Student Section?

[1987alum]

...I can't join it anyways I am Alumni not a student but it is still going to backfire thats my argument.

OK OK OK you're against the idea. I'm not.

All of you - Quit bitching about the Athletic Department not doing anything then bitching when they do something.

If you think you've got a better idea, then send your resume to Paul Krebs and he can hire you if he wants to.

Transfer:

Exactly. I've been vocal in the past about the AD's weak marketing effort. But it seems to me that they have some real momentum going. We may not like all of the idea - heck, some folks won't like any of them - but the fact is, they are making a real, concentrated effort. Several people have commented that they've never gotten so much information about Homecoming. And - surprise, surprise - it looks like Homecoming may sell out.

There's more to marketing than buying a few billboards. You employ a broad spectrum of efforts. Some cost a lot, some cost a a little, some are free. Some are flashy and attention-getting, some are low-key. Some work fantastically, some fizzle.

[Flipper]

We don't have the budget (I presume) to do a lot of broad marketing. We have to work in smaller, targeted chunks and then hope the momentum spreads like a virus.

Hence the term, "viral marketing"

[Bleeding Orange]

**Begin diatribe**

Can anyone around here give something a chance before they start trying to identify the potential problems that could surround this organization? How about the positives? Has it ever even crossed anyone's mind that this group could have been formed to market Falcon sports to a student body that year by year is coming into college with an increasingly consumer mindset? Do you really think that $15 dollars is intended to bloat the AD's coffers? No, its trivial in the long run. And by the same token, do you REALLY think that $15 dollars is either an a.) unreasonable ammount of money for a student to spend, or b.) an ammount that is going to preclude many people for financial reasons from being able to join the Flock? The answer is no to both of those questions, and if you do think that $15 is unreasonable, then in my humble opinion you are just bitching for the sake of bitching. Its stupid.

The fact of the matter is that, no matter how much or how little you or I can relate to it, the vast majority of students currently entering colleges respond to marketing and little else. The fact of the matter is that because of the developing consumerist mentality of college-age youth, they see little value in anything that they don't have to pay for. They are increasingly beginning to equate inherent value with monetary value. Part of this circumstance is the fact that a majority of students either a.) don't realize, and/or b.) don't care that a portion of their student fee goes to athletics. Yes, a few of you here do, but think about it - you are engaged with this University in a way that many of the students who sleep in class and party all week can and will never be able to relate to. Is it a sad state of affairs? Myself and many others would say yes. But, until something very profound happens to alter this trend, there is little that universities can do to change it, and it is a dynamic with which they must work. All the University is doing is making due with what they have, which is prudent.

There is nothing pejorative about trying to market Falcon sports in a way that an increasing majority of the student body can relate to. Will it take time to implement the program 100% effectively? Sure, but what new program in any institution or venue is flawless from the outset? What is the point of sitting around here and deriding a new group that is only intended to help generate and sustain student support for our athletic programs? A lot of you need to relax and not react to things that haven't happened yet. Wait until you get to the game to see how this program will be administrated instead of bitching about the possible ways that it can go wrong. Give it a chance - there are obviously some students who are. Don't let your piss-ass attitude ruin it for them.

Perhaps some of you should be asking yourselves why you are so resistant to change...

**End diatribe**

I've never been one to quote myself, but since it appears that many of you chose to simply ignore this and continue sounding like three year olds, I'll make an exception just this once.

I never thought that I would say this, but I am becoming increasingly more disappointed with the attitudes being expressed in this place. Some of you support absolutely nothing this University does, and it seems that all you are here to do is complain (Falconboy, I'm talking to you and your ilk). Call me all the names and make all the excuses that you care to, but perceptions are reality in the internet world. I'm not the only one around here that has this perception of many of you.

[PGY Tiercel]

Sounds just like another way to make up some money for this Sebo Center.

Yes, falconboy. That is exactly it. All money the MARKETING DEPARTMENT makes goes to the Sebo. Do you have any idea what you are talking about with anything anymore?

Didn't say its was bad the are trying to get money for the Sebo , I'm saying its kinda telling that the're resorting to this to come up with enough money for the Sebo.

I don't understand you. You complain that nobody steps up to donate, and cry that we don't have any big donors, (of course I am suprised to not hear you crying about why the 3mill recently donated didn't go to the Sebo/AD instead of funding EDUCATIONAL endeavors) and now you make statements about them having to "resort" to this to raise the money. As I told UK yesterday in the office, I don't care if they "pass the collection plate" at the games" why not try to get everyone who comes to a game to throw 5 or 10$ in everytime to help build it. Format the Sebo video and play it during every half time. I believe 100% that the Sebo center will be built, I just want to see has much money come from donations as possible.

[1987alum]

Call me all the names and make all the excuses that you care to.

Thanks! This may take some time to properly prepare for that, though.

[Schadenfreude]

My opinion: A lot more heat than light in this thread.

[Falcons4Life]

You know what I think.....The fact is with Toledo right up the street....and with their success of the past years....aka ACTUALLY WINNING THE MAC TITLE....we have a ton of competition, and until the nuetral Maumeeite or Perrysburgian see that we can actually do something significant, they would much rather go to a stadium where they have recent years painted on their MAC champs board. It has been said, but if we win, they will come!

As far as the student group....I just wanna know when we will start one for girls swimming....that would be hot!