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Worried about tulsa's offense?
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:26 pm
by Bassdrummin
No. Looking at their competition, they seem to be on an even playing field with us.
They had many close games with teams they should have blown out. Should be a fun game.
Tulsa's Schedule/Results
Team: Overall Record Win/Loss Margin
Louisiana-Monroe 6-6 W by 18
BYU 11-2 W by 8
Oklahoma #4 11-2 L by 41
UAB 2-10 W by 8
UTEP 4-8 L by 1
Marshall 3-9 W by 7
UCF 10-4 L by 21
Southern Methodist 1-11 W by 6
Tulane 4-8 W by 24
Houston 8-5 W by 49
Army 3-9 W by 10
Rice 3-9 W by 5
UCF 10-4 L by 19
Quality Wins
BYU
Houston
BG's Schedule/Results
Team: Overall Record Win/Loss Margin
Minnesota 1-11 W by 1
MSU 7-6 L by 11
Temple 4-8 W by 13
WKU 7-5 W by 20
BC #7 11-3 L by 31
Miami(OH) 6-7 L by 33
Kent 3-9 W by 11
Ohio 6-6 L by 11
Akron 4-8 W by 24
Eastern Mich. 4-8 W by 7
Buffalo 5-7 W by 14
Toledo 5-7 W by 27
Quality Wins?
Re: Worried about tulsa's offense?
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:31 pm
by Gold*
Bassdrummin wrote:No. Looking at their competition, they seem to be on an even playing field with us.
They had many close games with teams they should have blown out. Should be a fun game.
Tulsa's Schedule/Results
Team: Overall Record Win/Loss Margin
Louisiana-Monroe 6-6 W by 18
BYU 11-2 W by 8
Oklahoma #4 11-2 L by 41
UAB 2-10 W by 8
UTEP 4-8 L by 1
Marshall 3-9 W by 7
UCF 10-4 L by 21
Southern Methodist 1-11 W by 6
Tulane 4-8 W by 24
Houston 8-5 W by 49
Army 3-9 W by 10
Rice 3-9 W by 5
UCF 10-4 L by 19
Quality Wins
BYU
Houston
BG's Schedule/Results
Team: Overall Record Win/Loss Margin
Minnesota 1-11 W by 1
MSU 7-6 L by 11
Temple 4-8 W by 13
WKU 7-5 W by 20
BC #7 11-3 L by 31
Miami(OH) 6-7 L by 33
Kent 3-9 W by 11
Ohio 6-6 L by 11
Akron 4-8 W by 24
Eastern Mich. 4-8 W by 7
Buffalo 5-7 W by 14
Toledo 5-7 W by 27
Quality Wins?
Funny -- you mention the Houston win as quality and we beat them by 49.
Our offense is going to score.
If you want to talk overall team ability, then I'll give that to you. Our d and special teams are weak. But the offense is kind of a big deal.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:45 pm
by Dayons_Den
We were running a high powered spread offense under Urban Meyer in 2001 and 2002 while Tulsa went a comined 2-21 during those two years.
The M.A.C. isn't a "little Big Ten" anymore as our defense has played against similar offenses, we won't be starry eyed when you throw a ton and spread out the field to run.
Paul Smith's TD/INT ratio and yards are nice but they aren't 2004 GMAC Bowl MVP Omar Jacob's 41-4.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:48 pm
by cowboyjoe
Our defense plays against one of the best offenses in the nation every day in practice.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:38 am
by mmisbg
I think we all should be concerned about Tulsa's offense. Their offensive production is very impressive.
Not that I'm projecting a BG win, but there is one stat that draws my attention. Tulsa has D-IA's best offense...statistically, as I understand. However, their average margin of victory is just over 4 points.
The CUSA offensive stats are off the charts. Their offensive stats are higher than any other conference I've seen.
Either their offenses are really just that good, or their defenses are really just that bad. Maybe it is a little of both.
I am concered about Tulsa's offense. They will score. Probably a lot.
However, I'm tempted to think that CUSA defenses are bad on a level that the MAC does not parallel. Not that our defenses are at all good. I just hope that our defense can slow Tulsa down enough to allow our offense to do their jobs.
