Aren't we .500?

windycityfalcon · Post by **windycityfalcon** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:20 pm

I'll be the first to admit that what happened against Kent was an absolute debacle, but from reading this board over the weekend it appears many our fans consider the program a sinking ship.
Are we not .500 with a huge road game ahead of us?
The season's not over - this is in no way as dismal as it was in the later years of the Blackney era or the Akney era for that matter.. and this team does have a lot of promise at nearly every position
I'm not making excuses, but lighten up..
1. It's only a game
2. These are kids playing the game after all - many of them not even 20 yet.
3. There's a lot of season left

NY-BG-FAN · Post by **NY-BG-FAN** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:38 pm

Well Said... what people tend to forget is that they are obsessing over a bunch of kids with problems of their own. Do you think they feel good about Saturday? They have to deal with the pressure of the season, along with dedicating 40 hours a week to football, in addition to being a full-time student like anyone else. They go above and beyond the normal student, and sometimes all the preparation of the week can't be pulled together on Saturday- it happens to every team once in a while. And that's the thing, during Brandon's tenure it hasn't happened often, where he has been totally outcoached and/or the team been totally outplayed. All I know is if Temple or Buffalo was 2-2 right now they'd be doing backflips. I'm not making excuses either for a piss-poor effort against Kent, but other programs have it alot worse, and have a lot less on the horizon than BG. I know people are tired of hearing the words "youth" and "potential" with the phrase "down the road," but it's true. There is no shame in rebuilding, and as windy city said, we are rebuilding with a whole lot left to play for and a more than reasonable chance to still win 6-7 games this season. There is especially no shame in rebuilding in this era of College Football, where there is more parity than ever. Shoot, if perennial powers Alabama and Nebraska can't sustain a championship team year in and year out, who are we to go schizo over one bad game? No need to overreact over one bad week. If one becomes two, and two becomes a bad month, then maybe. Calling for Brandon's head and writing angry e-mails doesn't accomplish doodily squat, and doing that doesn't distinguish you as a more devoted or deserving fan than anyone else. Let these men and student-athletes do their jobs in peace, they are busy enough win or lose, and they certainly don't need fans griping about them. They put more than enough pressure on themselves to win. Good post above.

HoustonFalcon · Post by **HoustonFalcon** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:04 pm

I may be wrong here, but no one is griping about the student athletes as much as they are about the coaching of these student athletes. They aren't complaining about the loss of one game, they are complaining about the way our team has been declining the last couple of years. Coach Brandon has won games and gotten our team to bowl games and won them, but let's look at the big games that he has won. Two bowl games, one against an inferior Northwestern team, and one against Memphis, who lost their star running back in that game. But what big games has he won that has in that time. The revenge game against NIU at home was the only one that I can think of. I might be missing one, but that would be it, one. Our team in young, and they have potential. But without the proper coaching, that talent won't do one lick of good in the future. That is what people are upset about.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:38 pm

Well said.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:42 pm

NY-BG-FAN wrote:All I know is if Temple or Buffalo was 2-2 right now they'd be doing backflips.

Nothing like lowering the bar to a manageable level.

windycityfalcon · Post by **windycityfalcon** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:48 pm

Oh I agree that Coach Brandon and his staff have some serious issues to address and that if they can't be fixed our athletic dept. should perhaps consider the future of BGSU football without Coach B as a part of it. However, I also don't think we should even entertain that thought until after the season is over when we all can look at the season as a whole and stack it up against Coach B's other seasons at the helm. I grew up during the Akney era - at least those are my first memories of Falcon football - I attended BGSU during the Blackney era and went on that rollercoaster ride just like many other Falcon faithful, and I will say that the situation we are in now is NOT EVEN CLOSE to what it felt like during the end of those two coaching eras. I'm not saying it won't head in that direction, but lets not get on that train before it pulls up to the station.

NY-BG-FAN · Post by **NY-BG-FAN** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:05 pm

orangeandbrown wrote:
NY-BG-FAN wrote:All I know is if Temple or Buffalo was 2-2 right now they'd be doing backflips.
Nothing like lowering the bar to a manageable level.

