You Guys are Clueless

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How can you guys be asking for a new coach already? The guy has won 2 bowl games in the last 3 seasons and took BG to the MACC game (all of which Urban never did). You guys are insane. It is true we are very young this year, lots of inexperience. Let me let you in on a little secret... its called a REBUILDING year. The more experience these kids gain the better they will get. They just dont know what it takes to win. They dont get it yet. That doesn't mean they wont get it. However, it might take them a little longer because they are young. But calling for his head because of a slow start to the year is crazy. Although we are young the problem does not lie with the youngsters. They do what they are told. The problem is they are learning from horrible, horrible upper classmen. There is a reason a guy has never played until his 5th year... its because he is horrible! The whole senior class is full of these worthless players. These are the guys the younger players are learning from and looking up to. They dont know what it takes to win because they never have. Once they are gone and the young players can take over it will be a drastic improvement.

In regards to coach Brandon's comments on Corey and Devon. If he said it then it is true. He is the coach and if he cant call out his so called leaders and best players then something is wrong. I dont care if the balls are way over thrown or not if you are a big time player you make a play and get everyone else around you to make a play. The team is leaderless and when the supposed leaders are not doing what they are supposed to be doing then they should be called out. Playing hurt is what football is all about. If you are 100% in a game then you arent playing the right way. Never do you feel 100% its the ones that can handle the pain and play through it are the great ones. Looking at his numbers it appears Corey cant play very well hurt. If thats the case he should sit down until he is healthy because he is just hurting the team. As for Devon he has always been lazy taking plays off. Not something you want to see from your captain and defensive leader.
I just cant take listening to you guys who obviously have no idea about sports demand a new coach due to inexperience, lack of talent, and absolutely no pride what so ever. The seniors (urban's junk) will be gone soon and then the young guys can take over. There is nothing wrong with the system its like the system we had in 2001. We ran it a whole lot more than we threw it. But with the lack of leadership the players will fail everytime. Coaches arent on the field so it definately falls on the players. Heck we won games back then with the same system with Cole Magner at QB. The key was we had much more talented players LEADING the way not willing to lay down. So you guys just need to relax and trying giving some support. If you haven't noticed the entire MAC is completely horrible and any team can beat any team any time. But stay positive and we will rebuild and return to dominance.
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Falconballer wrote:How can you guys be asking for a new coach already? The guy has won 2 bowl games in the last 3 seasons and took BG to the MACC game (all of which Urban never did).
Falconballer wrote:The seniors (urban's junk) will be gone soon and then the young guys can take over.
Urban didn't do anything like that because he still had Blackney's junk. By the time GB took over, he had Urban's recruits. However, I do agree with you that this team needs time to grow. I will still be at the games. I have faith in this team. We are just so used to things being better the last few years, we are over-reacting about things. Give it time...if in a year or two, things are still like this, you can bash me then.

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I agree that we're young and I do think the future is bright (even if GB is at the helm). We have too much young talent to nose dive to the bottom of the MAC for 3-4 years. I agree with you that we have a class of seniors that has provided essentially nothing on the field and I agree that this is not the time to drop support for this team. These young guys need our support now more than ever. GB deserves some serious heat for the early season performance. Maybe not as much as he is getting, but he deserves to get some negative feedback here.

I whoreheartedly disagree with your assessment of Corey Partridge. And I'm not saying that because his parents post here. Steve Smith could not have made more than 3 catches with the balls thrown Corey's way yesterday. It was a miracle that he even tipped a couple of them. To say that he plays poorly while in pain disregards the fact that he was our leading receiver against FIU. If Corey Partridge had two broken hands I would trust him to catch a laser over the middle over any of our other receivers. He is one of our best football players and he played very well yesterday. He got no help from his QBs.
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I'm with Metz. While I agree things are not going well, I don't think the "abandon ship" attitude is going to help at all. No one here has the ability (and money) to get rid of Brandon. I still remember that Brandon is still in his infancy of being a head coach.

Throwing Corey under the bus was uncalled for though, and I do hope he's called out on it tomorrow at the Coach's Show.

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Sorry...I see it totally different. I see a guy who inherited guys that had been well coached. These guys also had a leader in Urban Meyer that instilled a winning attitude. Urban didn't need superstars to win. He knew how to get the most out of the talent that he had. Urban got the momentum going and then Brandon took over. He had success because of what was handed down to him. Now that the majority of Meyers influences are gone and Brandon's influences are strong, there is no resemblence of a winning program and winning attitude left. A good coach takes the reigns of a good program and improves the program or at least sustains the success. Brandon has gotten worse each year. The Juniors and Seniors are his recruits. Brandon may be a great offensive coordinator but he is not a good head coach. A head coach has to be able to manage a game and when things get tight, he should be able to rally his troups and make the necessary adjustments. You see can see it in the eyes of the players. Maybe they have no leaders on the field, but he is also not doing a good job of leading them himself. He's been complaining about leadership for a couple of years now, maybe he's the one doing a bad job of empowering those that have a true leadership ability.

