Only if you want to measure it solely through wins and bowl games.Flipper wrote:Brandon accomplished more here in two years than Meyer...that's a fact
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I usually try to stay out of these types of conversation. But Brandon has been my son's coach for 4 years now and Corey will end is career under Gregg.
Gregg Brandon may not be the best or one of the elite coaches in college football. He struggles at times, but after watching this team for the past 4 years I can say that Gregg Brandon is learning and making adjustments. He has become a better coach over the years and he is better now then when Corey first came here.
Yeah, he makes mistakes and sometimes things happen on the field that stream roll on him and he doesn't make the right adjustments, but that happens to all of us in life.
One thing I can say about Coach Brandon is that he bleeds orange. He made a commitment to me and my son, that he would be here for Corey's whole career. Guess what, he honored that. How many player's parents can say that about Urban Meyer? This was a stepping stone for Urban, he didn't really want to be here and he jumped off at the first opportunity. Gregg Brandon wants to be the Falcon's head coach. He loves this university. He is always looking to improve and it hurts him much more then you guys realize when things like the GMAC Bowl Game happens.
I think Coach Brandon is doing a great job recruiting. He has brought in some great talent. Some of them, he has not gotten out of them what was expected and some have exceed expectations. Its not all the head coach either when this happens.
He has only had one losing season and he is 2-1 in Bowl games. He just went 8-5 and went to a bowl game. They beat a Big ten team, even if it was Minnesota. And I know some people will say my ego is getting the best of me, but if Corey is healthy for the Michigan State game, we may have seen a big win for this team, it certainly would have been a nail biter down to the end. They played a great game that day. I also think Tyler's shoulder was a bigger factor then we realize in the Boston College game, but BC was a great team this year. Another example of how things can stream roll on you and there's nothing you can do about it. Tyler was also suffering from shell shock and lacked confidence when we rolled into Miami, gee he's only a 19-20 year old kid. I have seen the premier coaches in college football go thru these same things. Anyone remember Florida beating up on Ohio State in the national championship game. It happens to the best of coaches and players. Some times there is no adjustment to be made, it just keeps happening no matter what you do.
He is in the bottom of the MAC in terms of salary and yet he still wants to be here.
There are a lot of factors that play into a great season or a great game and those same factors can turn that game into a debacle like the GMAC Bowl. Yes, I have disagreed with some of the things Coach Brandon has done over the past 4 years. But he has also done a lot of things right too. I will continue to support him even if I disagree with him from time to time. Heck I disagree with my wife a lot but I continue to give her a 1-2 year extensions when her contract is up...
Coach Brandon is a bargain for what we are paying him. Give him a 1-2 year extension. Then let him go out and earn more years with performance, I know he will work his butt off to stay here. Next year will really tell us a lot about him and this team. These are his players and its up to him. We could have a great season. I am excited about next year. All the pieces are in place. Now lets mix in a little luck and some great fan support and the sky is the limit.
Could we do better with a different coach? Maybe....
Could we do worst? Oh Yeah, better odds of this than the former....
Just my opinion, take or leave it.
Gregg Brandon may not be the best or one of the elite coaches in college football. He struggles at times, but after watching this team for the past 4 years I can say that Gregg Brandon is learning and making adjustments. He has become a better coach over the years and he is better now then when Corey first came here.
Yeah, he makes mistakes and sometimes things happen on the field that stream roll on him and he doesn't make the right adjustments, but that happens to all of us in life.
One thing I can say about Coach Brandon is that he bleeds orange. He made a commitment to me and my son, that he would be here for Corey's whole career. Guess what, he honored that. How many player's parents can say that about Urban Meyer? This was a stepping stone for Urban, he didn't really want to be here and he jumped off at the first opportunity. Gregg Brandon wants to be the Falcon's head coach. He loves this university. He is always looking to improve and it hurts him much more then you guys realize when things like the GMAC Bowl Game happens.
I think Coach Brandon is doing a great job recruiting. He has brought in some great talent. Some of them, he has not gotten out of them what was expected and some have exceed expectations. Its not all the head coach either when this happens.
He has only had one losing season and he is 2-1 in Bowl games. He just went 8-5 and went to a bowl game. They beat a Big ten team, even if it was Minnesota. And I know some people will say my ego is getting the best of me, but if Corey is healthy for the Michigan State game, we may have seen a big win for this team, it certainly would have been a nail biter down to the end. They played a great game that day. I also think Tyler's shoulder was a bigger factor then we realize in the Boston College game, but BC was a great team this year. Another example of how things can stream roll on you and there's nothing you can do about it. Tyler was also suffering from shell shock and lacked confidence when we rolled into Miami, gee he's only a 19-20 year old kid. I have seen the premier coaches in college football go thru these same things. Anyone remember Florida beating up on Ohio State in the national championship game. It happens to the best of coaches and players. Some times there is no adjustment to be made, it just keeps happening no matter what you do.
