How the scouts grade QBs, applied...
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:27 pm
This week's Sports Illustrated has a little sidebar that shows what attributes the scouts use when grading QBs, and what importance they attach to them. I thought it would be interesting to grade Omar (with my own observations) in these categories. They are listed in importance (according to the scouts SI talked to).
1. Arm Strength I know, I know, I don't think it's the most important aspect either. But they had a scout that asked a good question, when was the last time a QB was a star that DIDN'T have a strong arm? I would say that neither Brady nor Brees had strong arms on draft day, but they strengthened them immensely before they became stars.
Omar: 7
I'm giving Omar a 7 in this department. He's got a pretty strong arm in terms of zip on the ball, but I don't think he throws the deep ball particularly well. It's not really a part of our offense, so it's tough to say, but most of his long down-field passes required great catches by the WRs after the ball fluttered a little. FWIW, I probably would've put Big Ben in this category to. I only put freakish arms in the 8+ range (Vick, Favre, Cutler, etc).
2. Football IQ This, to me, is #1. I want a guy that knows the game and knows what to do with the ball in all situations. I'm talking pre-snap and post snap whether things are going good or bad.
Omar: 4
This is the one that Omar REALLY gets knocked down in my grading scale for. I don't like the audible system, and I think it shows that the coaching staff doesn't trust the QB to make his own reads. Perhaps that's egotism on their part, but I'm thinking that they were never really sold on his football IQ. Omar also struggled when plays broke down. He was good when the play went his way (or if the staff audibled), but when his first guys were covered he struggled to make things develop with his feet or finding the checkdowns. This was especially evident when Pope was hurt...he was always the security blanket when Omar didn't like what he saw in '04...not true in '05.
3. Accuracy For me this is #2, again ahead of arm strength. I want a guy that can put the ball on the MONEY. I'm not talking about just completing passes, but also hitting guys in stride for good YAC.
Omar: 9
Omar was the most accurate college passer I saw last year, and the most accurate I've watched since Rivers. The ball not only found his WRs hands with great consistency, but he constantly was hitting guys dead in stride. Accuracy is one trait you are born with and it rarely changes...I think this is his most marketable skill and definitely helps him project as a potential starter. The difference here is where I think Omar becomes a better prospect than J5. In fact, it may be the ONLY one of these categories that Omar has J5 beaten in.
4. Mobility I love a mobile QB. Personally I like the guys that can take off and give you yards on the ground, but the ability to move around in the pocket is even more important in the grand scheme.
Omar: 7
Even though Omar doesn't run much, I'm giving him a high mobility grade. I took points off his football IQ for his indecisiveness in running, so I won't do it here. We all know the kid CAN run when he chooses to. He does do a good job moving around in the pocket when there are bodies near by as well.
5. Leadership This is the one of these categories that is likely not the most important, but being stellar here can trump a lot of other deficiencies. Especially a guy that can put his team on his shoulders and will them to victory...I'm a big fan of QBs with that intangible ability.
Omar: 3
This is the only category in which I think Omar is below average. He didn't show the ability to carry the team late in games. Nor did we ever really pull off a major upset in his tenure. Heck we even struggled to win some games that we should've won. I really think Omar is a quiet personality, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not what I want in a QB. You hate to ding a player for personality, something they really have no control over, but in reality leadership ability is something you're born with and I just don't see it from Omar.
6. Toughness You want a guy that can take the pops and bounce back up. You need a guy who will play through pain as an example and a leader to the rest of the guys.
Omar: 6
I really don't have much basis for this. I don't think Omar was touched more than 10-15 times his SO year, and he came back in about average time from his injury this past season. So I'll give him a 6, which is about average, IMO.
7. Résumé Obviously you want guys that had success on the college level. Did you win? Did you put up big numbers? Did you make your teammates better? What was the competition like?
Omar: 8
Omar had one of the greatest seasons a college QB has ever had, statistically. He put up just insane numbers and ran the offense as well as can be imagined. He played equally well against tougher competition like OU & Wisconsin as he did against the dregs of the college football world. The only thing that keeps this from being a perfect score is because his résumé also shows that he played in our spread option offense from the shotgun all day. That makes a big difference in projectability so he loses 2 points for that.
8. Maturity This is probably just the Ryan Leaf category. Do your teammates respect you and can you be counted on in crunch time?
