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Of interest:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/f ... index.html

Ranger....when is UT's pro day? Is Brucie participating?

I'm not sure to be honest.

Then what the hell good are you?

Toledo is holding their pro day the same day as BG: March 2nd.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts

ESPN's Todd McShay has his rankings up for all positions, before the combine. He mentions that they will change as each player starts working out, etc... Since it is an insider only article I'll just post the top 15 QBs, since that is where most the interest is here:

Matt Leinart, Southern Cal 98
Vince Young, Texas 97
Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt 96
Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green 83
Brodie Croyle, Alabama 79
Charlie Whitehurst, Clemson 76
Darrell Hackney, UAB 73
Kellen Clemens, Oregon 70
Reggie McNeal, Texas A&M 69
Paul Pinegar, Fresno State 61
Brad Smith, Missouri 61
Bruce Gradkowski, Toledo 57
Michael Robinson, Penn State 56
D.J. Shockley, Georgia 54
Drew Olson, UCLA 52

Personally, I think he has Reggie McNeal a little low. Before the season started, he was rated just as high as Vince Young. McNeal has a great arm and showed a lot at the Shrine all-star game by marching the team down for the winning TD while possessing a great arm and decent accuracy.

Hey Ranger, you did weren't the "trainer", were you?

Don't want to offend anyone!

Again factman, another comment regarding Toledo and terrorists that is in poor taste.

dduncan wrote: Personally, I think he has Reggie McNeal a little low. Before the season started, he was rated just as high as Vince Young. McNeal has a great arm and showed a lot at the Shrine all-star game by marching the team down for the winning TD while possessing a great arm and decent accuracy.

I think the thing with McNeal is that there are questions of his character and his ability to be a leader. I think there might've been some off the field stuff with him in year's past, but I'm not sure.

McNeal is a tad short too, he's listed at 6'-2"...I wonder if that's legit.

Here's his scouting report going into the 2005 season:

courtesy of Scout, Inc.

6'2", 195, 4.31-40

Strengths: One of the elite dual-threat QB prospects in college football. Possesses explosive athleticism. Has great quickness in his drop and feet inside the pocket. Will feel the pocket collapsing around him and can get out of danger in a hurry. He has quick feet and exceptional speed. He is a huge threat to run. Buys a lot of second-chance passing opportunities. Is elusive and has very good vision and COD skills as a runner. Shows a second-gear in the open field. He is effective when throwing on the run. Seems to be at his best when creating after the initial play breaks down. He has outstanding arm strength. Can drive the ball downfield in the vertical passing game. He shows the ability to fit the ball into tight spots. Gets great zip on his deep out route. Shows the ability to throw across his body and on the run to both sides. His accuracy has improved greatly. He has cut down on his mental lapses and is doing a much better job of protecting the football. He won't force many throws into coverage. Has an exceptional TD to INT ratio. Is a tough, competitive QB and the type of player that demands respect from his teammates. A hard worker on and off the field.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size. Is on the shorter side and has poor bulk. He takes a lot of hits as a runner. Needs to learn to slide more often and to better protect his body. He has had some durability issues in the past and he's an injury waiting to happen. He can be too impatient as a pocket passer. Takes off and runs too early at times. He doesn't always seem to see the entire field. Has had some trouble in the past protecting the football. Lacks ideal quickness in his release. His mechanics need to be more consistent as a passer. Doesn't show enough touch as a passer. Has some trouble in terms of leading his receivers and letting them run after the catch. He also struggles to change velocity at times. He has some trouble finding passing windows and will have some passes batted down. Still has room to improve in terms of reading coverages in his drops. Needs to make quicker reads and do a more consistent job of beating the blitz with his arm, rather than almost always with his legs.

