Omar has good combine workout

dduncan · Post by **dduncan** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:22 pm

From listening to the guys at the NFL network, Omar looked really good at the passing drills, one of the best QBs. I guess it's not very surprising, but good to hear.

He also ran an unoffical time of 4.83 40, which is about where he was projected. Still very good for a QB 6'3 and over 200 lbs.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:23 pm

yeah, he did really well. the guys on the network said that he did just as good as anyone.

FalconFanKM · Post by **FalconFanKM** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:37 pm

I like that Omar is doing well. I hope he can keep it up. I'm sure he'll be fine.

dduncan · Post by **dduncan** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:56 pm

Word is that Vince Young scored a 6 on his wonderlic. A 6!

That's about as bad as I've seen for a QB. Here are some past scores:

http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm

always a falcon · Post by **always a falcon** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:49 pm

dduncan wrote:Word is that Vince Young scored a 6 on his wonderlic. A 6!

That's about as bad as I've seen for a QB. Here are some past scores:

http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm

Help us uninitiated.....Just what IS the Wonderlic, why is it so important, and how the heck could someone get a 6 vs. all those scores on the list?

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:53 pm

always a falcon wrote:Help us uninitiated.....Just what IS the Wonderlic, why is it so important, and how the heck could someone get a 6 vs. all those scores on the list?

it's a test they give players at the combine, I think it's a basic aptitude-type test, though you get 12 minutes to answer 50 questions. I don't know the practical application, really, but they say if you score less than 10, you're likely developmentally delayed (but apparently, still eligible to collect your millions)

EDIT: (courtesy deadspin.com, via something called "Wizard of Odds"):
"The average score for a player at the combine is 19. The average score overall — hundreds of corporations use the Wonderlic — is 21. But a score under 10 is an indication of literacy problems. Former Iowa State running back Darren Davis reportedly has the record for lowest score, a 4. Former Florida State kicker Sebastian Janikowski reportedly got a 9."

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:57 pm

TG1996 wrote:
always a falcon wrote:
dduncan wrote:Word is that Vince Young scored a 6 on his wonderlic. A 6!

That's about as bad as I've seen for a QB. Here are some past scores:

http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm
Help us uninitiated.....Just what IS the Wonderlic, why is it so important, and how the heck could someone get a 6 vs. all those scores on the list?
it's a test they give QB's (or does everyone get it?) at the combine, I think it's a basic aptitude-type test, though you get 12 minutes to answer 50 questions. I don't know the practical application, really, but they say if you score less than 10, you're likely developmentally delayed (but apparently, still eligible to collect your millions)

I think everyone takes it. I think it's very similar to an IQ test. You have to answer a bunch of questions in a short period of time to test your reasoning and cognitive skills. Somebody correct me if I'm way off base.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:02 pm

BGGrad01 wrote: I think everyone takes it. I think it's very similar to an IQ test. You have to answer a bunch of questions in a short period of time to test your reasoning and cognitive skills. Somebody correct me if I'm way off base.

Yeah, I think everyone takes it (as I discovered when I grabbed the deadspin quote), but I think they weight it more heavily on how a QB does on it. (Josh reportedly got a 25.)

saves · Post by **saves** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:27 pm

BGGrad01 wrote:
TG1996 wrote:
always a falcon wrote:
dduncan wrote:Word is that Vince Young scored a 6 on his wonderlic. A 6!

That's about as bad as I've seen for a QB. Here are some past scores:

http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm
Help us uninitiated.....Just what IS the Wonderlic, why is it so important, and how the heck could someone get a 6 vs. all those scores on the list?
it's a test they give QB's (or does everyone get it?) at the combine, I think it's a basic aptitude-type test, though you get 12 minutes to answer 50 questions. I don't know the practical application, really, but they say if you score less than 10, you're likely developmentally delayed (but apparently, still eligible to collect your millions)
I think everyone takes it. I think it's very similar to an IQ test. You have to answer a bunch of questions in a short period of time to test your reasoning and cognitive skills. Somebody correct me if I'm way off base.

Its is a combination of a personality test and an IQ test. Most teams have their own test they give players, but for QB and OL the wonderlic is pretty important, but should not be overvalued. That said, a 6 is horrible, but the most recent news is that it was a scoring error and we will know later this week if it is correct or not.

