Flipper wrote:Bullshit...guys a year or two out of college...particularly guys who have been to camps with other teams or dropped from practice squads.. get second looks all the time.
Sure, but rookies will take up way more roster spots in the offseason. Thats who teams look at first. The guys you are talking about sign futures contracts in the offseason right after the regular season ends. Each year every NFL team adds about 20 rookies.
Can you make it after not making it the first time? Sure. Its just rare. Everyone wants the new thing.
They want the best player....they'll give a draft pick a longer look than a UDFA...but I don't think ....unless he kills it at pro day...that Lewis is getting drafted.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
Lewis ending up posting a 40-time between 4.44 and 4.48, a 10'5" broad jump and a 36" vertical today which was an improvement on his combine performance.
Flipper wrote:They want the best player....they'll give a draft pick a longer look than a UDFA...but I don't think ....unless he kills it at pro day...that Lewis is getting drafted.
Mr negative is back. Faster than B Miller. He will get drafted village idiot... Put money on it.
Flipper wrote:They want the best player....they'll give a draft pick a longer look than a UDFA...but I don't think ....unless he kills it at pro day...that Lewis is getting drafted.
Mr negative is back. Faster than B Miller. He will get drafted village idiot... Put money on it.
He wasn't faster than MIller...he was almost a tenth of a second slower at the combine. Miller allegedly ran a sub 4.4 at OSU's pro day...begs the question as to which is more accurate, individual pro day sites or a single site. I'm going to assume he was faster than Rich Eisen or Maurice Claret. I hope he does get drafted because I don't bear him any ill will and hope he succeeds. I think he made a mistake in leaving early for reasons I've already outlined. Improving his measurables will help...hope the combine didn't hurt hm too badly.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
Flipper wrote:They want the best player....they'll give a draft pick a longer look than a UDFA...but I don't think ....unless he kills it at pro day...that Lewis is getting drafted.
Mr negative is back. Faster than B Miller. He will get drafted village idiot... Put money on it.
He wasn't faster than MIller...he was almost a tenth of a second slower at the combine. Miller allegedly ran a sub 4.4 at OSU's pro day...begs the question as to which is more accurate, individual pro day sites or a single site. I'm going to assume he was faster than Rich Eisen or Maurice Claret. I hope he does get drafted because I don't bear him any ill will and hope he succeeds. I think he made a mistake in leaving early for reasons I've already outlined. Improving his measurables will help...hope the combine didn't hurt hm too badly.
That is not a correct number on Millers pro day. I was in Columbus that day and it was everywhere in the news. He ran slower than lewis.
Regardless...they're both claiming faster times now. Will those times carry more weight? Who knows...the combine uses lasers, pro day typically uses hand times (which aren't quite as accurate). Running surface also plays a part. UT had this rubber track they used to use...still do for allI know...that shaved several tenths of a second off a guy's time.
Like I said...hope he got a boost today and he gets picked in the draft.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
40 times are funny. Some orgs seem to put more credence in the electronically timed 40s at the Combine (I would be inclined to lean this way as well). Everybody is timed on the same track with the same equipment, over the same couple days.
Other "old school" type scouts won't put any weight on any 40 time that isn't hand timed by themselves...I suspect those types have a specific way they time it that may differ slightly from the electronics. Thing is the guys that only trust their hand timed ones aren't publishing those results on the internet. So we hear Braxton & Lewis, and anybody else may have run quicker at their pro days (everybody always seems to), but we don't really know which scouts are putting weight in those times and what THEY timed the guys at.
And of course OSU has a notoriously FAST track. To the point where I've heard current/former players joke with Ohio State guys that the thing must be downhill, or only 38 yards, or something. No idea what the reputation of the track at BG is.
I still think Lewis gets drafted and if anybody actually did hand time him sub 4.5 and puts weight in that time, I'm sure it'll help him immensely. I still don't see him going higher than 125-150 pick range, though. If I had to guess I'd probably put him between 150-200.
Regardless...they're both claiming faster times now. Will those times carry more weight? Who knows...the combine uses lasers, pro day typically uses hand times (which aren't quite as accurate). Running surface also plays a part. UT had this rubber track they used to use...still do for allI know...that shaved several tenths of a second off a guy's time.
Like I said...hope he got a boost today and he gets picked in the draft.
I said pro day times. Just man up and say Oh I may be off here. You said he would not get drafted- period. I will take you up on that.
You didn't say anything about "pro day times"...even if you had Miller supposedly ran 4.35's on his pro day to Lewis in the 4.4's. You're still wrong...and FWIW, I still don't think he's getting drafted. But...I'll make the same deal with you as I did Globe. If Lewis gets drafted I'll donate $20 each to whatever food bank is in BG in your name and his.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
I get the OSU hatred...but Miller isn't soft. He played most of a bowl game with a torn labrum and the year before that he got dropped on his head so hard they had to take him off in an ambulance...he played the next week. He's a tough kid...
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
