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Rojas

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:37 am
by BGGrad01
Rojas has been ripped up and down this board for the better part of two months now, but he showed some serious talent last night. He had the one shank, which I don't think cost us points, but the other kicks were beautiful. He saved us points when he jumped to catch the bad snap and got off a decent punt and he hit two punts perfectly in the 3rd/4th quarter trying to pin Central deep. Unfortunately, we only got one of them downed.

Some are going to rip Brandon for not going for it on 4th and 1 at the 32, but Rojas executed beautifully on that punt. If we manage to get it downed at the 1, I think our chances of winning the game would have been very good. Very well done last night, Alonso!

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:41 am
by Dayons_Den
I noticed that all of his punts, despite the spread formation, were taken in a traditional manner. No rugby punts.


He has looked comfortable and relaxed the last few weeks and his consistancy is greatly improving.

Re: Rojas

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:49 am
by Warthog
BGGrad01 wrote:Some are going to rip Brandon for not going for it on 4th and 1 at the 32,
Yep, I am ripping on Brandon for punting from the opponents 32. That is such a sissy, fraidy cat call. He was playing not to lose instead of playing to win. When you got the opponent by the nuts, you squeeze. Brandon let go.

To make it worse, the previous series we punted from the CMU 41 when we had fourth and 1. Could have went for it then. But we punted and downed it at the one. Anyone that knows football knows that downing a ball inside the 5 is not an easy thing to do and doesn't happen all that often. So the law of probabilty makes the odds very long that we could do it two times in a row. Punting should not even be a consideration when you are inside the opponents 35.

You only get a limited number of opportunities to score every game. When we waste one of those opportunities punting from the opponents 32, you might as well walk off the field and declare that you have given up. That is what that decision does psychologically to your players.

I should send Brandon the Gregg Easterbrook 'Tuesday Morning Quarterback' article where he gives imperical statistical evidence that you should NEVER punt the ball no matter the circumstances. You manage every series knowing you have four chances to pick up ten yards and in the long run you control the game and win.

Re: Rojas

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:51 am
by svillefalcon
BGGrad01 wrote: Some are going to rip Brandon for not going for it on 4th and 1 at the 32, but Rojas executed beautifully on that punt. If we manage to get it downed at the 1, I think our chances of winning the game would have been very good. Very well done last night, Alonso!
Actually the punt from the 32 went into the endzone for a touchback. There was a punt from the 40 that hit at the one and kicked straight left and was downed at the 1-foot line. I was inattendance to see it. It was also 4th and about 7 from the 32 not 4th and 1.

Re: Rojas

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:56 am
by PGY Tiercel
Warthog wrote:
BGGrad01 wrote:Some are going to rip Brandon for not going for it on 4th and 1 at the 32,
Yep, I am ripping on Brandon for punting from the opponents 32. That is such a sissy, fraidy cat call. He was playing not to lose instead of playing to win. When you got the opponent by the nuts, you squeeze. Brandon let go.

To make it worse, the previous series we punted from the CMU 41 when we had fourth and 1. Could have went for it then. But we punted and downed it at the one. Anyone that knows football knows that downing a ball inside the 5 is not an easy thing to do and doesn't happen all that often. So the law of probabilty makes the odds very long that we could do it two times in a row. Punting should not even be a consideration when you are inside the opponents 35.

You only get a limited number of opportunities to score every game. When we waste one of those opportunities punting from the opponents 32, you might as well walk off the field and declare that you have given up. That is what that decision does psychologically to your players.

I should send Brandon the Gregg Easterbrook 'Tuesday Morning Quarterback' article where he gives imperical statistical evidence that you should NEVER punt the ball no matter the circumstances. You manage every series knowing you have four chances to pick up ten yards and in the long run you control the game and win.
we were 2-2 on 4th down conversions last night in the end as well. The players knew what was on the line, they would have picked it up. I still can't believe he didn't go for it. Even had we not converted it still would have psyched the D to get another stop.