Omar: 9
Don't really know what to say here. Omar seems pretty mature and seems to have good focus & direction. The only reason this isn't a perfect score is because some scouts are going to question why he left early. Was he just chasing a paycheck, and will he let up when he gets it? I think this is a pretty wierd category as probably 95% of the guys will get a top score, and a few others will get very low scores. You're either mature, or you're not...
9. Pedigree Apparently a lot of scouts like QBs who had parents with football pedigrees. Were they players, coaches, etc?
Omar: ??
I really don't know his geneology. Does Omar have former NFL players in his family? I have no clue, really, so I'll give him an incomplete. I don't recall hearing about any, but I could be just mistaken.
10. Hand Size Like pedigree I think these bottom coule are just real nitpicky things, but I can see where you're going here. Culpepper's biggest knock was handsize and look how he fumbles the ball. Hand size comes into play more than we think.
Omar: 9
I haven't measured, so I cannot give a 10, but just from looking at picks the ball looks miniscule when in his grip. I'm not sure that he doesn't have some of the biggest hands around for QBs.
In all Omar grades out pretty well in most categories, but in my estimation I can see why he's rated lower than what some may want to believe. Football IQ is very important to nearly everyone, and we just haven't seen that much evidence that he's above average there. Leadership is another one of the top 5 attributes, and again he's not shown what you want to see in that. However, the physical categories I think he grades out very well in nearly all of them, and that still makes him a reasonable pick in the 3rd/4th round. It should be noted that where his stock is going to fluctuate from team to team, IMO, is the résumé category. I give him an 8, because I think what he did on the field was pretty remarkable for the most part. Still, I think there are teams that will discount almost all of what he did statistically because of the combo of system & competition faced. Having both of those as knocks could hurt the grade in a lot of scouts' eyes.
Another thing that I noted was that mechanics was not mentioned in the grading scale. I really don't think that most talent evaluators care too much about mechanics. If you get the ball out quickly & accurately, with adequate zip, then they don't care how you throw it. Only if it resulted in batted passes, inaccuracy, or arm troubles would it really be an issue, IMO.
Well feel free to add your own evals, I just thought I'd throw it out there. FWIW, Omar graded out as an average of 6.9 (I basically threw pedigree out the window). That seems pretty good to me, but should be noted that the average is a little less at 6.0 for what are deemed the top 5 most important categories. Of course this is just my opinion...
1. Arm Strength I know, I know, I don't think it's the most important aspect either. But they had a scout that asked a good question, when was the last time a QB was a star that DIDN'T have a strong arm? I would say that neither Brady nor Brees had strong arms on draft day, but they strengthened them immensely before they became stars.
Omar: 7
I'm giving Omar a 7 in this department. He's got a pretty strong arm in terms of zip on the ball, but I don't think he throws the deep ball particularly well. It's not really a part of our offense, so it's tough to say, but most of his long down-field passes required great catches by the WRs after the ball fluttered a little. FWIW, I probably would've put Big Ben in this category to. I only put freakish arms in the 8+ range (Vick, Favre, Cutler, etc).
2. Football IQ This, to me, is #1. I want a guy that knows the game and knows what to do with the ball in all situations. I'm talking pre-snap and post snap whether things are going good or bad.
Omar: 4
This is the one that Omar REALLY gets knocked down in my grading scale for. I don't like the audible system, and I think it shows that the coaching staff doesn't trust the QB to make his own reads. Perhaps that's egotism on their part, but I'm thinking that they were never really sold on his football IQ. Omar also struggled when plays broke down. He was good when the play went his way (or if the staff audibled), but when his first guys were covered he struggled to make things develop with his feet or finding the checkdowns. This was especially evident when Pope was hurt...he was always the security blanket when Omar didn't like what he saw in '04...not true in '05.
3. Accuracy For me this is #2, again ahead of arm strength. I want a guy that can put the ball on the MONEY. I'm not talking about just completing passes, but also hitting guys in stride for good YAC.
Omar: 9
Omar was the most accurate college passer I saw last year, and the most accurate I've watched since Rivers. The ball not only found his WRs hands with great consistency, but he constantly was hitting guys dead in stride. Accuracy is one trait you are born with and it rarely changes...I think this is his most marketable skill and definitely helps him project as a potential starter. The difference here is where I think Omar becomes a better prospect than J5. In fact, it may be the ONLY one of these categories that Omar has J5 beaten in.
