I keep hearing this....

Columbus_Zak · Post by **Columbus_Zak** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:09 pm

That Freddie Barnes can't qb at this level, someone, anyone, help me to understand how this season could've been any worse with him at the helm?

I can't wait to hear the answers. Because I think BG's greatest mistake this season was predictibly sending Freddie on a draw every time he lined up at qb. Seriously, if you were playing defense would you have been fooled? It's no bloody wonder he's injured right now.

And I know Coach Brandon reads this, after an injury perhaps, I get that, off the field, you lose your spot fair play. AT in the game against Wisconsin, it's not even close. Had that punt not gotten blocked, it's a close game, a very winable game. AT doesn't put you there. Freddie Barnes does.

jpfalcon09 · Post by **jpfalcon09** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:11 pm

He didn't change much with Turner, so it's certainly a good argument. Hopefully over the spring all 4 QB's get evaluated and the most talented one is starter.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:14 pm

Columbus_Zak wrote:That Freddie Barnes can't qb at this level, someone, anyone, help me to understand how this season could've been any worse with him at the helm?

I can't wait to hear the answers. Because I think BG's greatest mistake this season was predictibly sending Freddie on a draw every time he lined up at qb. Seriously, if you were playing defense would you have been fooled? It's no bloody wonder he's injured right now.

And I know Coach Brandon reads this, after an injury perhaps, I get that, off the field, you lose your spot fair play. AT in the game against Wisconsin, it's not even close. Had that punt not gotten blocked, it's a close game, a very winable game. AT doesn't put you there. Freddie Barnes does.

I happen to agree with you and have said it on here before. If Turner is the QB the next two years we will not be good. With that said if the coaches remain the same we won't be good either.

Falcon52 · Post by **Falcon52** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:16 pm

We need to search the juco's for a stud WR. I like Partridge but he needs help. We need another go to guy.

3rd quarter play calling was so bad.

Our coaches are just trying to shove a square block into a round hole. Even the best players can't overcome predictable plays. We had nothing to lose and the offense scheme was scripted like we had a 3 TD lead.

I'm sick.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:41 pm

Can Turner play receiver? Maybe Partridge, Barnes, Turner and Parks (maybe back to 100% health next year?) as the 4 receivers with the winner of the Glaud/Sheehan battle under center?

BGFootball · Post by **BGFootball** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:41 am

Are people on here still complainin about AT????? Did you guys even watch the last two games??? He is the main reason we were in a position to win the last two games! He had about one series last night where he threw completely off....other then that his throws were right on and either the receivers were dropping them or slipping....AT has proven in the last two games that he has got what it takes and yet people still are sayin Freddie Barnes should be QB.....now thats just rediculous.....

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:43 am

We could have Joe Montana back there and we'd still be inept as long as Brandon and Stud are running the show.

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:56 am

We got beat by a good team 35-14 with Freddie at the helm. I was happy with his performance, but it was obvious against Kent that he is a one-dimensional QB. We got absolutely flogged by an average MAC team with Freddie leading the way. He has proven his value as a receiver and that is where he should be played.

I'm with BGFootball. Turner has really stepped up and been solid in the last 2 games. Can't blame AT for the playcalling last night or the huge drop in the 3rd quarter on what would have been a 25+ yard gain. That was one of the best passes I have seen AT throw all year.

BGFootball · Post by **BGFootball** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:12 pm

One of his best performances, and imagine not bein able to feel your hands and still make accurate passes.....

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:16 pm

AT moved the ball well at times (it helps when the defense drops off and doesn't pressure him. He has a chance to either pick a reciever or pick a running lane) and there were other times it looked like he could have made a better decision with the football. If he can get the mental aspects of the position squared away, he could be an all MAC QB. The tools are there.

It will be interesting to see how spring and fall practice develop. Will Glaud or Sheehan show enough to dislodge Turner? Will we sign another QB this year? I'd be suprised if we didn't sign one....

So far as Freddie goes, he's a heck of an athlete, but he isn't close to be as good a passer as Turner (and it's not like passing is AT's strength).
We're just too easy to defend if we don't have the threat of getting the ball downfield.

moneymaker02 · Post by **moneymaker02** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:10 pm

freddie is not even listed as a qb anymore, brandon has said it many times, the guy couldn't throw the ball into lake erie. as much of a turner fan i am, i would like to see the job open to the 3 guys in the spring. we all know turner is a duel threat, sheehan has the cannon arm, and glaud is still a question mark since we haven't seen him yet. im really looking forward to the spring game.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:34 pm

BGGrad01 wrote:We got beat by a good team 35-14 with Freddie at the helm. I was happy with his performance

The biggest reason for his success against Wisconsin is that they were totally unprepared for the style of offense we threw out there. Given our ability to throw the ball the last few years, the Badgers expected whoever played QB to do the same. So Barnes had some success. Once teams had some film on him and knew he couldn't throw the ball, stopping the Barnes-led offense was a simple task. See the Kent game if you don't believe me.

Columbus_Zak · Post by **Columbus_Zak** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:43 pm

He can't throw the ball? He was recruited D1 as a quarter back. He can't throw the ball? Maybe all he needs is development....The exact same thing being offered to every other quarterback on the roster. Freddie Barnes as a finished product would've been outstanding at QB. Bottom line, if you were going to use a year to develop a QB that doesn't have the intangibles and foot skills that Barnes has, why not use the year to develop Barnes? It's total rubbish this "he can't throw the ball" stuff. What, Barnes couldn't of turned in several 130-175 yards a game performances? That's completely ridiculous. Off the charts ridiculous. I can't believe a single poster here honestly believes that Freddie Barnes couldn't of averaged 153 passing yards per game. Not possible.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:46 pm

Zak, I think you will be the only poster who thinks Barnes COULD have averaged 153 passing yards per game. Did you watch the Kent game at all?

Columbus_Zak · Post by **Columbus_Zak** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:50 pm

So you're ready to rubish him as a qb based on one abject performance? AT has been given several opportunities to bounce back from bad performances. I don't see posters here saying he can't throw a ball...

Additionally, benching Barnes after putting your team in a position to win against a top half Big Ten team....It had to have an effect on him metally.

And the Kent game, the weather was poor. If that's the most damning piece of evidence against Barnes at QB, I think it's a bit soft.

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