GAME ON

[jpfalcon09]

Negativity about coaching. Personally I think there isn't enough negatively. We had a top defense last year. This coaching staff ruined that. Yes we lost players but we went from one of the best to the worst rushing defense in the nation.

The defense is not as good as everyone thinks. It's deep up the middle at LB but the line hasn't nearly done enough to get pressure and the secondary has played loose coverage all season.

[Schadenfreude]

Negativity about coaching. Personally I think there isn't enough negatively. We had a top defense last year. This coaching staff ruined that. Yes we lost players but we went from one of the best to the worst rushing defense in the nation.

The last drive was painful to watch, but this defense is playing hard. They've been on the field about 75 percent of the time. I don't blame the defense for this situation.

[kdog27]

Too much negativity in this thread about coaching. If Johnson is under center this team is leading at the half. The coaches aren't perfect but they are trying. Clever drive at the end there.

Plenty of teams lose a QB and move forward. We have 6 good receivers and 3 good running backs to work with. There is no reason to look this bad offensively after losing your starting QB 12 games ago.

[hammb]

Negativity about coaching. Personally I think there isn't enough negatively. We had a top defense last year. This coaching staff ruined that. Yes we lost players but we went from one of the best to the worst rushing defense in the nation.

The defense is not as good as everyone thinks. It's deep up the middle at LB but the line hasn't nearly done enough to get pressure and the secondary has played loose coverage all season.

Which wouldn't be a problem if they would actually tackle somebody when playing off. You can give up short completions, you cannot allow the wr to lower their shoulder and turn them into first downs all the time.

Our secondary is, and has been, a weakness all year. And not surprisingly that's the unit that lost the most talent.

[Flipper]

We didn't stop a decent rushing offense last year. Toledo and Pitt especially killed us.

Knapke has struggled all year...even against IU. There were a lot of instances where his WR's bailed him out in that game

[hammb]

Too much negativity in this thread about coaching. If Johnson is under center this team is leading at the half. The coaches aren't perfect but they are trying. Clever drive at the end there.

Plenty of teams lose a QB and move forward. We have 6 good receivers and 3 good running backs to work with. There is no reason to look this bad offensively after losing your starting QB 12 games ago.

Sure there is. Our backup qb came out ok but once teams watched some film on him they've shut him down entirely. I suppose you could say we should have gone to another qb, but I really don't know what people expect the staff to do. Our qb freezes in face of pressure, cannot accurately throw anything beyond 5 yards, and doesn't see the field. I suppose they could abandon it all and just run the ball every down, but then everyone would be whining they're not throwing enough.

No matter how much football changes you cannot overcome poor qb play unless you're remarkably dominant on the ol and defense...and those units aren't good enough to overcome it. When Knapke was playing well we were winning some games. No doubt I think the coaches need to improve on some things, but it still think we have a talent issue more than anything right now.

[Schadenfreude]

So do you pull Knapke at this point?

[kdog27]

Too much negativity in this thread about coaching. If Johnson is under center this team is leading at the half. The coaches aren't perfect but they are trying. Clever drive at the end there.

Plenty of teams lose a QB and move forward. We have 6 good receivers and 3 good running backs to work with. There is no reason to look this bad offensively after losing your starting QB 12 games ago.

Sure there is. Our backup qb came out ok but once teams watched some film on him they've shut him down entirely. I suppose you could say we should have gone to another qb, but I really don't know what people expect the staff to do. Our qb freezes in face of pressure, cannot accurately throw anything beyond 5 yards, and doesn't see the field. I suppose they could abandon it all and just run the ball every down, but then everyone would be whining they're not throwing enough.

No matter how much football changes you cannot overcome poor qb play unless you're remarkably dominant on the ol and defense...and those units aren't good enough to overcome it. When Knapke was playing well we were winning some games. No doubt I think the coaches need to improve on some things, but it still think we have a talent issue more than anything right now.

Sorry I just think the QB excuse is weak at this point. You can't develop him or at least try a different approach to the offense... yeah I think that is shitty coaching.

[BGSU33]

Seven damn points, down two scores and they get the ball to start the second half. I've seen nothing from this team in this game or for weeks to believe we're coming back in this one.

[hammb]

So do you pull Knapke at this point?

I'd consider it, but at the same time I figure if I've watched this all year and still feel he's my best bet, the callaway is probably not going to be an improvement.

Bottom line is Babers needs to recruit qbs heavily...even if Johnson is back we need something better to dpre pare for the future.

[tvosra87]

So do you pull Knapke at this point?

Give one more series to do something, if not then pull him. Idk what his deal is, but he has been throwing guys short all game.

[Rollo83]

It don't matter...

[BGSU33]

Ballgame

[hammb]

Too much negativity in this thread about coaching. If Johnson is under center this team is leading at the half. The coaches aren't perfect but they are trying. Clever drive at the end there.

Plenty of teams lose a QB and move forward. We have 6 good receivers and 3 good running backs to work with. There is no reason to look this bad offensively after losing your starting QB 12 games ago.

Sure there is. Our backup qb came out ok but once teams watched some film on him they've shut him down entirely. I suppose you could say we should have gone to another qb, but I really don't know what people expect the staff to do. Our qb freezes in face of pressure, cannot accurately throw anything beyond 5 yards, and doesn't see the field. I suppose they could abandon it all and just run the ball every down, but then everyone would be whining they're not throwing enough.

No matter how much football changes you cannot overcome poor qb play unless you're remarkably dominant on the ol and defense...and those units aren't good enough to overcome it. When Knapke was playing well we were winning some games. No doubt I think the coaches need to improve on some things, but it still think we have a talent issue more than anything right now.

Sorry I just think the QB excuse is weak at this point. You can't develop him or at least try a different approach to the offense... yeah I think that is shitty coaching.

But they HAVE tried a different approach. They've taken the intermediate timing stuff that he cannot do almost entirely out of the playbook. He has a strong arm and we've got some good receivers so we keep letting him take shots deep and get the ball into the wrs hands quickly on screens. We still have been running the ball a ton even though the defense knows we cannot build a rhythm passing game.


This "just develop him" assumes, incorrectly IMO, that it's even possible. I know it's fun to rip the coaches and show nothing but love for the players but it's not fair. And I've never shown an inability to criticize coaches...I just think it's gotten ridiculous at this point how much venom is spewed on Babers, when the players aren't executing worth a damn.

[guest44]

Now let's see how this team plays this game out. This is usually when the players start crowding around the heaters to stay warm.