One thing is probably true: the analysts say it will be a high scoring game. The GMAC usually is, and this will probably be no exception.
Go Falcons!
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:55 am
by jpfalcon09
Bring 'em on. You saw tonight with Hawaii what happens when you're offense is one-dimensional. Tulsa has a running game, but their main threat is passing. Obviously, we don't have the talent Georgia has on defense, but it can serve as some sort of crystal ball of what happens when you scheme and plan well against a high-powered offense.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:09 am
by 1987alum
I think we have a good chance to win this game, but to dismiss Tulsa's offense is dangerous. It's not like their offense has been good - it's the top offense in the country.
It doesn't help that we'll be missing our leading tackler (Haneline) and our best pass rusher (Briggs). We're putting a WR with a bad hand in the defensive backfield, which makes me wonder if our academic casualities came from that part of the roster.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:30 am
by Jacobs4Heisman
Turnovers and Red Zone. Both teams should move the ball at will.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:24 am
by h2oville rocket
1987alum wrote:I think we have a good chance to win this game, but to dismiss Tulsa's offense is dangerous.
Actually a bunch of guys dismissing Tulsa's offense on a sports bulletin board poses no threat whatsoever to BG's chances in this game.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:25 am
by 1987alum
h2oville rocket wrote:1987alum wrote:I think we have a good chance to win this game, but to dismiss Tulsa's offense is dangerous.
Actually a bunch of guys dismissing Tulsa's offense on a sports bulletin board poses no threat whatsoever to BG's chances in this game.

Good point. Perhaps foolish would have been a better choice of words.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:45 am
by Falconfreak90
Tulsa can move the ball and score points...you cannot debate that. I feel our D has improved thru the year and was playing it's best at the end of the year...which is good. Briggs missing the game sux and hopefully Hardwick and Schaefer are healed and ready. They can still cause trouble in Tulsa's backfield. And Magnone has gotten solid reps this season as well...
One way to help our D is the O controlling the tempo of the game. We need to run the ball effectively so our D isn't out there too often.
This should be one of the best games of the bowl season.
GO BG!!
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:22 am
by Gold*
Dayons_Den wrote:We were running a high powered spread offense under Urban Meyer in 2001 and 2002 while Tulsa went a comined 2-21 during those two years.
The M.A.C. isn't a "little Big Ten" anymore as our defense has played against similar offenses, we won't be starry eyed when you throw a ton and spread out the field to run.
Paul Smith's TD/INT ratio and yards are nice but they aren't 2004 GMAC Bowl MVP Omar Jacob's 41-4.
I didn't know that what happened in '01 or '02 would matter now. Our OC was still coaching high school then.
I think it'll be a good game. We had some injuries to important guys that will be near full strength for Sunday. Should be fun. One guy I'm really exited about is Charles Clay. He's close to 1,000 yards receiving, but is also a good ball carrier. He had a stress fracture and didn't get that many carries down the stretch.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:46 am
by RobbyFalcon
Yes, even if we had all of our starters.
Go BG!
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:16 pm
by Dayons_Den
Gold* wrote:Dayons_Den wrote:We were running a high powered spread offense under Urban Meyer in 2001 and 2002 while Tulsa went a comined 2-21 during those two years.
The M.A.C. isn't a "little Big Ten" anymore as our defense has played against similar offenses, we won't be starry eyed when you throw a ton and spread out the field to run.
Paul Smith's TD/INT ratio and yards are nice but they aren't 2004 GMAC Bowl MVP Omar Jacob's 41-4.
I didn't know that what happened in '01 or '02 would matter now. Our OC was still coaching high school then.
It matters because our staff has been exposed to your style of offense while your OC was writing passes to get 16 and 17 year olds out of detention

Our staff is experienced in defending this style of offense and yes the numbers are very impressive but not in a ratio or style that is completely alien to us.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:18 pm
by thewebboy
Tulsa has a good reason to be worried too.
According to my research, the MAC has beat C-USA 5 out of the 6 years that these conferences have met in this game.