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Our Quarterback
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:59 pm
by kdog27
I usually do not post right after games but today I feel like I need to.
I am so sick of seeing Anthony Turner as our quarterback. Does this kid have any upside? I do not see it. For every good pass he makes he throws five that are not even close to where they are suppose to be. I have not seen his numbers yet, but I am sure they do not portray how many passes that were not even close.
Additionally, he cannot scramble. I do not think he could get away from me when he is behind center. He might be fast but he does not play like it. When he scrambles he picks up two yards at best. I could live with his terrible passes if he could make something happen on the ground. He also gets that happy feet crap that Jacobs use to get. I cannot stand that. He starts tapping both feet. Once you see that you can pretty much guarantee a poor pass coming. If I hear the excuse of him being a highly touted recruit one more time I think I will puke. He plays like a walk on.
Now I am not saying I want to see Barnes again, but at least his passes are close and at least he can run. Play Sheenan. We have fifteen freshmen playing so what does one more hurt?
Also why was Macon starting? We did not start moving the ball until Bullock came in.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:04 pm
by The Niz
I believe you just summed up almost every conversation we had at Jed's tonight.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:13 pm
by Jacobs4Heisman
I've defended AT vehemently over the past year to the many detractors around here.
I won't do it anymore. If AT plays a good game tonight, and Bullock starts, we could have dropped 40 on that defense and won by 2 scores. Guys were open all day long, especially on checkdowns. AT just seems to be about 1.5 seconds late in everything he does. That will kill a QB.
With our potent rushing attack, there is no reason to not be able to pass the ball effectively. The guys are open, we need somebody who can hit them. I thought AT could be that guy. I don't believe he is anymore.
I vote for Sheehan. Freddie is not a QB, but he has become our second best receiver, and we can't afford to lose him out there. The only time I want to see Freddie at QB, is on third or fourth and 1, to run up the middle. You know, the play that works 95% of the time? I know we're fond of options and sweeps and that stupid stupid stupid pistol handoff that get stuffed half the time, but in case we decide we'd like to actively try and win the game, I want freddie doing the sneaking.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:19 pm
by Columbus_Zak
At what point did Freddie become the second best reciever? If it weren't for Bollock emerging, he'd be our best option at QB, RB, and WR.
But I wll begrudgingly accept, Brandon isn't going to play Barnes at QB because he's needed elsewhere, so why not go with Sheehan, you've burnt his red shirt, you're not going to win the east, and in all likelihood not make a bowl game. If you're going to cut the playbook in half with Barnes/Turner at qb, you might as well give him some time.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:22 pm
by Jacobs4Heisman
Columbus_Zak wrote:At what point did Freddie become the second best reciever? If it weren't for Bollock emerging, he'd be our best option at QB, RB, and WR.
When he passed everyone but Partridge. CP is open all the time. If we had a QB that could find him, he'd be reeling in 10 catches for 120 and a TD every week. Freddie's impressed me a ton at WR, but he's got some more improving to do. By this time next year, he very well may be our best WR.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:24 pm
by San Diego Falcon
Some of you are saying we are going to be scary good the next 2 years. How does that happen? The same people are going to be trying to prepare these players, trying to teach them to tackle, trying to teach them how to block for a chip-shot field goal, calling the plays, deciding to punt from the opponent's 32-yard line, blah, blah, blah. Do we have people on the roster who aren't playmakers this year that will suddenly become playmakers next year? Will AT's 4th year in the system produce much better results than his 3rd year in the program?
Somebody please give me a reason to expect us being anything better than a .500 team the next few years.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:28 pm
by kdog27
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Columbus_Zak wrote:At what point did Freddie become the second best reciever? If it weren't for Bollock emerging, he'd be our best option at QB, RB, and WR.
When he passed everyone but Partridge. CP is open all the time. If we had a QB that could find him, he'd be reeling in 10 catches for 120 and a TD every week. Freddie's impressed me a ton at WR, but he's got some more improving to do. By this time next year, he very well may be our best WR.
Yeah he is already close. Pretty impressive in the limited time he has been a receiver. I agree with Barnes being the better QB though. I have been saying it since the Wisconsin game that I would rather see Barnes play than Turner. He may not be a great passer but he is not an awful passer. Like I said before I wish they would play that Sheenan kid. Turner cannot run for crap so we might as well have a better passer back there.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:29 pm
by Columbus_Zak
If Turner is still the qb we simply won't be "scary good." I've not seen anything that I'd necessarily hang my hat on out of him.
There's no question that CP is probably a better route runner...But if I had to bet the house on who's going to get more yac, it'd be Barnes by a mile.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:29 pm
by redskins4ever
AT - this is an outside observation - has heard repeatedly go through your progression, wait to run, well guess what, you have take AT's legs out of the game. Plays took a long time to develop and instead of running he stood in the pocket for two days.... that is coaching folks.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:30 pm
by The Niz
When you put it that way it is pretty hard to believe that we will accomplish anything in any years to come. Certian mistakes are from an immaturity standpoint though, like having 40 yard plays called back by holding penalties. And having your defense give up one their last few series. The whole team needs to mature, from the head coach on down to the last string punter.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:30 pm
by kdog27
San Diego Falcon wrote:Some of you are saying we are going to be scary good the next 2 years. How does that happen? The same people are going to be trying to prepare these players, trying to teach them to tackle, trying to teach them how to block for a chip-shot field goal, calling the plays, deciding to punt from the opponent's 32-yard line, blah, blah, blah. Do we have people on the roster who aren't playmakers this year that will suddenly become playmakers next year? Will AT's 4th year in the system produce much better results than his 3rd year in the program?
Somebody please give me a reason to expect us being anything better than a .500 team the next few years.
You won't find me making those statements. Playing a bunch of freshmen does not necessarily dictate a bright future. If it did Buffalo and EMU would have had some great years by now.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:32 pm
by Jacobs4Heisman
I have a very hard time believing we will ever win a championship with Brandon at HC and Stud at OC, regardless of how much talent we bring in and how many freshman are playing.
A very hard time.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:35 pm
by BGAlum2006
turner looks like he plays in slow motion out there. as someone already said, he's about a second and a half late on all his decisions. on more than one occasion in tonight's game he was bailed out by nice catches by his receivers (the brantley catch in double coverage comes to mind).
this is his third year in the system and he got a lot of PT last year when omar went down. he needs to either shape up or brandon needs to put sheehan in there.
if you've already burned the kid's redshirt, you should go ahead and let him play. i don't think he could do much worse than AT at this point.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:36 pm
by Columbus_Zak
It's a catch 22, Barnes is probably your best option at qb right now, but he's also your best option everywhere else.
Having said that it needs to be accepted he's not a starting qb at Bowling Green under Brandon. Which is hard to accept given what we saw out of him during the Wisconsin game. A Wisconsin team by the way which will finish at least top 15 this year.
I'd like to hear from someone though, why they feel that AT is ultimately going to be the answer at qb. Perhaps I'm missing something.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:42 pm
by kdog27
redskins4ever wrote:AT - this is an outside observation - has heard repeatedly go through your progression, wait to run, well guess what, you have take AT's legs out of the game.
But when he does run he looks like he is about as fast as Bernie Kosar. He runs like he is scared. On his desigened runs if there is not a lane the size of a dumptruck he is going no where.
...Hell Partridge's pass was the best pass I saw all night.