He is in the bottom of the MAC in terms of salary and yet he still wants to be here.
There are a lot of factors that play into a great season or a great game and those same factors can turn that game into a debacle like the GMAC Bowl. Yes, I have disagreed with some of the things Coach Brandon has done over the past 4 years. But he has also done a lot of things right too. I will continue to support him even if I disagree with him from time to time. Heck I disagree with my wife a lot but I continue to give her a 1-2 year extensions when her contract is up...
Coach Brandon is a bargain for what we are paying him. Give him a 1-2 year extension. Then let him go out and earn more years with performance, I know he will work his butt off to stay here. Next year will really tell us a lot about him and this team. These are his players and its up to him. We could have a great season. I am excited about next year. All the pieces are in place. Now lets mix in a little luck and some great fan support and the sky is the limit.
Could we do better with a different coach? Maybe....
Could we do worst? Oh Yeah, better odds of this than the former....
Just my opinion, take or leave it.

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If you measure a college coach solely on wins and losses then there is absolutely no arguing with you. Their are far too many circumstances that surround these situations for pure wins & losses to be the measuring stick. When Urban got here it wasn't about winning it was turning around the attitude to create an atmosphere where winning could occur. He had to run off a large portion of our roster just to field a group that wanted to put forth the work to be a D1A team. Brandon inherited a group poised to make championship runs, and he did win more than Urban, but that is not due to him being a better coach it is merely him inheriting a much better situation. You don't want to talk hypotheticals so I guess I won't make them. I'll just point out that Warthog, myself, every AD in the country, and every sportscaster in the country feel that Urban Meyer is a far superior coach to Gregg Brandon. You, OTOH, want to keep propping up Brandon as being better at BG simply because he won more games. Whatever, it's your deluded world, but to even insinuate that Brandon is close to Meyer's level is ludicrous. Brandon may have won more in his time here, but he sure as hell hasn't done as good of a job as Urban did; if he had he would no longer be here.Flipper wrote:Wow...what a concept, measuring coaches on wins and bowl games...It's pure genius!!! Throw in national rankings too as Brandon FINISHED the year ranked in the top 25 his first season and top 30 his second.
Gregg Brandon is a great guy. He works his butt off, and appears to be happy at BG. For that reason many people seem to be in love with him. That's fine, I suppose. I have no attachment to him or any other coach, I just want results. I don't attach any bonus points for being happy at BG, because I'd be quite happy searching for a new coach every 2 years...it means we're WINNING. In fact, if a coach is actually happy here I don't want anything to do with him. I love BG, but we're small potatoes in the scale of 1A football, and I want somebody leading my team that has the drive to be the best.
It would be tough to find a better coach at our current salary scale. If we are willing to up our salary by 2 or 3 times (which I think is plausible) I think we can do far better than Gregg Brandon. This is not the guy to lead our team to where I want to see them go. Obviously there are a lot of people here who are quite happy with a lesser coach who loves BG...I'm a win at all costs person, myself.
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Look...I'm simply trying to keep the arguemnt framed on fair ground. There seems to be this idealized view re the shape the team was in when Meyer left and that view is often used to unfairly diminsh the success Gregg Brandon has enjoyed here. I don't give a rat's ass what Urban Meyer did after he left here. I don't care how you, NCAA AD's, warthog or anyone else feel about him...he's not here now, so his job performance from 2003 forward isn't really relevant to my opinion of BGSU sports.
For seemingly the 1millionth time...I don't think Gregg Brandon is perfect. I think on balance he's done a good job here. spart and freak are correct, this year's team wil say a lot about where he is as a coach. The talent is there to be an elite team in the conference...Coach Brandon was able to take that 2002 team that was close to that level and get them there, can he do it in 2008 with his "own" guys...we'll see
For seemingly the 1millionth time...I don't think Gregg Brandon is perfect. I think on balance he's done a good job here. spart and freak are correct, this year's team wil say a lot about where he is as a coach. The talent is there to be an elite team in the conference...Coach Brandon was able to take that 2002 team that was close to that level and get them there, can he do it in 2008 with his "own" guys...we'll see
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Thanks for your incite, it is much appreciated.