Overall: McNeal played mostly a backup role as a freshman in 2002 before emerging as a fulltime starter as a sophomore. He started 11 of the 12 games he played in 2003, completing 113-of-221 passes for 1,782 yards with 8 touchdown and 7 interceptions. As a fulltime starter in his junior season in 2004, McNeal passed for 2,791 yards and 14 touchdowns on 200-of-344 passing, while rushing for 718 yards and eight touchdowns on 151 carries. McNeal is one of the most dangerous dual-threat quarterbacks in the nation. He lacks ideal size and he still has a lot of work to do in terms of his mechanics, recognition skills and consistency as a pocket passer. He also takes a lot of hits and needs to protect his body better. However, McNeal's ability to beat you with his legs and his arm makes him tremendously difficult to defend against. He may never emerge as a solid staring quarterback in the NFL, but McNeal could develop into a playmaking backup with the potential to also contribute as a situational wide receiver, return specialist and in other areas of special teams. Regardless, McNeal has a legitimate chance to come off the 2006 draft board late on Day 1.

Here's Omar's, if anyone is interested. Again, BEFORE the 2005 season. He was given a 90 rating out of 100. Now it is currently 83.

6'3 5/8, 224

Strengths: Possesses ideal NFL measurables. He has great size. Is tall, well-built, long arms and big hands. He has good arm strength. He shows good touch and the ability to change velocities. He throws catchable passes underneath and has a feel for leading his receivers. Extremely accurate in short-to-intermediate range. Lacks vertical passing experience but has the arm to make all the NFL throws. Can drive the ball downfield. Shows good zip on the deep out route and gets adequate R.P.M.'s on his downfield throws. He's an excellent athlete. Has quick feet and can get set quickly. Shows a good pocket presence and buys a lot of second-chance opportunities with his athleticism. He is a threat to take off and run. Has above average speed and some elusiveness to make defenders miss in space. A confident player that will bounce back from mistakes.

Weaknesses: Displays mechanical issues. Is unpolished. Does not possess great experience throwing the deep ball and his timing must improve in that area. Lacks ideal patience in the pocket at times and will take off running too early. Plays in a simplified offense with a simplified passing scheme. Most of his throws are underneath. He will have a steeper learning curve in terms of making reads and seeing the entire field as an NFL quarterback.

Overall: Played sparingly as a backup to Josh Harris (Browns) in 2003. Took over as a fulltime starter as a sophomore in 2004, when he threw for 4,002 yards and rushed for 300 more. He completed 66.9-percent of his 462 passing attempts and threw 46 TD passes compared to just four INT's on the season. Jacobs is a junior in 2005 and has not indicated what his intentions are regarding his NFL future. Jacobs has all the physical tools to develop into a starting quarterback at the NFL level. He has great size, as well as good arm strength and mobility. He is an accurate short-to-intermediate passer and has developed into a solid decision-maker. Jacobs will, however, need a lot of work in order to polish his game for the next level. His release point is too low and his consistency as a deep-ball passer needs to improve. He also comes from a pass-friendly, shotgun-oriented offensive scheme, which means he could require more developmental time than other quarterback prospects with similar skill sets. As it stands right now, Jacobs is considered a potential first round prospect should he choose to enter the 2006 draft.

Hey warthog-
The "trainer" is the military guy that worked undercover and turned them in!!! Since RR is a military guy, it might well be. A hero, in my book!!
You might want to look at some of your own comments concerning DD!

factman wrote:Hey warthog-
The "trainer" is the military guy that worked undercover and turned them in!!! Since RR is a military guy, it might well be. A hero, in my book!!
You might want to look at some of your own comments concerning DD!

I think you are mistaken about my comments. While I may be critical of Dakich's performance, never have used his name or referred to him in poor taste.

No, I am not the "Trainer". However..............

The Claymore Mine. The Claymore projects a fan-shaped pattern of steel balls in a 60-degree horizontal arc, at a maximum height of 2 meters, and covers a casualty radius of 100 meters. The optimum effective range (the range at which the most desirable balance is achieved between lethality and area coverage) is 50 meters. The forward danger radius for friendly forces is 250 meters. The backblast area is unsafe in unprotected areas 16 meters to the rear and sides of the munition. Friendly personnel within 100 meters to the rear and sides of the munition should be in a covered position to be safe from secondary missiles.

If I was training those three idiots on the proper use of the Claymore mine, I would have made sure the "FRONT TOWARD ENEMY" would have been directly pointed at them.