Coaching Carousel: Any Clawson rumors

[Globetrotter]

I think thats a perfect scenario...but I am not sure any of those guys go for it without being the hc right away.

Jobs left now

Florida International $522,183 2012 Salary
Kent State $300,000
San Jose State $411,820
Temple ?
Western Michigan $379,250
Wisconsin $2,640,140

[Globetrotter]

Also,

What if its the ND guy and they are just waiting until after the bowl?

[Globetrotter]

How does Gene Chizik go from National Champion to fired in 3 years and how does he not have another job offer? If Skip Holtz just got another gig.

[Falcon137]

How does Gene Chizik go from National Champion to fired in 3 years and how does he not have another job offer? If Skip Holtz just got another gig.

Stigma behind the whole Cam Newton recruiting thing? That's a good question. Maybe he doesn't get his full buyout if he takes another head coaching job.

[transfer2BGSU]

How does Gene Chizik go from National Champion to fired in 3 years

That's easy to answer. "What have you done for me lately?"

You won a National Championship? In 2012? No. 2011? No. 2010 - that was so long ago.

This year: 3 wins, 9 losses. Big time donors do not like paying $1,192,500 per win. Even if you did win a National Championship three years ago.

...and how does he not have another job offer?

Simple. 5-19 at Iowa State. Lasts only three years at Auburn. Oh, and don't forget the whole Cam Newton thing.

[Globetrotter]

How does Gene Chizik go from National Champion to fired in 3 years

That's easy to answer. "What have you done for me lately?"

You won a National Championship? In 2012? No. 2011? No. 2010 - that was so long ago.

This year: 3 wins, 9 losses. Big time donors do not like paying $1,192,500 per win. Even if you did win a National Championship three years ago.

...and how does he not have another job offer?

Simple. 5-19 at Iowa State. Lasts only three years at Auburn. Oh, and don't forget the whole Cam Newton thing.

It's not that simple. A national championship typically affords you a longer leash when it comes to these things. And they knew his record at Iowa State before they hired him. And when they did so he won. I think you don't realize how big of a deal the National Championship is because you would rather have your team have a MAC EAST championship.

[MarkL]

Chizik is a great defensive coordinator and he'll be a great one again in the future. As a head coach, though, he was abysmal at Iowa State. He was hired at Auburn because of his work for the 13-0 04 Auburn team's defense. Iowa State got an upgrade. At Auburn, he had big boosters pay for Cam Newton and some other players. What you saw this past season was Auburn run Gene Chizik's way, which is just like Iowa State. The real reasons for his successes at Auburn are big bucks paid for high profile players and Gus Malzahn. I think and believe he'll be outstanding as the new head coach at Auburn. Chizik should be hired as a defensive coordinator because he's proven to be one of the best in the business. Undefeated at Auburn in 04, undefeated at Texas in 05, both with nationally top defenses.

[Globetrotter]

Chizik is a great defensive coordinator and he'll be a great one again in the future. As a head coach, though, he was abysmal at Iowa State. He was hired at Auburn because of his work for the 13-0 04 Auburn team's defense. Iowa State got an upgrade. At Auburn, he had big boosters pay for Cam Newton and some other players. What you saw this past season was Auburn run Gene Chizik's way, which is just like Iowa State. The real reasons for his successes at Auburn are big bucks paid for high profile players and Gus Malzahn. I think and believe he'll be outstanding as the new head coach at Auburn. Chizik should be hired as a defensive coordinator because he's proven to be one of the best in the business. Undefeated at Auburn in 04, undefeated at Texas in 05, both with nationally top defenses.

It sounds like what really went wrong was when he tried to replaced Malzahns offense with a different style that the QB couldn't run.

And whoever said Buyout was correct:

"Auburn said the total buyout for Chizik and his assistant coaches is $11.09 million. Chizik's buyout will total $7.5 million and be paid in monthly installments of $208,334 for the next 36 months.


In doing so, Auburn is admitting that it is firing Chizik without cause, and that there are no violations that could have allowed the school to fire him without pay. If new violations arise stemming from his time as coach, the school would have to head to court to get the buyout money back from Chizik.


The deal calls for Chizik to make "reasonable" efforts to land a new job, with that salary deducted from the buyout."

[MarkL]

My goodness that is one massive buyout.

Interesting note ... if he were to be fired due to committing NCAA violations, no buyout would have been owed. If the university were to find NCAA violations later that were committed under his watch, can they cancel buyout payments? Reason is, in this season when it was clear Auburn's season was toast, word of payments from boosters to players appeared at Auburn. I was really wondering if some high profile Auburn boosters were, say, unhappy with their ROI and were leaking to the press rumors of some anonymous boosters paying hefty amounts to current Auburn players or recruits with Chizik's knowledge. Auburn University would look into said violations, use it as an excuse to can Chizik, new coach comes in, no buyout owed to Chizik.