I agree that the pieces are in place for 2008 to be a special season. But what if it is not? At some point a decision has to be made if Brandon can take us to the next level. He has won zero MAC titles. That is important to my judgement of a coach. Do we want to be like Toledo with Stan Joplin? Guy wins enough to keep his job, but not enough for anyone else to want him?
I hate to say it is a "Win or Get Fired" situation, but at some point you are going to have to make that decision. Can we be an elite program as it is currently being led or do we need to go in a different direction?
Thanks for your incite, it is much appreciated.
I agree that the pieces are in place for 2008 to be a special season. But what if it is not? At some point a decision has to be made if Brandon can take us to the next level. He has won zero MAC titles. That is important to my judgement of a coach. Do we want to be like Toledo with Stan Joplin? Guy wins enough to keep his job, but not enough for anyone else to want him?
I hate to say it is a "Win or Get Fired" situation, but at some point you are going to have to make that decision. Can we be an elite program as it is currently being led or do we need to go in a different direction?
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Flipper wrote:Look...I'm simply trying to keep the arguemnt framed on fair ground. There seems to be this idealized view re the shape the team was in when Meyer left and that view is often used to unfairly diminsh the success Gregg Brandon has enjoyed here. I don't give a rat's ass what Urban Meyer did after he left here. I don't care how you, NCAA AD's, warthog or anyone else feel about him...he's not here now, so his job performance from 2003 forward isn't really relevant to my opinion of BGSU sports.
For seemingly the 1millionth time...I don't think Gregg Brandon is perfect. I think on balance he's done a good job here. spart and freak are correct, this year's team wil say a lot about where he is as a coach. The talent is there to be an elite team in the conference...Coach Brandon was able to take that 2002 team that was close to that level and get them there, can he do it in 2008 with his "own" guys...we'll see
Despite my ramblings on this thread, I think I've been pretty consistent that I'm happy giving Brandon the 2008 season to see what he can do with his guys, and a group that I feel is talented enough to be an upper echelon MAC team. We've also got winnable, but statement level OOC games against Boise & Pitt.
I thought Brandon did a much better job in '07 than in any of his previous years, but I'm still discouraged by the total falling apart games. And I'm not talking about BC, don't really care about that one, but Miami(OH) has happened in the past and it still scares the crap out of me. The bowl game was equally discouraging.
Still, I'm quite happy with a small extension and '08 to prove himself. However, I'm also quite comfortable looking for a new coach after '08 if next year fails to meet expectations. The last time I had this level of expectations for our team it was a VERY disappointing season in '05. I'm hopeful that our staff has learned some things in the 3 years and we don't see that again.
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I actually very vehemently disagree with that philosophy when it comes to BG coaches. I do want talented and quality coaches that want to be here. I'm sick of the coaching carousel that is in Mac football programs. Its why the Mac never gets off the ground to be high-end "mid-major" conference because we can't keep our coaches when they do become successful. Any time a Mac school starts to get real good the coach leaves stunting the growth of that program. Although I agree with just about you've said Hammb on this subject , I can't couldn't disagree more on this point.hammb wrote: I don't attach any bonus points for being happy at BG, because I'd be quite happy searching for a new coach every 2 years...it means we're WINNING. In fact, if a coach is actually happy here I don't want anything to do with him. I love BG, but we're small potatoes in the scale of 1A football, and I want somebody leading my team that has the drive to be the best.
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falconboy...your inability to use the quote function correctly has made it appear that I posted soemthing that someone else did. Must you always be a dumbass?
I could fix it since I am a moderator, but I think it's more fun to call you a dumbass....again
I could fix it since I am a moderator, but I think it's more fun to call you a dumbass....again
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BGSU Extends Gregg Brandon's Contract Through 2011
Brandon is 38-24 (27-13 in MAC games) in five seasons at the helm of the Falcon football program.
Feb. 8, 2008
BOWLING GREEN, Ohio -
Bowling Green State University Director of Athletics Greg Christopher announced today that head football coach Gregg Brandon has received a contract extension that will run through the 2011 season.
"Gregg's record is impressive - 27 MAC wins in five years, along with three bowl games, three BCS wins and three divisional titles or co-titles," said Christopher. "Gregg helped build the program and now he has sustained it. We're excited about the future of BGSU football - everything is in place for success: a great group of young men, a first-rate coaching staff, top-notch facilities and tremendous fan support."
