Game Thread

svillefalcon · Post by **svillefalcon** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:04 am

This is hard to say after us expecting so much outts him, but i feel that Macon is a waste of a scholly.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:08 am

svillefalcon wrote:This is hard to say after us expecting so much outts him, but i feel that Macon is a waste of a scholly.

I think that statement might be a case of getting spoiled when having Pope and Lane as 1 & 2 in the backfield. There really was not that drastic of a drop off between Lane and Pope and when both were healthy Lane was a great RB to come in and spell Pope for a series. We just can't say the same now.

As for your statement...
Call for the coaches heads, say the play calling was bad, say the guy doesn't see holes well, but please don't say something like that. Seems really out of line if you ask me.

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 am

Dayons_Den wrote:As for your statement...
Call for the coaches heads, say the play calling was bad, say the guy doesn't see holes well, but please don't say something like that. Seems really out of line if you ask me.

Could not agree more. These guys are getting a free education, but they're giving up a lot of time and effort to play football for the University and represent us nationally. Guys like Lanning are risking potentially long-term health issues to represent us. These are 17 to 22 year old kids doing the very best they can to win football games. I feel bad for them if they read some of this stuff.

Falcon52 · Post by **Falcon52** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:30 am

Bad statement on the scolly thing. Can he play another position? Maybe he just needs to grow a little more.

With regards to a QB. We went from having a guy who could throw anywhere on the field to one that couldn't hit the Sebo Center from the 1 yard line. Last night I wish we had a pure passer. I watched on TV and AT's passes were painful to watch. Can he be fixed? Can this coaching staff improve him as a passer? We should hire an expert QB coach. We need one.

By the way my 7 year old was picking out open receivers faster than AT. No joke!

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:44 am

hammb wrote:We got out coached around pretty much every corner in the 2nd half.

hammb, Can you remember any game when we couldn't say that?

What makes it even worse is that Brandon said after the game that the locker room atmosphere at halftime was the best since he has been here. That tells me the players were pumped and had the confidence they needed to go out and win this game. Then the coach punts from the 32 and tells the players he has no confidence in them.

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:45 am

I echo many of the sentiments already expressed.

Positives:

-Defense fought valiantly under pressure all night from a great CMU offense and our inept offense. There's young talent and speed everywhere.

-Rojas will be an All-MAC punter sooner rather than later.

-Bullock is the real deal when he's on the field.

-Brantley is stepping up big-time.

-Pretty good pass protection from the O-Line.

-Getting Freddie Barnes the ball in any way is a good idea.

Negatives:

-QB couldn't run or hit the broad side of a barn.

-Receivers, by in large, don't get separation and can't catch.

-Inexplicable play-calling (went away from the option, the only consistent play) and offensive coaching decisions, a consistent theme this year.

-A couple big plays allowed and special teams miscues continued and were the back-breaker yet again.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:03 am

hammb wrote:Yawn...

The sad thing is, I go into these games expecting this lately.

Turner was terrible and has been terrible ever since the spring game of '05, with one bright spot in OT against Buffalo. The kid does not see his reads, he doesn't deliver the ball on time, he doesn't throw it accurately...he just flat out doesn't make plays. This offense NEEDS at least competent QB play, we're not getting it.

Bullock was held out for discipline, which is fine by me, but my god does Macon suck...if Bullock's ready to go there should be no reason for Macon to get more than 2-3 touches a game.

We don't really tackle well.

We got out coached around pretty much every corner in the 2nd half. Who the F&#* Punts from the 32 yard line? How the hell do you even justify that. It's tantamount to taking the win in the NFL OT. Seriously one of the absolute WORST coaching decisions I've ever seen.

We weren't ready to play again. What? Not ready to play? A big conference road game on national TV? No way, never woulda seen that coming

This coaching staff is a joke. They pulled the wool over eyes with a couple decent performances against OU & OSU, but the fact remains that they really seem clueless in how to prepare a team, make adjustments, and call a game. At this point about the ONLY thing I can really see as a strong point is recruiting, and if you cannot develop the talent you recruit that doesn't mean much either.

Perhaps a new coach could develop this talent.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:04 am

Warthog wrote:
hammb wrote:We got out coached around pretty much every corner in the 2nd half.
hammb, Can you remember any game when we couldn't say that?

What makes it even worse is that Brandon said after the game that the locker room atmosphere at halftime was the best since he has been here. That tells me the players were pumped and had the confidence they needed to go out and win this game. Then the coach punts from the 32 and tells the players he has no confidence in them.

No, I really cannot think of any games where we outcoached the opposition in the second half.

All I know is I consider myself a pretty die hard fan, but even I'm sick & tired of watching this coaching staff. I've got a real bad feeling about the attendance for the next coming seasons.

Those games in Blackney's last years sitting out there with 4000-5000 people are starting to seem closer and closer. I've gotten a lot of people interested in BG football the past few years. My parents and their friends, some of my friends. We've all gone to a good number of games, and I know that a lot of them will start to lose interest as this program slips back into the blackhole that Blackney put 'em in.

With the new NCAA attendance crap they're trying to do, how will we ever claw back out of that hole? I don't know, but the future of BG football doesn't look too bright about now, and who should be surprised...look at the leadership...