Not what I meant. I don't mean that it is acceptable for our program to be lowered to the levels of the Division I doormats, all that I am saying is people always think the grass is greener on the other side. The point I'm trying to make is that the grass is pretty green in BG. Yeah 2-2 is a disappontment considering we've only played one real good team in Wisconsin, but 28-13, 19-7 in the MAC in the Brandon era is nothing to sneeze at. How can all of that quality work be erased by one loss?

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:42 pm

Yet another person who thinks all of this consternation is about one loss.

NY-BG-FAN · Post by **NY-BG-FAN** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:24 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Yet another person who thinks all of this consternation is about one loss.

I understand you and others feel that the program has been slowly declining, and it's certainly arguable to a point. However what good does it do to complain in an e-mail? Do you honestly think you are going to tell Gregg Brandon anything he already hasn't thought of? The man has been coaching football all of his adult life, I don't think an angry fan is going to change his outlook on anything. As busy as he is as a DI-A football coach, I'm confident he'll do everything he can to get BG back in the win column, like it's his job or something. Coaches should stick to coaching, fans on a message board should stick to supporting the team and stop calling for the coaches head, because it's not going to change anything. He's under contract, and has a terrific record, period. Unless anyone on here has the resume of coaching college football that Gregg Brandon does, they should probably stop playing armchair QB, because their opinions don't mean anything. Gregg Brandon knows how to coach a Division I college football team, I and most others on a message board do not. Get used to Gregg Brandon as head coach. It's not gonna change anytime soon, so we might as well just support the team through thick and thin and not get so bent out of shape. We still have a ton to play for this year, and I am still excited and optimistic.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:25 pm

windycityfalcon wrote:Oh I agree that Coach Brandon and his staff have some serious issues to address and that if they can't be fixed our athletic dept. should perhaps consider the future of BGSU football without Coach B as a part of it. However, I also don't think we should even entertain that thought until after the season is over when we all can look at the season as a whole and stack it up against Coach B's other seasons at the helm. I grew up during the Akney era - at least those are my first memories of Falcon football - I attended BGSU during the Blackney era and went on that rollercoaster ride just like many other Falcon faithful, and I will say that the situation we are in now is NOT EVEN CLOSE to what it felt like during the end of those two coaching eras. I'm not saying it won't head in that direction, but lets not get on that train before it pulls up to the station.

I heard that. As bad as Saturday's game was, Moe Ankney's teams underperformed on a super regular basis. I know first hand...I went to all these games from 86-90 and it was a pain beyond belief. He may have been a decent player here under Doyt Perry but didn't make much of a head coach. Not many do...I guess.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:31 pm

It's not Brandon I'm trying to sway. Maybe all a new AD needs to bring in "his guy" are a losing season or 2 and a bunch of angry "boosters" (fans).

In my opinion, it's certainly worth a try. If nothing else, maybe my e-mail can help him realize how out of line he was in continuously calling out players. Maybe he didn't even read it. Who knows? I do know that Mr. Christopher read it. In either case, supporting the Falcons with every bone in my body and being completely dissatisfied with the head coach's performance are not mutually exclusive. If people always just sat on their hands instead of letting their voices be heard, nothing would ever change.

Dissention is the nature of everything we hold dear.

OhioBobcat · Post by **OhioBobcat** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:37 pm

windycityfalcon wrote:Are we not .500 with a huge road game ahead of us?

Yes, but only until Saturday, then the wheels fall off for BG. We've beaten NIU on the road (when did BG last do that?) and had two losses to teams currently in the top 25. You just got destroyed by Kent, at home. You don't stand a chance in Athens, you're team is nothing anymore and we're going to beat you like a drum.

Peregrinner · Post by **Peregrinner** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:40 pm

OhioBobcat wrote:you're team is nothing anymore and we're going to beat you like a drum.

I guess you would know about a team being 'nothing', eh OBC? You do speak from experience.

Oh, and, "your"... not "you're".

windycityfalcon · Post by **windycityfalcon** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:41 pm

im all for trash talk - but im not sure this is the thread for it..
and we'll see what happens saturday - there's a reason they play the games.

OhioBobcat · Post by **OhioBobcat** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:46 pm

windycityfalcon wrote:im all for trash talk - but im not sure this is the thread for it.

Who's talking trash? I'm just pointing out the facts.

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