Re: Rojas

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:56 am
by BGGrad01
svillefalcon wrote:
BGGrad01 wrote: Some are going to rip Brandon for not going for it on 4th and 1 at the 32, but Rojas executed beautifully on that punt. If we manage to get it downed at the 1, I think our chances of winning the game would have been very good. Very well done last night, Alonso!
Actually the punt from the 32 went into the endzone for a touchback. There was a punt from the 40 that hit at the one and kicked straight left and was downed at the 1-foot line. I was inattendance to see it. It was also 4th and about 7 from the 32 not 4th and 1.
Sorry, you're right. I got the two series mixed up. Central stopping Bullock on that 3rd and 1 around the 40 was a huge play for them.

Re: Rojas

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:58 am
by svillefalcon
BGGrad01 wrote:
svillefalcon wrote:
BGGrad01 wrote: Some are going to rip Brandon for not going for it on 4th and 1 at the 32, but Rojas executed beautifully on that punt. If we manage to get it downed at the 1, I think our chances of winning the game would have been very good. Very well done last night, Alonso!
Actually the punt from the 32 went into the endzone for a touchback. There was a punt from the 40 that hit at the one and kicked straight left and was downed at the 1-foot line. I was inattendance to see it. It was also 4th and about 7 from the 32 not 4th and 1.
Sorry, you're right. I got the two series mixed up. Central stopping Bullock on that 3rd and 1 around the 40 was a huge play for them.
The biggest sequence of the game is where we had a first and 10 at the CMU 35 after a nice return and we get 3 yards on three plays and PUNT!! grrr...we passed three times in a row on that drive, why the hell not give it to bullock, they could not stop him! damn......

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:01 am
by hammb
Quite possibly the single worst coaching decision I've ever seen in my life. Ranks right up there with taking the wind in NFL OT after winning the coin toss.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:02 am
by Jacobs4Heisman
As I said in another thread, no wonder the defense gave up. They just saw their head coach do the same.

Reminded me of the Toledo game from last year.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:12 am
by Warthog
Just asking the question, not trying to praise Amstutz, but just asking, Do you think Amstutz would have punted in either of those situations?

Re: Rojas

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:54 am
by Peregrinner
svillefalcon wrote:
BGGrad01 wrote: Some are going to rip Brandon for not going for it on 4th and 1 at the 32, but Rojas executed beautifully on that punt. If we manage to get it downed at the 1, I think our chances of winning the game would have been very good. Very well done last night, Alonso!
Actually the punt from the 32 went into the endzone for a touchback. There was a punt from the 40 that hit at the one and kicked straight left and was downed at the 1-foot line. I was inattendance to see it. It was also 4th and about 7 from the 32 not 4th and 1.
The thing with the punt from the 32, as far as it sounded from the call on the radio, is that Rojas put it where it needed to be, but our coverage guy let the ball get past him. If this is incorrect, my apologies, because I didn't actually see it, but that's what the radio call made it sound like.

Aside from the shank, though, Rojas was a beast last night (and last week as well), and I'm glad to see people are finally starting to recognize him for the talent he has.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:05 am
by BGSUFootballFan
hammb wrote:Quite possibly the single worst coaching decision I've ever seen in my life. Ranks right up there with taking the wind in NFL OT after winning the coin toss.

Hahahahaha who took the wind instead of the ball?

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:07 am
by hammb
BGSUFootballFan wrote:
hammb wrote:Quite possibly the single worst coaching decision I've ever seen in my life. Ranks right up there with taking the wind in NFL OT after winning the coin toss.

Hahahahaha who took the wind instead of the ball?
Coach for the Lions a few years back...before Mariucci, Morninwheg.

It wasn't even that windy that day...:roll:

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:15 am
by BGSUFootballFan
hammb wrote:
BGSUFootballFan wrote:
hammb wrote:Quite possibly the single worst coaching decision I've ever seen in my life. Ranks right up there with taking the wind in NFL OT after winning the coin toss.

Hahahahaha who took the wind instead of the ball?
Coach for the Lions a few years back...before Mariucci, Morninwheg.

It wasn't even that windy that day...:roll:
That's hilarious! If you wanted to see some terrible coaching calls though you should have seen CMU-BC. CMU easily should have won that game but blew it with terrible coaching! Shows how bad our staff is at times! :x