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Out of the seniors that are leaving this year who do you guys think will go pro? Or will any of them? I think hands down Parks has the best chance with MarKray at second.

bgsualumni wrote:Out of the seniors that are leaving this year who do you guys think will go pro? Or will any of them? I think hands down Parks has the best chance with MarKray at second.

Yeah, I would agree with that assesment. Parks probably and then Markray and I don't think anyone else who's graduating is NFL worthy.

Parks will be in interesting case, as I don't what he really projects as in the NFL a true DE or a 3-4 linebacker. As a DE he'd have to bulk up with out losing any quickness or speed. As a linebacker he could probably afford to lose a few pounds to quicken himself up.

I'll defer to hammb on this one, though recent history suggests we'll be lucky to see any of this year's seniors play in the NFL.

1987alum wrote:I'll defer to hammb on this one, though recent history suggests we'll be lucky to see any of this year's seniors play in the NFL.

I have the brown and orange goggles on....and I think Ruiz will get into a camp. Someone will see TE body in a WR and try him at TE. Markay and Parks should both make camps. Markay because of his measurables and Parks because of his production. I would hope White would make it at LB but there are just too many similar LBs across the country.

I don't see Ruiz in the league. TEs are getting more and more athletic, and I just don't think he has it. He was an awful blocker as well, so he's not going to be a blocking TE in the league. If he puts up a great 40 time at our pro day he may get a camp look, but I'd expect him to be among the first cuts.

Markray has his mammoth size going for him, but I was never that impressed with his play, despite his accolades. The guy is a plodding road grader, but I don't think he's mobile enough for the NFL. If he tests off the charts strength wise he could get a look, he does have the body. In the NFL you have to be able to move to play guard. Guards around the league are either A) getting smaller or B) they're former collegiate tackles that have uncanny athleticism for huge guys. If you cannot pull and get out on a trap you've got no place in the NFL...I don't think Markray has that athleticism. His size will open eyes, and if he test well his strength will get him into a camp, but I'd be shocked to see him stick anywhere.

Then it comes to our best player. Devon Parks is the classic tweener. Too small/weak for DE. Too big/slow for LB. Luckily the 3-4 is back in vogue and large, pass rushing LBs are making a come back. I still remember him dismantling surefire top 10 pick Joe Thomas in Cleveland (albeit in the first game off knee surgery). The guy has a good motor and decent pass rush moves. His quickness wiill be the key. Is he quick enough to transition to an OLB position for a 3-4 team? I don't think he'll ever get a shot as a 4-3 DE, but I fully expect him in a camp as a 3-4 OLB project. If he made a roster it'd be a major upset, but he could be the type of guy who can pick up a couple sacks in preseason and get himself onto a practice squad.

I cannot think of anyone else that would possibly be in a pro camp off my head. T. White had a good year, but he seems way too slow to me to even think about the NFL. An awful year combined with our youth adds up to not a whole lotta NFL talent.

Just remember even when we were rolling the MAC we didn't have any real NFL talent...don't expect to see any this year either.

I think Parks is comparable to Khary Campbell when he came out of BG. Sizewise they are nearly identical. Campbell made his mark in camps as a great special teams player and eventually worked his way up to some LB duty. Parks would probably have to go the same route. And of course getting in the right situation at the right time has a lot to do with it as well.

White is a tackling machine...if he can run any kind of a 40 he could be a roster filling special teams kind of guy.. Parks might be useful on special teams and as a situational pass rusher. He's a bit short for the NFL as a DE, but he has a very high motor. Markray could find himself on a practice squad somewhere rebuilding his body. I think he has the footwork to be an NFL OL...we pull our guards a fair amount and he seemed capable...frankly, we didn't compete at the highest level this year, so getting a read on any of these guys is a bit tough

doughash wrote:I think Parks is comparable to Khary Campbell when he came out of BG. Sizewise they are nearly identical. Campbell made his mark in camps as a great special teams player and eventually worked his way up to some LB duty. Parks would probably have to go the same route. And of course getting in the right situation at the right time has a lot to do with it as well.