Brandon continues to make ridiculous comments after every loss and if anyone is clueless...it would be him.
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BelieveNBG wrote: The Juniors and Seniors are his recruits.
You are forgetting that one of his recruiting classes was severely hampered by Urban Meyer leaving early.
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Falconballer wrote:How can you guys be asking for a new coach already? The guy has won 2 bowl games in the last 3 seasons and took BG to the MACC game (all of which Urban never did).
Same freakin' argument people used last year as an excuse when some of us were hoping for Brandon's resignation. How long does he get to have a pass because he won two meaningless bowl games?
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No bowl game BG plays is meaningless to me.

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Let's not go overboard...those bowl wins were pretty sweet. I think thye were both as big or bigger than Blackney's wins in the Raisin and Vegas Bowls.

I think it's fair to look at they way the team responded to adversity this year and last year and question how the coaches are preparing the team.

It has taken us five home games from the middle of 2005 on to lose twice as many at home games as the previous four years COMBINED. That is not something to take lightly or dismiss easily....
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Warthog wrote:
Falconballer wrote:How can you guys be asking for a new coach already? The guy has won 2 bowl games in the last 3 seasons and took BG to the MACC game (all of which Urban never did).
Same freakin' argument people used last year as an excuse when some of us were hoping for Brandon's resignation. How long does he get to have a pass because he won two meaningless bowl games?
Excuse me, but get a freakin grip. Meaningless? They sure as hell weren't meaningless around here when we were winning 9-10 games and playing in them. And if those games are meaningless, I guess we don't have anything to look forward to as BG fans, because the MCB and GMAC Bowl are the only realistic avenues a MAC team has for the post-season. It's so frusturating to read crap like that here. You people spend months looking forward to the season then do nothing but bitch once it gets here. We lost a game, big deal, it happens. I'm disappointed too, but please just take the losses with a grain of salt and enjoy the season. Reading the how dire all of these posts are, an outsider would think our football program is on the verge of being abolished. If people are really as upset as it seems over this, they have a troubling obsession with a bunch of 18-22 year-old kids and it's unhealthy. They are college students with their own problems, and big deal they had a bad day. They can't take food off your table, and Gregg Brandon is not out to make your life miserable. End rant.
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NY-BG-FAN wrote:and Gregg Brandon is not out to make your life miserable. End rant.
Well he's doing a hell of a good job of it without even trying then :)

I thought the MCB was a good accomplishment, and was happy to make it there. Miami(OH) was just a more talented team than us, plain & simple. I wasn't convinced that Brandon was a great head coach at the time, but he did get the job done for the most part. Hindsight makes it look like it was a lot more of Urban's attitude instilled in the team, than Brandon's leadership, but still he gets credit for getting them there.

The GMAC bowl was a meaningless bowl to me, because we didn't deserve a bowl game. The ONLY reason we got in that bowl game was the flukey season where there were barely enough bowl eligible teams to fill all the bowls, thanks in large part to a brawl with 2 schools forfeiting their bowl bids.
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How about saying something like this:

"As I said to players and our staff, in all phases there wasn't one phase that was acceptable. From penalties, kicking game penalties, field position there, offensive execution, turnovers, penalties there, jumping offside on defense, the ball went over our head. In all areas. And that goes back to me. That's No. 1. It's nobody else. It's the preparation; I have to go back to the preparation and the details and I'll leave it at that. That's all on me. We have to go back and see the film but when we're not hustling, when we're not sprinting to our standards, that reflects me and what I believe in and I've not gotten it across correctly. It's not their fault its my fault, 100-percent."
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Meaningless in that fact that we did not win a MAC championship either year. Is that better? :oops:
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With all due respect FalconBaller, I believe that you are a little off with your comments. First of all, to say that we know nothing about sports is crazy. I am a coach and know good coaching when I see it. I don't see it with Coach Brandon as I did with Coach Meyer. He is not a good leader himself. It is not right for him to call out players in the media. It is alright to call them out in practice in front of the other players, but not to the media. Keep all of that stuff in house. You can't make plays if the ball isn't catchable, or your not thrown too. Cory Partridge is playing with an injury that can get worse if he isn't careful, and he has played hurt for most of his BG career. The kid is giving it everything he can for BG and Coach Brandon. And one more thing. It's not a SECRET that we are rebuilding, that we have a bunch of young players that have to step up and start making plays. But when the playcalling is the same for everygame and every situation, then that is a sign of bad coaching. You can't run the ball a majority of the time and be successful. That is not how football works these days. Like I have said in other posts, Coach Brandon is a good assistant coach, and that's it. There are plenty of great assistant coaches in all sports that are just that, great assistants. Everyone on this board is going to support BG athletics as best they can. They are not going to give up our programs. Some of the most passionate fans are on this site, and they are very loyal to BG.
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HoustonFalcon wrote: Everyone on this board is going to support BG athletics as best they can. They are not going to give up our programs. Some of the most passionate fans are on this site, and they are very loyal to BG.
I second that Houston! Even when teams aren't doing well, we'll still be there supporting them. The players know when they aren't being supported and therefore won't be willing to do as well. Regardless of any outcome in any game, we need to stand behind our team, in any sport, and give them the encouragement they so well need and deserve!!
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