I have to say that I know the folks in this crowd will all agree that the action, or more specificly the total lack of action. Being taken by the NCAA after the Miami fl int mess is unacceptable. Thug u should be suspend from NCAA play for 10 years for this past events and having a program that is more criminal than good in nature and Fl INT should be suspend for 4 year.
that is my thinking, as I believe in a very harsh action. Your idea may well differ but is most likely far more harsh than what has gone on.
Please call the ncaa and tell that if they have energy to bitch about mascots and songs that they had better well take care of business that is serious.
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Once I heard the sound bite of Lamar Thomas comments from the booth, I thought that was worst than what was happening on the field....... at least someone had the 'nads to fire him.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sp ... 774438.htm
"When the head-stomping, helmet-swinging brawl erupted during the third quarter, Thomas not only repeatedly cheered UM on, but said he wanted to join them in taking a shot at the FIU team.
''You come into our house, you should get your behind kicked,'' Thomas told viewers. ``You don't come into the Orange Bowl playing that stuff. You're across the ocean over there. You're across the city over there. You can't come over to our place talking noise like that. You'll get your butt kicked. I was about to go down the elevator and get into that thing.''
He even seemed disappointed when the referees finally got control. ''Why don't they just meet outside in the tunnel after the ball game and get it on some more?'' he urged. ``You don't come into the Orange Bowl, baby -- we've had a down couple of years -- but you don't come in here talking trash. . . .
``You come in here talking smack, it's time to get it on. We let you play in our stadium -- they play well, I gotta give it to FIU, they played well so far -- but you cross the line at some point.''
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWeE9KqZjQ
His comments come about 1:49 and 3:02 into the video
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sp ... 774438.htm
"When the head-stomping, helmet-swinging brawl erupted during the third quarter, Thomas not only repeatedly cheered UM on, but said he wanted to join them in taking a shot at the FIU team.
''You come into our house, you should get your behind kicked,'' Thomas told viewers. ``You don't come into the Orange Bowl playing that stuff. You're across the ocean over there. You're across the city over there. You can't come over to our place talking noise like that. You'll get your butt kicked. I was about to go down the elevator and get into that thing.''
He even seemed disappointed when the referees finally got control. ''Why don't they just meet outside in the tunnel after the ball game and get it on some more?'' he urged. ``You don't come into the Orange Bowl, baby -- we've had a down couple of years -- but you don't come in here talking trash. . . .
``You come in here talking smack, it's time to get it on. We let you play in our stadium -- they play well, I gotta give it to FIU, they played well so far -- but you cross the line at some point.''
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWeE9KqZjQ
His comments come about 1:49 and 3:02 into the video
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I know that Miami comes in with that thug reputation.
But. . .
It seems to me that the specific shoving that led to the fight during the extra point was instigated by FIU players. The #24 McDuffie was the worst of them.
I stated when BG played FIU that I thought they were cocky and arrogant- but slapping Falcon players and jawing back to the huddle. When you have players that think they are good, think they deserve to be on the other sideline and combine that with a lame duck coach in a winless season, you can get a pretty volitile mix and that is what spilled over in my opinion.
If my kicker or holder is getting stomped, literally, you're darn right I think about using my helmet to stop the attack.
But. . .
It seems to me that the specific shoving that led to the fight during the extra point was instigated by FIU players. The #24 McDuffie was the worst of them.
I stated when BG played FIU that I thought they were cocky and arrogant- but slapping Falcon players and jawing back to the huddle. When you have players that think they are good, think they deserve to be on the other sideline and combine that with a lame duck coach in a winless season, you can get a pretty volitile mix and that is what spilled over in my opinion.
If my kicker or holder is getting stomped, literally, you're darn right I think about using my helmet to stop the attack.
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ESPN ran the comments from Dr. Shalala all day long.
I think the thing that gets me is that FIU took action along with the Sun Belt conference. The conference issued one game suspension which FIU made indefinite (now is that two or three weeks or the rest of the season?) as well as dismissed two players.
The ACC suspended a number of Miami players one game.
What has Miami done? Sounds like Frank Solich is the head coach down there. OK, so they aren't being sent to the coaches office to study for the next six days. Instead they have community service.
Miami missed the opportunity to make a statement. Suspend the defensive captain (he was the one stomping on some FIU players) for the season. Suspend the others for more than just the Duke game.
At first, I thought FIU bore major responsibility for this riot, but after reviewing some of the tapes and seeing the Miami player taunt the crowd and the Miami players celebrating on the sideline after the brawl, well....I think both schools are equally responsible for this outrageous act.
