me like past years and WVU couldn't beat any of the above teams.
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