4. Mobility I love a mobile QB. Personally I like the guys that can take off and give you yards on the ground, but the ability to move around in the pocket is even more important in the grand scheme.
Omar: 7
Even though Omar doesn't run much, I'm giving him a high mobility grade. I took points off his football IQ for his indecisiveness in running, so I won't do it here. We all know the kid CAN run when he chooses to. He does do a good job moving around in the pocket when there are bodies near by as well.
5. Leadership This is the one of these categories that is likely not the most important, but being stellar here can trump a lot of other deficiencies. Especially a guy that can put his team on his shoulders and will them to victory...I'm a big fan of QBs with that intangible ability.
Omar: 3
This is the only category in which I think Omar is below average. He didn't show the ability to carry the team late in games. Nor did we ever really pull off a major upset in his tenure. Heck we even struggled to win some games that we should've won. I really think Omar is a quiet personality, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not what I want in a QB. You hate to ding a player for personality, something they really have no control over, but in reality leadership ability is something you're born with and I just don't see it from Omar.
6. Toughness You want a guy that can take the pops and bounce back up. You need a guy who will play through pain as an example and a leader to the rest of the guys.
Omar: 6
I really don't have much basis for this. I don't think Omar was touched more than 10-15 times his SO year, and he came back in about average time from his injury this past season. So I'll give him a 6, which is about average, IMO.
7. Résumé Obviously you want guys that had success on the college level. Did you win? Did you put up big numbers? Did you make your teammates better? What was the competition like?
Omar: 8
Omar had one of the greatest seasons a college QB has ever had, statistically. He put up just insane numbers and ran the offense as well as can be imagined. He played equally well against tougher competition like OU & Wisconsin as he did against the dregs of the college football world. The only thing that keeps this from being a perfect score is because his résumé also shows that he played in our spread option offense from the shotgun all day. That makes a big difference in projectability so he loses 2 points for that.
8. Maturity This is probably just the Ryan Leaf category. Do your teammates respect you and can you be counted on in crunch time?
Omar: 9
Don't really know what to say here. Omar seems pretty mature and seems to have good focus & direction. The only reason this isn't a perfect score is because some scouts are going to question why he left early. Was he just chasing a paycheck, and will he let up when he gets it? I think this is a pretty wierd category as probably 95% of the guys will get a top score, and a few others will get very low scores. You're either mature, or you're not...
9. Pedigree Apparently a lot of scouts like QBs who had parents with football pedigrees. Were they players, coaches, etc?
Omar: ??
I really don't know his geneology. Does Omar have former NFL players in his family? I have no clue, really, so I'll give him an incomplete. I don't recall hearing about any, but I could be just mistaken.
10. Hand Size Like pedigree I think these bottom coule are just real nitpicky things, but I can see where you're going here. Culpepper's biggest knock was handsize and look how he fumbles the ball. Hand size comes into play more than we think.
Omar: 9
I haven't measured, so I cannot give a 10, but just from looking at picks the ball looks miniscule when in his grip. I'm not sure that he doesn't have some of the biggest hands around for QBs.
In all Omar grades out pretty well in most categories, but in my estimation I can see why he's rated lower than what some may want to believe. Football IQ is very important to nearly everyone, and we just haven't seen that much evidence that he's above average there. Leadership is another one of the top 5 attributes, and again he's not shown what you want to see in that. However, the physical categories I think he grades out very well in nearly all of them, and that still makes him a reasonable pick in the 3rd/4th round. It should be noted that where his stock is going to fluctuate from team to team, IMO, is the résumé category. I give him an 8, because I think what he did on the field was pretty remarkable for the most part. Still, I think there are teams that will discount almost all of what he did statistically because of the combo of system & competition faced. Having both of those as knocks could hurt the grade in a lot of scouts' eyes.
Another thing that I noted was that mechanics was not mentioned in the grading scale. I really don't think that most talent evaluators care too much about mechanics. If you get the ball out quickly & accurately, with adequate zip, then they don't care how you throw it. Only if it resulted in batted passes, inaccuracy, or arm troubles would it really be an issue, IMO.
Well feel free to add your own evals, I just thought I'd throw it out there. FWIW, Omar graded out as an average of 6.9 (I basically threw pedigree out the window). That seems pretty good to me, but should be noted that the average is a little less at 6.0 for what are deemed the top 5 most important categories. Of course this is just my opinion...