Brandon led the Falcons to an 8-5 season, a Mid-American Conference East Division co-Championship and a GMAC Bowl appearance this season. The eight wins were tied for conference honors, while the .615 winning percentage was tops in the conference for 2007. The eight wins were also the most wins since the 2004 team went 9-4.
This past season, despite being picked to finish fifth in the preseason MAC East poll, combined with the addition of five new coaches, the Falcons opened the season with a bang, upsetting Minnesota on the road 32-31 in overtime. It was Brandon's third career win versus the Big Ten.
BGSU roared out to a 3-1 start with wins over Minnesota, Temple and Western Kentucky, before dropping three of their next four contests to fall to 4-4 overall. Brandon and the Falcons finished the regular season with four straight wins (Akron, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo and Toledo), outscoring their opponents 151-79 and earning a bid to the 2008 GMAC Bowl, the Falcons third Bowl appearance in five years under Brandon (2003-Motor City and 2004-GMAC).
In addition, under Brandon the Falcons had eight players earn All-MAC status, seven MAC Player of the Week honors and senior center Kory Lichtensteiger was a finalist for the Rimington Trophy, given to the country's top center.
"I am very appreciative to Greg Christopher for the extension," said Brandon. "It demonstrates a commitment not only to me, but the continued long term success of Bowling Green Football. I definitely believe it is a privilege to be the head coach of the Falcons."
Under Brandon the Falcons are 38-24 overall (.613) and 27-13 (.675) in conference action in five years at the helm of the football program. His 38 overall and 27 MAC wins and .613 win percentage are second-most among active Mid-American Conference coaches. That same win percentage is 15th all-time in the MAC record books, while his 27 conference wins are tied for 19th.
In 2006, BGSU finished first in the MAC in rushing averaging 176.6 yards per game on the ground.
In 2005, BGSU shared the MAC East title and went unbeaten on the road in league play (4-0), including a 42-14 nationally televised win over arch-rival Miami. The Falcons were the top program in the MAC in punt returns (12.97) and finished second in passing (388.8), scoring (35.8) and net punting (35.1) and third in total offense (447.8), pass efficiency (142.4) and turnover margin (.73). The Falcons were ranked 16th in the country in punt returns, 17th in passing, 18th in scoring, 20th in turnover margin, and 21st in pass efficiency.
In 2004, Brandon guided the Falcons to a national ranking in each major poll for the second straight year as they finished 9-3. The Falcons also boasted the most potent offense in MAC history finishing second in the country at 506.3 yards per game and fourth nationally in scoring offense at 44.3 points per game. Both established new league records. In addition, the Falcons finished third in the country in passing (338.3) and turnover margin (+1.25) and fourth in pass efficiency (165.5). In addition, he saw sophomore quarterback Omar Jacobs earn All-American honors and blossom into the national leader in TD passes with 41 and set an NCAA record for touchdown to interception ratio with just four picks all season. For his efforts he was named MAC Offensive Player of the Year.
In 2003, Brandon guided BGSU to a #23 national ranking in the final AP and Coaches Poll (23rd) and a #24 position in the final BCS standings. Last year, he had the top record of any first-time, first-year head coach that season with an 11-3 mark after guiding the Falcons to a MAC West title (7-1) and a win over Northwestern in the Motor City Bowl. In addition, he saw BGSU ranked for a school record eight weeks and make five national television appearances. Also, BGSU finished third in the country in total offense (496.7), ninth in passing offense (300.4), 14th in passing efficiency (147.29), and 20th in scoring (33.6). Defensively, the Falcons were the third highest rated team in the MAC. Senior quarterback Josh Harris and senior cornerback Janssen Patton also earned All-American honors for their stellar individual performances.
After serving as the offensive coordinator under Urban Meyer for two years Brandon became the 16th head coach in the history of the Falcon football program on Dec. 19, 2002.
Brandon Coaching Record
Year Overall MAC
2007 8-5 6-2
2006 4-8 3-5
2005 6-5 5-3
2004 9-3 6-2
2003 11-3 7-1
Overall 38-24 27-13
BGSU Extends Gregg Brandon's Contract Through 2011
Brandon is 38-24 (27-13 in MAC games) in five seasons at the helm of the Falcon football program.
Feb. 8, 2008
BOWLING GREEN, Ohio -
Bowling Green State University Director of Athletics Greg Christopher announced today that head football coach Gregg Brandon has received a contract extension that will run through the 2011 season.
