2008 game: UT vs. OSU

[Falconfreak90]

I might hate BG when it comes to competition against Toledo, but I respect Bowling Green. That is one thing about the UT/BG rivalry that makes it special. Even though everyone doesn't feel that way, many fans respect the other school. I cheer for BG in all of their OOC games.

rf is a good dude. Over the course of the last few weeks, I've tried to take a look from the other point of view. All us BG fans love the Falcons passionately and want to see them accomplish big things. It is no different for rf and the UT fans....they love the Rockets and want to see UT do well. We have more in common than most would care to admit. We just root for different teams.

I totally despise UT....I want to beat them every year more than anyone, by a country mile. However, ya gotta give credit when due and UT has earned credit from me. They have had one losing season...ONE...in the last 15 years.....ONE LOSING SEASON. BG has had 7 losing seasons in the last 15 years (90, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 2000). UT has won the MAC 3 times in the last 10 years. We haven't won the MAC in 12 years. Believe me, there are few people out there that hate losing to UT more than me. If I am gonna be unbiased about this, I have to look at it without my orange and brown glasses.

Like rf said, that's one of the things that makes this rivalry so great...the programs are pretty evenly matched and despise each other....but also respect each other.

Check this out...the last 36 games played between BG and UT? Each team has won 18 times. Now that's a rivalry.

UT still blows!

28 days...

[JoeFalcon]

I get what y'all are saying. My criticism was never originally about the strength of the UT program or the conduct of rival posters on message boards. It was simply that their non-conference scheduling philosophy is timid.

In the past two years, BG has played two teams that have played in the BCS National Championship game in Ohio State and Oklahoma. Going back 5 years, the BCS opponents UT has played include Minnesota, Penn State and Syracuse.

The Pitt, Purdue, Temple, Kansas and Boise games cancel each other out because of past/future games between both BG and UT.

I'm sorry, but Ohio State and Oklahoma are tougher than Minnesota, Penn State and Syracuse.

Other MAC school opponents in the last 5 years include Florida, Michigan and Virginia Tech. Again, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say UT's non-conference scheduling is timid compared to BG and much of the conference. Again, if you look at the OOC road games scores for UT, you'd see numbers that would make a coach and an AD a tad hesitant to stick their neck out against any type of formidable comptition.

[rocketfootball]

I get what y'all are saying. My criticism was never originally about the strength of the UT program or the conduct of rival posters on message boards. It was simply that their non-conference scheduling philosophy is timid.

In the past two years, BG has played two teams that have played in the BCS National Championship game in Ohio State and Oklahoma. Going back 5 years, the BCS opponents UT has played include Minnesota, Penn State and Syracuse.

The Pitt, Purdue, Temple, Kansas and Boise games cancel each other out because of past/future games between both BG and UT.

I'm sorry, but Ohio State and Oklahoma are tougher than Minnesota, Penn State and Syracuse.

Other MAC school opponents in the last 5 years include Florida, Michigan and Virginia Tech. Again, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say UT's non-conference scheduling is timid compared to BG and much of the conference. Again, if you look at the OOC road games scores for UT, you'd see numbers that would make a coach and an AD a tad hesitant to stick their neck out against any type of formidable comptition.

I hear what you are saying, but you have to understand that you are not going to play Oklahoma and Ohio State in BG where Toledo got to play Minnesota and Syracuse in Toledo. Penn State played in the Fiesta Bowl just a couple of years before Toledo played them.

[jerzyboy247]

The fact of UT playing Minnesota and Syracuse before they reach the high standard bowl games means jack. BG played Oaklahoma and Ohio State while those teams were on the verge of the top programs trying to play for the nations big game. Toledo AD is real stupid if he does not take the chance of playing the Ohio State University. Ohio State may not be offering the most money to play UT but they are losing the national exposure and potential future students. Also scheduling big schools like OSU also helps recriutment for the univsersity and for Toledo to pass this opportunity is just stupid. I also find it funny that some of my friends were offered full tuition scholarships to Toledo if they had a 3.2 GPA and didn't even apply to the school. And by the way, schools that complain about big schools not coming to them makes them sound like a momma's boy.