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:20 am

The bottom line for me is your not going to beat anyone on the road with 14 points. Especially with 0 points in the 2nd half. Brandon should be completely beside himself with this offense. To have the ball for 37 minutes, to run 72 plays, to have the defense create 2 turnovers for you, and to come up with only 14points (and need two 4th down conversions to get them) might be the worst overall offensive performance I have seen under his coaching!

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:31 am

From being at the game last night, it was very good to see a large falcon contingent there. I really didn't expect many to make the trip on a Thursday night, but aside from the CMU band, it was all BGSU colors on the one side of the field. That was cool.

It seems one problem with Mid-American Conference football is that the students of both teams seem to be the only ones in the stadium who have a clue what is going on. They are the only ones who even make noise at the games, road and home. I remember trying to get our fans to make some noise before the 3rd downs on defense, and nobody would. It was the same way on the opposite side of the field, the non-student CMU fans were completely silent. You could here a pin drop on that side of Kelly Shorts.

As for the game itself, I'm not going to say much other than we fought hard to come back from an early deficit, and could have seized the game in the third quarter but came up short. The bottom line is we got beat by a better team Thursday night, whether you'd all like to admit it or not, CMU is 5-0 in conference and is headed to the MAC Championship Game. All this talk of "we should have won this one" is fine, but once again, I can't stand everybody getting on Gregg Brandon and the coaches. I swear, we lose one damn game and everybody is back in GB's face. There were a few calls I didn't agree with last night, some of which paid off (4th & 8 at the CMU 25, led to a touchdown) and others that didn't (punting from the CMU 32 into the end zone).

How Gregg Brandon takes more crap on here then Dan Dakich, I don't understand. We're 4-4, its not like we're sucking it up week after week like Miami or Toledo. All the hard games on our schedule have been played (Wisc, OSU, Kent, Ohio, CMU), and it should be a good finish. With all the youth and inconsistency on this roster this year, if we somehow manage to go 6-2 in conference with our only losses to teams that are (thus far) unbeaten in conference play, that would be a very successful season in my mind.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:46 am

3 of our 4 wins are against bottom 10 teams. We looked much better against Ohio and OSU, and now we're back where we were. The team is looking better, but is still being held back by coaching. We'll see where we're at in a month. Losing to Toledo this year would be embarassing as hell. Guess what? It's going to happen. You think people are criticizing Brandon too much now? Get back to me after that game.

Also, we get it that you think Dakich should have been criticized more. One situation has nothing to do with the other.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:54 am

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:3 of our 4 wins are against bottom 10 teams. We looked much better against Ohio and OSU, and now we're back where we were. The team is looking better, but is still being held back by coaching. We'll see where we're at in a month. Losing to Toledo this year would be embarassing as hell. Guess what? It's going to happen. You think people are criticizing Brandon too much now? Get back to me after that game.

Also, we get it that you think Dakich should have been criticized more. One situation has nothing to do with the other.

What in hells name would make you think we're going to lose to Toledo. They've been absolutely weedwacked in their last 4 games, 3 of them in conference, and they look inconsistent at best in virtually all phases of the game. Plus, the game is a road game, which I think even you can agree works to our advantage given our recent play on the road and at home.

Nothing to me would seem to indicate Toledo is capable of beating us.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:57 am

How Gregg Brandon takes more crap on here then Dan Dakich, I don't understand.

Because people still care about the football program. Anger turned into indifference a long time ago with the basketball team (that seems worse to me).

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:07 pm

As San Diego eluded to, the Basketball program has already reached rock bottom. We have a lame duck coach who we know is going to be here for one more season and then be gone (at least I'd be VERY shocked if that were not the case). Conversely, we see the football program moving in the wrong direction, and we would rather see that movement stopped before it ends up where it was 6 years ago (where the basketball program already is).

As for the UT game. You wanna know how I say we lose that game? It's a tough conference game, on the road, on a weekday. We almost always lose those games. We have never beaten UT on the road since I've been a BG fan...NEVER. If we beat UT, I'll be shocked, I don't care how bad they are.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:13 pm

hammb wrote:As San Diego eluded to, the Basketball program has already reached rock bottom. We have a lame duck coach who we know is going to be here for one more season and then be gone (at least I'd be VERY shocked if that were not the case). Conversely, we see the football program moving in the wrong direction, and we would rather see that movement stopped before it ends up where it was 6 years ago (where the basketball program already is).

As for the UT game. You wanna know how I say we lose that game? It's a tough conference game, on the road, on a weekday. We almost always lose those games. We have never beaten UT on the road since I've been a BG fan...NEVER. If we beat UT, I'll be shocked, I don't care how bad they are.

Hammb, I guess where you and Jacobs, and myself differ in opinion is this idea that the program is moving in the wrong direction. I don't even believe this to be true. With so many freshmen/sophomores playing this year, if we had a down year this year, big whoop. We're 4-4, and will probably go 6-6 at worst and 8-4 at best. That's not half bad. Plus, we continue to recruit competitively, which is the number one most important thing about running a college football program. If you don't have the athletes, coaching really doesn't mean jack because you'll be getting beat anyway because other teams have more talent than you.

We just lost to probably the best team in the MAC on their home field in a hard fought battle that we could have won. And this program is moving in the wrong direction? I was in the stadium last night, and I have to wonder if you guys were watching the same game I was.