"Gregg's record is impressive - 27 MAC wins in five years, along with three bowl games, three BCS wins and three divisional titles or co-titles," said Christopher. "Gregg helped build the program and now he has sustained it. We're excited about the future of BGSU football - everything is in place for success: a great group of young men, a first-rate coaching staff, top-notch facilities and tremendous fan support."
Brandon led the Falcons to an 8-5 season, a Mid-American Conference East Division co-Championship and a GMAC Bowl appearance this season. The eight wins were tied for conference honors, while the .615 winning percentage was tops in the conference for 2007. The eight wins were also the most wins since the 2004 team went 9-4.
This past season, despite being picked to finish fifth in the preseason MAC East poll, combined with the addition of five new coaches, the Falcons opened the season with a bang, upsetting Minnesota on the road 32-31 in overtime. It was Brandon's third career win versus the Big Ten.
BGSU roared out to a 3-1 start with wins over Minnesota, Temple and Western Kentucky, before dropping three of their next four contests to fall to 4-4 overall. Brandon and the Falcons finished the regular season with four straight wins (Akron, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo and Toledo), outscoring their opponents 151-79 and earning a bid to the 2008 GMAC Bowl, the Falcons third Bowl appearance in five years under Brandon (2003-Motor City and 2004-GMAC).
In addition, under Brandon the Falcons had eight players earn All-MAC status, seven MAC Player of the Week honors and senior center Kory Lichtensteiger was a finalist for the Rimington Trophy, given to the country's top center.
"I am very appreciative to Greg Christopher for the extension," said Brandon. "It demonstrates a commitment not only to me, but the continued long term success of Bowling Green Football. I definitely believe it is a privilege to be the head coach of the Falcons."
Under Brandon the Falcons are 38-24 overall (.613) and 27-13 (.675) in conference action in five years at the helm of the football program. His 38 overall and 27 MAC wins and .613 win percentage are second-most among active Mid-American Conference coaches. That same win percentage is 15th all-time in the MAC record books, while his 27 conference wins are tied for 19th.
In 2006, BGSU finished first in the MAC in rushing averaging 176.6 yards per game on the ground.
In 2005, BGSU shared the MAC East title and went unbeaten on the road in league play (4-0), including a 42-14 nationally televised win over arch-rival Miami. The Falcons were the top program in the MAC in punt returns (12.97) and finished second in passing (388.8), scoring (35.8) and net punting (35.1) and third in total offense (447.8), pass efficiency (142.4) and turnover margin (.73). The Falcons were ranked 16th in the country in punt returns, 17th in passing, 18th in scoring, 20th in turnover margin, and 21st in pass efficiency.
In 2004, Brandon guided the Falcons to a national ranking in each major poll for the second straight year as they finished 9-3. The Falcons also boasted the most potent offense in MAC history finishing second in the country at 506.3 yards per game and fourth nationally in scoring offense at 44.3 points per game. Both established new league records. In addition, the Falcons finished third in the country in passing (338.3) and turnover margin (+1.25) and fourth in pass efficiency (165.5). In addition, he saw sophomore quarterback Omar Jacobs earn All-American honors and blossom into the national leader in TD passes with 41 and set an NCAA record for touchdown to interception ratio with just four picks all season. For his efforts he was named MAC Offensive Player of the Year.
In 2003, Brandon guided BGSU to a #23 national ranking in the final AP and Coaches Poll (23rd) and a #24 position in the final BCS standings. Last year, he had the top record of any first-time, first-year head coach that season with an 11-3 mark after guiding the Falcons to a MAC West title (7-1) and a win over Northwestern in the Motor City Bowl. In addition, he saw BGSU ranked for a school record eight weeks and make five national television appearances. Also, BGSU finished third in the country in total offense (496.7), ninth in passing offense (300.4), 14th in passing efficiency (147.29), and 20th in scoring (33.6). Defensively, the Falcons were the third highest rated team in the MAC. Senior quarterback Josh Harris and senior cornerback Janssen Patton also earned All-American honors for their stellar individual performances.
After serving as the offensive coordinator under Urban Meyer for two years Brandon became the 16th head coach in the history of the Falcon football program on Dec. 19, 2002.
Brandon Coaching Record
Year Overall MAC
2007 8-5 6-2
2006 4-8 3-5
2005 6-5 5-3
2004 9-3 6-2
2003 11-3 7-1
Overall 38-24 27-13
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You're the worst moderator ever.Flipper wrote:falconboy...your inability to use the quote function correctly has made it appear that I posted soemthing that someone else did. Must you always be a dumbass?![]()
I could fix it since I am a moderator, but I think it's more fun to call you a dumbass....again
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