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[tekekini]

Basically, I think the national title game will end up being OSU vs. Michigan (if they're both still unbeaten).

I hope you're talking about the regular season game metaphorically because there is no possibility of the two of them playing in the national championship both unbeaten.

Nice thought though.

NOT TO mention that there is not a possibility of a OSU UM rematch for the national title

I will disagree and say that it is entirely possible. The SEC is gonna cannibilize itself and no team comes out of there with less than two losses. WVU and Loiusville play each other guaranteeing that one will lose. And let's just say that the winner stubs their toe somewhere else along the way. Missiouri isn't goning undefeated, nor is Rutgers. So that leaves USC, OSU, and MI as your only undefeateds late in November. And the only credible one loss team is Texas.

Let's say that OSU beats Michigan in a close, tight game that could go either way. And ND beats USC that weekend as well. So now OSU is left undefeated and in the champioship game. And your one loss teams are Texas (which OSU beat on the road already, so why a rematch now?), Michigan (which lost to OSU in a great game on the road), ND (who Michigan smoked so how can you pick them ahead of MI), and USC (who just lost to the team that lost to the team that is undefeated).

Given those choices, I think the voters could put MI #2. And the computers certainly wouldn't ding MI for losing to # 1. Anything is possible with the goofy BCS, so in no way would I discount the possibility of OSU and Michigan playing for the national title.

It will never happen. you do not lose the last game of the year then get rewarded for it by being put into a national title game..

In my opinion, in your scenario ND or Texas would move to #2 If USC's only loss is to ND that is going to be the big quality win they would need to get back in it. they lsot early then won out where UM would be winning early then lose late. in college football the later you lose the more screwed you are. It is just the way it is.

It is very very extremely unlikely that a non conference champion would play in a title game when there would be many many other conference champions deserving of the spot with 1 loss = to UM's loss (based on your given scenario)

In no way do you deserve to play for a national title if you can't even win your own conference which OSU or UM would not do given that 1 loss


This is all assuming your scenario played out..with Florida and the rest of that conference beating themselves up, WVA losing to louisville and or rutgers etc. leaving UM, Texas, USC with 1 loss teams.

Why a rematch with texas???simple they would be conference champions. UM 2nd place in big ten

[BGSUfalcons]

Basically, I think the national title game will end up being OSU vs. Michigan (if they're both still unbeaten).

I hope you're talking about the regular season game metaphorically because there is no possibility of the two of them playing in the national championship both unbeaten.

Nice thought though.

NOT TO mention that there is not a possibility of a OSU UM rematch for the national title

I will disagree and say that it is entirely possible. The SEC is gonna cannibilize itself and no team comes out of there with less than two losses. WVU and Loiusville play each other guaranteeing that one will lose. And let's just say that the winner stubs their toe somewhere else along the way. Missiouri isn't goning undefeated, nor is Rutgers. So that leaves USC, OSU, and MI as your only undefeateds late in November. And the only credible one loss team is Texas.

Let's say that OSU beats Michigan in a close, tight game that could go either way. And ND beats USC that weekend as well. So now OSU is left undefeated and in the champioship game. And your one loss teams are Texas (which OSU beat on the road already, so why a rematch now?), Michigan (which lost to OSU in a great game on the road), ND (who Michigan smoked so how can you pick them ahead of MI), and USC (who just lost to the team that lost to the team that is undefeated).

Given those choices, I think the voters could put MI #2. And the computers certainly wouldn't ding MI for losing to # 1. Anything is possible with the goofy BCS, so in no way would I discount the possibility of OSU and Michigan playing for the national title.

It will never happen. you do not lose the last game of the year then get rewarded for it by being put into a national title game..

In my opinion, in your scenario ND or Texas would move to #2 If USC's only loss is to ND that is going to be the big quality win they would need to get back in it. they lsot early then won out where UM would be winning early then lose late. in college football the later you lose the more screwed you are. It is just the way it is.

It is very very extremely unlikely that a non conference champion would play in a title game when there would be many many other conference champions deserving of the spot with 1 loss = to UM's loss (based on your given scenario)

In no way do you deserve to play for a national title if you can't even win your own conference which OSU or UM would not do given that 1 loss


This is all assuming your scenario played out..with Florida and the rest of that conference beating themselves up, WVA losing to louisville and or rutgers etc. leaving UM, Texas, USC with 1 loss teams.

Why a rematch with texas???simple they would be conference champions. UM 2nd place in big ten

Well....

Nebraska 2001. Lost to Colorado in the Big 12 championship, played Miami in the BCS national title game.

Oklahoma 2003. Lost to Kansas St. in the Big 12 championship, played LSU in the BCS national title game.

And, both Nebraska and Oklahoma got smoked in the Big 12 championship. The BCS ranking formula was different in both 2001 and 2003 than it is today, but Michigan could easily end up in the BCS championship after a close loss to OSU.

[tekekini]

you forgot one minor detail.

THEY DIDN'T PLAY OTHER BIG TWELVE OPPONENTS IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!!!!!

Also, in those years, were there any other undefeated or 1 loss teams??

I am asking because I dont know...and I dont feel like looking it up..

IF Oklahoma was the only remaining undefeated and lost the big 12 championship game then they would have been on even ground with everyone else that had one loss AP and coaches poll prolly still unjustifiably voted OU #1 ad that carried a lot of weight n the old BCS formula since they took the average of both polls to add to some other numbers then deducted points for quality wins and the lowest BCS score = the best rating. so if you started off with 2 # 1 rankings in those polls your score wasnt starting off very high to begin with.

I am guessing those two years there were no other undefeated teams and probably very few 1 loss teams so those were rare years??

The way it is now one of those polls AP or coaches I forget (prolly AP) doesnt even count or participate in BCS anymore.

But I strongly strongly doubt that Michigan would end up in the title if they lost to OSU close game or not, after ND beat USC, Texas still undefeated they will not put two teams from the same conference in the same game for the title especially when one just lost the last game of the season.

OK i know you had two examples of teams losing the last game and still making the championship game but I am throwing in there that they didnt play anyone from their conference in the title game nor will that EVER happen.

ONLY way it could happen is if there were two different Big ten teams undefeated (who didnt play each other) and share a big ten title.

but OSU and UM always play so it will never happen between them two.

[BGSUVA]

dont recall the other 2001 teams, but USC only had 1 loss in 03.

[BGSUfalcons]

dont recall the other 2001 teams, but USC only had 1 loss in 03.

Not looking it up, but if my memory serves me correctly Oregon had one loss in 2001 and was #2 in both human polls pre-bowl. I should add that (I think) Nebraska was #4 in both human polls pre-bowl.

[tekekini]

I thought Oregon was # 2 before the BCS...and I would fins it hard to believe that Nebraska made it to the title game being #4 with the way the BCS used to be set up vut the BCS has been kinda fucked up from the beginning and that was probably its first year (dont remember when it came around)

I dont even remember Nebraska ever playing a BCS title game i thought all of their titles were pre BCS.

that shows how irrelevant nebraska is