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:22 pm

While he threw the ball well most of the day, it is apparent Omar Jacobs needs a lot of work. After taking snaps almost exclusively from the shotgun the past two years at Bowling Green, Jacobs footwork was horrid when simulating a drop into the pocket this afternoon.

This is what Scout.com had to say. Not the best news. I don't think Omar helped himself on Sunday. He may be looking at round 6 or 7 now?

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Buffalo Falcon · Post by **Buffalo Falcon** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:41 am

I saw his workout and thought he looked pretty good. They said he has a strange release which everyone knows by now. But that his throws were right on target. I didn't notice any real issues with his footwork. I heard Jeff Fisher the Titans coach on the radio yesterday. They were asking him about Vince Young's footwork and what he bascically said was even though Young took most of his snaps from the shotgun footwork was something that can be coached easily. He wasn't concerned about it at all. I think too much is being made about all of this. Alex Smith last year was the first overall pick playing in the same type of offense as ours. I agree coaching Omar on his footwork seems something much easier then changing his throwing mechanics which scouts talk about.

dduncan · Post by **dduncan** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:01 am

Its is a combination of a personality test and an IQ test. Most teams have their own test they give players, but for QB and OL the wonderlic is pretty important, but should not be overvalued. That said, a 6 is horrible, but the most recent news is that it was a scoring error and we will know later this week if it is correct or not.

You are correct, the person grading the test screwed up and before it was confirmed that the 6 was due to a grading error, the rumor already leaked out. Not sure what his real score was, but he'll probably be able to take it again. Here are some more scores from last year's group, including Scott Mruczkowski.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NF ... lic.htm#qb

UK Peregrine · Post by **UK Peregrine** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:44 am

Assortment of Omar articles:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl- ... orts-front

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 2/1067/SPT

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercuryn ... 963695.htm

MACMAN · Post by **MACMAN** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:54 am

well I agree Omar had a great work out and i dont know if any of you caught the coment about Omars motion, where they properly defined his motiion. Not a side arm, but a push or half throw and all he has to "fix it" is bring the ball back further and elevate his throwig motion.
Good news is his stock rose Accoding to a couple of different sources, this one is one of the most optimistic, most i saw had him 2nd round solidly.
anyone eles got information on potential rounds. My guess is a RD two early
16 MIA *Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green 6'5 225
With doubt toward the future at the QB position for the Dolphins, the selection of Jacobs could put those worries to rest. To some this could be a reach by the Dolphins but the upside Jacobs possesses prototype size for the QB position along with enough mobility to have defenses weary of his running ability. Omar showed exceptional accuracy to his passes and stands tall and confident in the pocket. Who throws a high velocity pass with good touch and placement to his balls as well. He exhibits leadership on the field and commands respect from his fellow offensive players, with his knowledge for the game and playmaking ability. Without question Jacobs shows the franchise skills to take Miami to another level. Though there are questions about his low delivery and awkward throwing style. I would have liked to see Omar return for one more season in college to refine his skills, but had he not come out early the Dolphins would never have sniffed him this early in the draft.

tekekini · Post by **tekekini** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:06 pm

MACMAN wrote:well I agree Omar had a great work out and i dont know if any of you caught the coment about Omars motion, where they properly defined his motiion. Not a side arm, but a push or half throw and all he has to "fix it" is bring the ball back further and elevate his throwig motion.
Good news is his stock rose Accoding to a couple of different sources, this one is one of the most optimistic, most i saw had him 2nd round solidly.
anyone eles got information on potential rounds. My guess is a RD two early
16 MIA *Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green 6'5 225
With doubt toward the future at the QB position for the Dolphins, the selection of Jacobs could put those worries to rest. To some this could be a reach by the Dolphins but the upside Jacobs possesses prototype size for the QB position along with enough mobility to have defenses weary of his running ability. Omar showed exceptional accuracy to his passes and stands tall and confident in the pocket. Who throws a high velocity pass with good touch and placement to his balls as well. He exhibits leadership on the field and commands respect from his fellow offensive players, with his knowledge for the game and playmaking ability. Without question Jacobs shows the franchise skills to take Miami to another level. Though there are questions about his low delivery and awkward throwing style. I would have liked to see Omar return for one more season in college to refine his skills, but had he not come out early the Dolphins would never have sniffed him this early in the draft.

I'd be ok with that but it wont happen...too many pro bowl QB's that will be free agents.

Culpepper and drew brees to name a few.

Miami is going to end up with them and work on Defense and o-line in the draft. they are getting old on D and they need a little help on o-line