Is Freddie are new QB?

bgmaggot00 · Post by **bgmaggot00** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:08 am

So after seeing what Freddie could do tonight, should AT be looking forward to a career of holding a clipboard on the sideline?

svillefalcon · Post by **svillefalcon** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:23 am

i think we should let him get some more PT, i say we let him play the Fuffalo game bc it wont matter which guy we have under center, we will beat up on fuffalo

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:47 am

Barnes is no threat whatsoever to throw the ball. Any team that watched this game will be able to scheme a defense to stop him because they won't have to worry about the pass at all. I am not dissing Freddie, he played a great game tonight. I just don't think Wisconsin realized that was what they would see tonight after we passed on nearly every down last year. Freddie's an athlete that we need to get on the field. I just think the team will be much better with Turner at QB and Freddie some where else.

Falconboy · Post by **Falconboy** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:46 am

Warthog wrote:Barnes is no threat whatsoever to throw the ball. Any team that watched this game will be able to scheme a defense to stop him because they won't have to worry about the pass at all. I am not dissing Freddie, he played a great game tonight. I just don't think Wisconsin realized that was what they would see tonight after we passed on nearly every down last year. Freddie's an athlete that we need to get on the field. I just think the team will be much better with Turner at QB and Freddie some where else.

Agreed, Freddie just doen't have the passing skills to keep defenses honost.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:41 am

Put Turner in already, Barnes isnt a true QB.

ZuluWarrior · Post by **ZuluWarrior** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:10 am

I think we're being a little hard on Freddie. This is the first time in quite a few years we haven't had a plethora of stud receivers.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:17 am

ZuluWarrior wrote:This is the first time in quite a few years we haven't had a plethora of stud receivers.

Agreed. So let's see what happens next week with Turner and hopefully Partridge back in the lineup.

Falcon30 · Post by **Falcon30** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:57 am

I don't think Freddie is OUR QB.

He can't pass accurately.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:00 am

This poll question doesn't really work because Barnes isn't a QB. Bielema even said it in his halftime interview. "Barnes is their tailback back there". I think we ran about 15 different QB runs, and about 3 different pass plays, none more than 10-15 yards down the field. I think it worked because Wisconsin's players were still subconsciously waiting for Omar to appear and start burning them for deep posts again.

He might be our best tailback. I want to see Turner at QB, with Macon and Freddie flanking him. Defend that, MAC.

mmisbg · Post by **mmisbg** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:19 am

I don't think the question is whether or not Freddie is ready to be our QB. I think the question is whether or not Turner would do better.

I'm keeping in mind a few things: a lot of interceptions were thrown by AT, experienced recievers are gone, Wisconsin's defense is far away better than the three that AT saw, Freddie is a reshirt Freshman who played his first game last night.

Yeah, it was hard to see plays develop from the enzone (yes, I'm still bitter), but I want Freddie to play a few more games before we consider putting AT back in.

Freddie was 12 for 19 throwing 82 yards and no interceptions. A 63% completion rate isn't bad, and he was playing Wisky's defense. Give him some time to get comfortable, and some experience thowing the ball downfield against some of these cake teams we play the next few weeks. We might be surprised.

Thing is, we aren't going to have a QB that lights up the sky like Omar did either way. I will say that I'm glad that we have the explosive athleticism back at the QB position. We have to admit that Omar did not have that.

Go Falcons!

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:22 am

We know just from the gameplan (and the Spring game) that Freddie can not throw the ball downfield. I want to see if Turner can. We cant beat Miami or Toledo by only throwing ten yard outs and screen passes.

mmisbg · Post by **mmisbg** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:33 am

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:We cant beat Miami or Toledo by only throwing ten yard outs and screen passes.

I don't necessarily agree, but I see your point.

Thing is, he didn't have experienced guys to throw to, Wisky's defense is way better than Toledo or Miami will have, and we have more than half the season before we need to worry about that.

I still say patience.

Go Falcons!

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:41 am

You people are sooooo blind. Freddie Barnes is the new COle Magner. Magner played WR, S, P and QB during his tiome here. Freddie will probably wind up doing something along those lines here also.

Say what you will about his passing (and he does not throw a good deep ball) he was still 12-18 with no INT's. It's not like he was horrid out there. He showed some real leadership abilites and the team seemed to be behind him 100%....we struggled with that a bit last year...I don't know that everyone was behind AT when Omar got hurt. And I don't mean that as a knock on AT.

Spart43 · Post by **Spart43** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:36 am

Great Game Freddie! You did everything you could and never gave up.

AT is back next week and we will see what he has learned over the summer and how he has improved. Lets give him a chance before we pass judgement on who should be our starter. We will always have Freddie to fall back to if AT begins to have problems. AT my come out next week and set the place on fire.

brewer · Post by **brewer** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:43 am

I'm firmly in the camp of getting an extended look at Anthony Turner at QB, with Barnes in some kind of "slash" type role. That said, I think some folks are being too quick to write off Barnes ability to play QB.

There were a couple passes last night that when he let them go, I took a deep breath because there didn't appear to be ANYONE open. Both times he drilled completed passes nicely into tight coverage.

One or two his incompletions probably should have been caught. On one deeper ball he threw down the left sideline, the receiver (Charles I believe) got tangled up with the DB about the time the ball was released and couldn't finish his route. The pass sailed over everyone looking awful, but that one really wasn’t Freddie's fault.

That leaves maybe 2 or 3 bad passes. I don't think any of them came close to being picked. I realize virtually all the attempts were short passes. But for his first collegiate game, against one of the better Big 10 programs, with very little receiver experience, a new feature RB behind him, I think he did quite well.

People on here are defending the freshman punter (and probably rightly so) because of the formation our coaching staff is putting in place, are then willing to assume that the r-freshman Barnes can't throw deep because that same staff didn't put it in his first game plan, against a pretty darn good opponent. That seems a bit contradictory to me.

Admittedly, the deep passing game isn't there with Barnes at QB right now. And I agree we can't get by running QB draws and short out patterns all the time. After what we've seen the last several years, that's a big change for us (and we're probably a bit spoiled in this regard). But there are a lot of reasons behind that, it's just one game, and I just don't think it translates into "Freddie Barnes can't throw deep".

Barnes did look very so-so in the spring game. So did AT, with the same offense. Compare that to how AT looked in the 05 spring game with more experienced skill players around him. It's a night and day difference.

Also, quite frankly, if we judged the QB and deep passing ability of Josh Harris based on how he looked at the position as a Freshman, he too would have been permanently moved to RB. But he did all right for himself in the long run.

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