I think the thing that gets me is that FIU took action along with the Sun Belt conference. The conference issued one game suspension which FIU made indefinite (now is that two or three weeks or the rest of the season?) as well as dismissed two players.
The ACC suspended a number of Miami players one game.
What has Miami done? Sounds like Frank Solich is the head coach down there. OK, so they aren't being sent to the coaches office to study for the next six days. Instead they have community service.
Miami missed the opportunity to make a statement. Suspend the defensive captain (he was the one stomping on some FIU players) for the season. Suspend the others for more than just the Duke game.
At first, I thought FIU bore major responsibility for this riot, but after reviewing some of the tapes and seeing the Miami player taunt the crowd and the Miami players celebrating on the sideline after the brawl, well....I think both schools are equally responsible for this outrageous act.
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there is never, never any action on the football that would require the use of a helmet as a weapon. that is just wrong, even a fight there is a degree of sportsmen ship that one assumes. Its akin to a hockey player skating up behind a hockey player and pulling your stick over your head, letting the blade drag the ice behind you and dealing a blow down the personin front of you on the head (ie as was done Big Mac)
a guy hacking at the catcher of goalie does not whiped in the head with a helmet...he gets punched and warded off, and if a bench clearing comes on, there is still a level sportsmen ship...yea lots of folks never liked or like or respect that part of hockey...some think it has no place...that is neither her nor there...in this example
there was no excuess for what transpired...stomping heads, helmets as weapons, fingers being jammed into eyes non of it right.
yea FIU had attitude yea the thug u does to...but its uncalled for...it happens way to much from the U and the message needs to be very very strong...what has happend via the pres of the u is further example of wolves gaurding sheep. the U needs to completly scraped for a period of time then rebuilt.
FIU needs be suspended from play for a period of time.
numerous players need to be baned.
a guy hacking at the catcher of goalie does not whiped in the head with a helmet...he gets punched and warded off, and if a bench clearing comes on, there is still a level sportsmen ship...yea lots of folks never liked or like or respect that part of hockey...some think it has no place...that is neither her nor there...in this example
there was no excuess for what transpired...stomping heads, helmets as weapons, fingers being jammed into eyes non of it right.
yea FIU had attitude yea the thug u does to...but its uncalled for...it happens way to much from the U and the message needs to be very very strong...what has happend via the pres of the u is further example of wolves gaurding sheep. the U needs to completly scraped for a period of time then rebuilt.
FIU needs be suspended from play for a period of time.
numerous players need to be baned.
When it comes down to it, Miami did not do anything. They have a handful of players suspended for a game that they can win with their bench. It looks like that is going to be it too. I keep waiting for more with all the flack they are getting but knowing the U this will be it.transfer2BGSU wrote:Miami missed the opportunity to make a statement. Suspend the defensive captain (he was the one stomping on some FIU players) for the season.
Meanwhile FIU has seemed to take a harsher stance. However, they have not defined any of their suspensions. So for all we know all those players could be playing again after this weekend.
If I remember correctly. A couple of years ago, South Carolina and Clemson got into a huge fight. I think it may have been the last game of the season or close to it.
both coaches and administration decided, that to punish this type of behavior, they would forgo any bowl bids that were offered to them. Both teams were bowl eligible that year and both stayed home.
This seems to be an even worst occurrence (if that is possible in these situations) than that one and no one is talking about suspending these teams (well Miami) from a bowl appearence this year.
The players involved should be done for the season and both teams suspended from post season play. The NCAA should be handing this down and not leaving it up to the individual schools or conference. There is no place for this kind of behavior on a football field.
both coaches and administration decided, that to punish this type of behavior, they would forgo any bowl bids that were offered to them. Both teams were bowl eligible that year and both stayed home.
This seems to be an even worst occurrence (if that is possible in these situations) than that one and no one is talking about suspending these teams (well Miami) from a bowl appearence this year.
The players involved should be done for the season and both teams suspended from post season play. The NCAA should be handing this down and not leaving it up to the individual schools or conference. There is no place for this kind of behavior on a football field.
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Essentially that is how we ended up in the 2004 GMAC Bowl.Spart43 wrote:If I remember correctly. A couple of years ago, South Carolina and Clemson got into a huge fight. I think it may have been the last game of the season or close to it.
both coaches and administration decided, that to punish this type of behavior, they would forgo any bowl bids that were offered to them. Both teams were bowl eligible that year and both stayed home.
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