This is pure speculation on my part. If such is the case, I hope it becomes public because that sort of shadiness has no business in college football yet I fear it is quite common. If it is purely speculation and I'm totally off base, that would make for one darn good movie script.

[transfer2BGSU]

...and how does he not have another job offer?

Simple. 5-19 at Iowa State. Lasts only three years at Auburn. Oh, and don't forget the whole Cam Newton thing.

It's not that simple. A national championship typically affords you a longer leash when it comes to these things. And they knew his record at Iowa State before they hired him. And when they did so he won. I think you don't realize how big of a deal the National Championship is because you would rather have your team have a MAC EAST championship.

If I'm an AD at a big time program, I see a guy who was 5-19 in two seasons at Iowa State and he lasted only three years at Auburn (another big time school). I don't see a guy who is going to be the HC for my team. Then I take into account what I know about the whole Cam Newton mess and I ask myself "Do I want to deal with the NCAA on a matter that doesn't involve my school?"

It IS that simple.

My team has nothing to do with this. And you might want to get it straight - I want them to win the MAC East Championship first, the MAC championship second. You can keep your "big money it means nothing at all National Championship". When we go 12-0 or 13-0 and win the MAC East, MAC Championship, and finish the season undefeated, we'll declare ourselves to be National Champions.

[Globetrotter]

My goodness that is one massive buyout.

Interesting note ... if he were to be fired due to committing NCAA violations, no buyout would have been owed. If the university were to find NCAA violations later that were committed under his watch, can they cancel buyout payments? Reason is, in this season when it was clear Auburn's season was toast, word of payments from boosters to players appeared at Auburn. I was really wondering if some high profile Auburn boosters were, say, unhappy with their ROI and were leaking to the press rumors of some anonymous boosters paying hefty amounts to current Auburn players or recruits with Chizik's knowledge. Auburn University would look into said violations, use it as an excuse to can Chizik, new coach comes in, no buyout owed to Chizik.

This is pure speculation on my part. If such is the case, I hope it becomes public because that sort of shadiness has no business in college football yet I fear it is quite common. If it is purely speculation and I'm totally off base, that would make for one darn good movie script.

I think its a great point. Must have been some interesting politics on the backend. Keep in mind he was given that new contract after the championship. So they might have assumed there was wrongdoing and if it turned up they could oust him without paying. He will make more a month then most households make in 4-5 years. To not do his job. Incredible.

[Globetrotter]

...and how does he not have another job offer?

Simple. 5-19 at Iowa State. Lasts only three years at Auburn. Oh, and don't forget the whole Cam Newton thing.

It's not that simple. A national championship typically affords you a longer leash when it comes to these things. And they knew his record at Iowa State before they hired him. And when they did so he won. I think you don't realize how big of a deal the National Championship is because you would rather have your team have a MAC EAST championship.

If I'm an AD at a big time program, I see a guy who was 5-19 in two seasons at Iowa State and he lasted only three years at Auburn (another big time school). I don't see a guy who is going to be the HC for my team. Then I take into account what I know about the whole Cam Newton mess and I ask myself "Do I want to deal with the NCAA on a matter that doesn't involve my school?"

It IS that simple.

My team has nothing to do with this. And you might want to get it straight - I want them to win the MAC East Championship first, the MAC championship second. You can keep your "big money it means nothing at all National Championship". When we go 12-0 or 13-0 and win the MAC East, MAC Championship, and finish the season undefeated, we'll declare ourselves to be National Champions.

The recruits a Temple, FIU, BG, Kent, WMU or San Jose State can get by hiring a former National Champion coach would dwarf the ones they currently get. Add in transfers from Auburn. This is one of those perfect scenarios where a small school gets a solid coach at a decent price and jumpstarts there program.

[transfer2BGSU]

The recruits a Temple, FIU, BG, Kent, WMU or San Jose State can get by hiring a former National Champion coach would dwarf the ones they currently get. Add in transfers from Auburn. This is one of those perfect scenarios where a small school gets a solid coach at a decent price and jumpstarts there program.

And exactly how did OU finish this year? What big time recruits have they gotten with Solich?

[jpfalcon09]

P.J. Fleck is the new head coach at Western Michigan.

[Falcon137]

The recruits a Temple, FIU, BG, Kent, WMU or San Jose State can get by hiring a former National Champion coach would dwarf the ones they currently get. Add in transfers from Auburn. This is one of those perfect scenarios where a small school gets a solid coach at a decent price and jumpstarts there program.

And exactly how did OU finish this year? What big time recruits have they gotten with Solich?

Solich never won a national championship. But, he did jump start OU's program.