[rocketfootball]

The fact of UT playing Minnesota and Syracuse before they reach the high standard bowl games means jack. BG played Oaklahoma and Ohio State while those teams were on the verge of the top programs trying to play for the nations big game. Toledo AD is real stupid if he does not take the chance of playing the Ohio State University. Ohio State may not be offering the most money to play UT but they are losing the national exposure and potential future students. Also scheduling big schools like OSU also helps recriutment for the univsersity and for Toledo to pass this opportunity is just stupid. I also find it funny that some of my friends were offered full tuition scholarships to Toledo if they had a 3.2 GPA and didn't even apply to the school. And by the way, schools that complain about big schools not coming to them makes them sound like a momma's boy.

Man, where do I start. Toledo played on national television 7 times last year. Many of the recruits we go after are being offered by teams like Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Penn State, Indiana, and Purdue................not Ohio State. Toledo is scheduling just right for what we do. Our top recruit this past season said one of the main reasons he liked Toledo was because we were always on TV and played bcs programs in Toledo. He picked us over offers from Minnesota, Purdue, Penn State, and Boston College.

If Ohio State is going to offer us less than they offered other MAC schools then why should we accept? Because some BG fans think you have to play Ohio State in order to get respect? And for all of this we could end up playing Ohio State still in 2008. No one here knows what has exactly been discussed and said by the AD's at Toledo and Ohio State when talking to each other about the game.

At least at Toledo, our recruits tend to get pretty excited about our program when we can tell them we are or will be hosting schools like Minnesota, Purdue, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and so on during their time on the team. Just because a few BG fans here think that is crap doesn't mean it is. And remarkably the kids that are being recruited for DI-A football tend to know that schools like Purdue, Fresno State, Pittsburgh, and Boise State are very good football teams that tend to be ranked year after year.

[mossmaidi]

No wonder not many UT fans post on this board, because when they do they get lynched by some of the posters here. I understand UT's scheduling situation. If every UT fan had it their way, they'd schedule the top dogs too. But reality is not all big time programs want to play MAC schools, even at home. I understand what you are saying RF.

[jerzyboy247]

Why do you brag about playing Syracuse RF. The fact is Syracuse sucks in football. Indiana and Penn State are ugly programs that are looking to be six feet under in a few seasons. The only respectable team that you mention is Minnesota. Pittsburgh only appears to be a dominate team but the truth is Big East football is really weak. Stop trying to make UT sound like they play a tough schedule every year because the truth is you don't. I would like to see UT play Oaklahoma, Ohio State, Wisconsin, or even Boise State. Teams that make runs every year to play in a BCS game.

[FalconKing]

Why do you brag about playing Syracuse RF. The fact is Syracuse sucks in football. Indiana and Penn State are ugly programs that are looking to be six feet under in a few seasons. The only respectable team that you mention is Minnesota. Pittsburgh only appears to be a dominate team but the truth is Big East football is really weak. Stop trying to make UT sound like they play a tough schedule every year because the truth is you don't. I would like to see UT play Oaklahoma, Ohio State, Wisconsin, or even Boise State. Teams that make runs every year to play in a BCS game.

Please take a seat and lurk for a while, would you? Penn State and Syracuse being horrible teams is a recent advent. Toledo did lose to Syracuse on the road a couple years ago, but it was after a huge win against Pitt at the Glass Bowl. Gee, I don't know any other teams that have blown chunks on the road after a huge home victory (2003 NIU @ home then Miami away). Toledo's scheduling is just fine. In fact, it is better than ours. They are getting BCS teams to come to their place when we struggle to get D-1A teams to come to the Doyt.

Stop trying to pick a fight with someone just because he's a Rocket fan. He hasn't come on here to start a fight, and in fact hasn't even said anything unreasonable.

[MiamiBando]

Don't you mean 2002 NIU? The team that scored like 16 points in like 1 quarter, to comeback to win?

[TG1996]

Don't you mean 2002 NIU? The team that scored like 16 points in like 1 quarter, to comeback to win?

No, he means 2003.


And in general, I think there are ALOT of folks around here that have to remember that BG football started in 1919, not 2001.