Khary Campbell is 30 pounds less then Parks.

These threads are tough. Our guys are always long shots to play in the NFL, but saying so makes it feel like I am rooting against them.

Flipper wrote:White is a tackling machine...if he can run any kind of a 40 he could be a roster filling special teams kind of guy.. Parks might be useful on special teams and as a situational pass rusher. He's a bit short for the NFL as a DE, but he has a very high motor. Markray could find himself on a practice squad somewhere rebuilding his body. I think he has the footwork to be an NFL OL...we pull our guards a fair amount and he seemed capable...frankly, we didn't compete at the highest level this year, so getting a read on any of these guys is a bit tough

I disagree with all of this. White was a tackling machine at the college level but shows no potential for pro ball. At best he could make a practice squad in the beginning and get dropped. Markray is lazy and not NFL caliber. Parks is BG's only shot at sending someone this year. The kid is talented and a leader. Out of all of those three I see this kid as someone that can be molded into exactly what the NFL wants, which is what they are looking for. They can take a kid whose not perfect weight and get him their, but they can't take a lazy kid with a lack of heart and make him a star.

[quote="bgsualumni. The kid is talented and a leader. Out of all of those three I see this kid as someone that can be molded into exactly what the NFL wants, which is what they are looking for. [/quote]

Now that's logical thinking...

If frickin Omar and J5 can't make it in the NFL then I don't see how anyone from this year's team can. Parks has the best chance, but he's undersized and will have to either add weight/strength to play DE or lose weight and gain quickness to play LB. I don't think patience is that high for many NFL coaches these days.

Markray definitely has the size, but I've never seen him throw a killer block. I'd love to see him play with a little edge to him!

Globetrotter wrote:

doughash wrote:I think Parks is comparable to Khary Campbell when he came out of BG. Sizewise they are nearly identical. Campbell made his mark in camps as a great special teams player and eventually worked his way up to some LB duty. Parks would probably have to go the same route. And of course getting in the right situation at the right time has a lot to do with it as well.

Khary Campbell is 30 pounds less then Parks.

Based on this year's rosters they are within 2 lbs of each other.

http://www.redskins.com/team/;jsessionid=KBFMGBODFONI

http://bgsufalcons.cstv.com/sports/m-fo ... l-mtt.html

BGSUFootballFan wrote:If frickin Omar and J5 can't make it in the NFL then I don't see how anyone from this year's team can. Parks has the best chance, but he's undersized and will have to either add weight/strength to play DE or lose weight and gain quickness to play LB. I don't think patience is that high for many NFL coaches these days.

Markray definitely has the size, but I've never seen him throw a killer block. I'd love to see him play with a little edge to him!

Thats the thing Omar and Josh may have been great at BG but they are nothing compared to pro QBs. Neither of them have what it really takes to play in the pro. Omar doesn't have it inside and Josh just doesn't have it. They both had a strong team to make them look good. Neither are that imprssive and couldnt even compete at the pro level.
Markray gets way too much credit...the dude is OVERWEIGHT and lazy it's not muscle its lazy!

doughash wrote:

Globetrotter wrote:

doughash wrote:I think Parks is comparable to Khary Campbell when he came out of BG. Sizewise they are nearly identical. Campbell made his mark in camps as a great special teams player and eventually worked his way up to some LB duty. Parks would probably have to go the same route. And of course getting in the right situation at the right time has a lot to do with it as well.

Khary Campbell is 30 pounds less then Parks.

Based on this year's rosters they are within 2 lbs of each other.

http://www.redskins.com/team/;jsessionid=KBFMGBODFONI

http://bgsufalcons.cstv.com/sports/m-fo ... l-mtt.html

I dont think thats acccurate...http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/303239

ANd they play entirely different games.