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Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:54 pm**

http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stor ... from_rss=1

Looks like NCAA is starting to hit D1 universities where is hurts in terms of academic performance.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:02 pm**

Temple loses 9, UT loses 6, WMU loses 5!!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2349787

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:07 pm**

Here's a nice summary.

Eight schools will lose scholarships. Four are members of the MAC; a fifth will be a member come 2007. Nice.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:08 pm**

I thought Temple and Buffalo were supposed to be strong Academic enhancements to the MAC?

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:23 pm**

BGDrew wrote:I thought Temple and Buffalo were supposed to be strong Academic enhancements to the MAC?

The stronger the academic university, the more athletes that won't meet the standards. Also, typically the stronger academic, the more difficult it is to recruit top athletes.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:29 pm**

BGDrew wrote:I thought Temple and Buffalo were supposed to be strong Academic enhancements to the MAC?

Temple isn't really that strong of academic instituition IMO.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:29 pm**

2 Basketball schollies for kent...wow. thats 1/6 of a roster.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:08 pm**

Flipper wrote:Temple loses 9, UT loses 6, WMU loses 5!!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2349787

Northern Illinois loses 2 football scholarships as well.

Counting Temple, 5 MAC schools are affected and not one single BCS school is......despite some having APR scores that are under the 925 standard. Does that makes sense?

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:12 pm**

Where was Cincinnati basketball? Did they get a reprieve because they let Huggins go?

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:24 pm**

Does this increase incentives to cheat (e.g., falsify grades)? If so, you don't happen to think the BCS schools would be more likely to do that, do you?

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:30 pm**

I'm sure you guys don't care about Toledo, but here is how this affects UT in football:

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OK, we had 77 players under scholarship this past fall so the loss of 6 scholarships would be 79 players which we fall under.  So no loss there.  Now, the other part of the penalty not mentioned anywhere is that we lose 3 scholarships available for recruits out of the maximum of 25.  So that means we have 22 available and we signed 23 guys.

So if all 23 players show up in August, one player will have to be told that he is getting greyshirted.  He can still play this fall as a walk-on, and then his scholarship would start in January of 2007 and he would count against the 2007 recruiting class.


So, we are not affected by this too much.  Sure, it's bad publicity and one kid will have to be greyshirted but that is it.  Losing 6 scholarships and 3 of your max of 25 scholarships for recruiting in a year sounds a lot worse than what it will effect us.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:03 pm**

we should jumop on that greyshirt, give him a schollie and tell him to kill their QB.

?? Did Nick Lawrence earn a schollie?

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:57 pm**

Man, this really sucks for the MAC Conference. 5 of the 12 schools in the conference are getting hit with sanctions. I think it is quite suspicious that none of the big schools are getting hit where it hurts, especially schools like Mississippi, Alabama, and Mississippi State. You cannot tell me that their institutions are keeping up with standards.

On a better note, this news helps us big time. This rule is rewarding Bowling Green for keeping their athletes on academic progress, and other schools in the conference are getting hurt at the same time. Now Temple and Buffalo were not threats to begin with, but Toledo and Western Michigan losing 6 and 5. Great! Screw the Broncos, I still haven't forgiven them for how they single-handedly screwed our football season when they took out Omar (in front of my family and friends I was a freaking nutcase that day because I couldn't take the subsequent beatdown). Screw Toledo too!

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:12 pm**

bgsufalcon24 wrote:Man, this really sucks for the MAC Conference. 5 of the 12 schools in the conference are getting hit with sanctions. I think it is quite suspicious that none of the big schools are getting hit where it hurts, especially schools like Mississippi, Alabama, and Mississippi State. You cannot tell me that their institutions are keeping up with standards.

On a better note, this news helps us big time. This rule is rewarding Bowling Green for keeping their athletes on academic progress, and other schools in the conference are getting hurt at the same time. Now Temple and Buffalo were not threats to begin with, but Toledo and Western Michigan losing 6 and 5. Great! Screw the Broncos, I still haven't forgiven them for how they single-handedly screwed our football season when they took out Omar (in front of my family and friends I was a freaking nutcase that day because I couldn't take the subsequent beatdown). Screw Toledo too!

There is one problem with this thinking. The original penalty of losing 6 scholarships is not really that bad for a school like Toledo. A perfect example is that we only had 77 kids on scholarship last year. Even with a penalty of losing 6 schollies, we would have had 2 still in the pocket.

The restriction of losing some scholarships like this is really more of a warning by the NCAA to show they are serious. What really will start to hurt a school is if they are still below the 925 standard again next year and get further penalties and possible postseason restrictions/bans. Hopefully Toledo gets their act together enough before anything like that happens, but when something like that happens that will be when you will start to see an effect on a football program.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:15 pm**

bgsufalcon24 wrote:MAC Conference.

AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!

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