Bowl Game & '05

Omar4Heisman · Post by **Omar4Heisman** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:24 pm

I am going to assume BG will be getting a bowl bid in the coming days. I hope the team rebounds from this 2nd half choke job and gets a victory.

As has been mentioned in a couple other threads, 2005 could be the year of the Falcon. I think BG can win at both Wisconsin and Boise State (I realize both tough places to play) and be the '05 version of Utah as the BCS-buster. Assuming BG stays in the MAC West, they get UT and NIU at home, so they should beat them both and take care of the rest of the division without much trouble.

If BG goes to the East, I don't see that any team over there is close to BG. Miami should be good, but it BG will clearly be the better team and hopefully they will get the Redhawks at home after playing in Oxford last year.

Let's put this loss tonight behind us and look to the future. The future of Falcon football is bright. A second consecutive bowl victory will do wonders and could lead to great things in 2005.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:27 pm

Sorry, not ready for that right now. The future has positive points, but until this team proves it can win in the MAC on the road in a big game, the future is only to be good not great.

If we have to wait until all the key games are at home, we're not a quality program. This was a test and we failed, again, and I'm not ready to think about it.

bgou · Post by **bgou** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:34 pm

orangeandbrown wrote:Sorry, not ready for that right now. The future has positive points, but until this team proves it can win in the MAC on the road in a big game, the future is only to be good not great.

If we have to wait until all the key games are at home, we're not a quality program. This was a test and we failed, again, and I'm not ready to think about it.

Amen.

Omar4Heisman · Post by **Omar4Heisman** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:40 pm

Hey...I am just trying to be positive about the things this program has done in the last four years. For three of the years I was in school and the couple after I left in the mid to late 90s, the BG-UT game didn't mean a damn thing other than pride. This program is not great, yet, but you have to be good before you can be great. This is a good program. They have a chance to become great in 2005.

Tonight was hell for all of us. The team needs to get over it quickly and look forward and so do fans.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:45 pm

That depends on how you look to the future, AJ. If you look to the future with a hard eye toward figuring out why this keeps happening, that's OK. If you look to the future with the idea that everything is fine, than the future might be bright, but the now won't ever be. You have the feel the sting of defeat for a while before you start looking hard for answers.

MAC Championships in last four years--0
Division Titles--1
Major conference road wins--0.

AJatBG · Post by **AJatBG** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:54 pm

Well, I look at the future knowing I cant change the past. I know that Omar cannot feel good right now. I know Omar and whomever the coach might be in 2 years will not let a repeat of tonites second half performance happen again. I look at the future(and knowing how I fell right now) and feel comfort in Omar leading our team to victories next year at he Doyt and in 2 Years at the Glass Bowl. I know alot can happen, but the look on Omars face towards the end of the game made me feel good inside knowing the he will not let that happen again. Call me in 2 years and say that Im wrong, but I dont think a player of Omars magnitude would let a game slip away from him like it did tonite.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:57 pm

AJatBG wrote:Well, I look at the future knowing I cant change the past. I know that Omar cannot feel good right now. I know Omar and whomever the coach might be in 2 years will not let a repeat of tonites second half performance happen again. I look at the future(and knowing how I fell right now) and feel comfort in Omar leading our team to victories next year at he Doyt and in 2 Years at the Glass Bowl. I know alot can happen, but the look on Omars face towards the end of the game made me feel good inside knowing the he will not let that happen again. Call me in 2 years and say that Im wrong, but I dont think a player of Omars magnitude would let a game slip away from him like it did tonite.

A. They already let it happen again once, since the same thing happened at NIU.

B. I'm glad you "know" it won't happen again. That makes me feel better.

C. No, you can't change the past. But you can repeat it.

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:58 pm

I felt worse for Omar and Cole at the end of tonight's game than anybody else. Omar was down on a knee with his head in his hands. It shows that he wants to win more than anything.

He will be a great quarterback for us next year tossing it to Chuck and Steve Sanders, no doubt, and the team as a whole will be solid, but I'll talk about next year at a later time. Tonight really hurts.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:02 am

BGGrad01 wrote:Tonight really hurts.

Amen. Just put my sobbing eight year old to bed. I told him we would get them next year, and he said "Cole won't have another chance."

AJatBG · Post by **AJatBG** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:14 am

Orange:

I Dont know you and U dont know me. But I have got the chance to meet, hang out with, and even drink with many of the BGSU football players this season. The mentality they have and have had will be severly hurt by this evening, but knowing some of the underclassmen as people and not just jerseys tends to give you a better perspective. I will see them in the next two weeks, get a chance to talk with them, and get a feel for the feelings they have. You cant just assume a coaching staff, what u see on TV, and how they appeared to act will dictate the future. They will be let down and feel they let down a community. They are good people. But, there is no way one Omar Jacobs will let his team fall victim to Toledo again. Home or Away. He has the talent and is very close to leadership of one Josh Harris. BTW, the numbers that Omar has put up has made us forget about J5, but the leadership qualities that Josh brought could not be repeated at such an early stage. Omar looked up to Josh for his leadership abilities and tonite had the chance to prove himself. Omar will feel he let the team down and will make sure it never ever happens again. I cant predict the future, but as a Falcon fan, feel beyond comfortable with the Man leading my team. Thank you for a great season Omar and hopefully we will get one more game this year.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:21 am

I hope you are right. Knowing players personally doesn't always give you a better perspective. I'm not saying they don't care, I'm just saying they have to search hard for answers to change what has happened.

Josh Harris never won at Toledo, either. Or any big MAC road games that I can recall. It goes beyond specific players, and is an indictment of the entire program. I'm not assuming anything based on how they acted. I am basing it on what they did, was get embarassed in the second half on the road of a major MAC game. Again.

Omar is a great player, and he had a great season, better than we had any right to expect. The entire team played poorly tonight. As they have done before in similar situations.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:25 am

As badly as we feel, NIU has to feel worse. They surely thought the MAC West was there's whne we were up by 20.

The last step we need to make will be the hardest. Very few teams win on the road in the MAC. UT did it this year and they are champs. We didn't so we're rigth where we belong, behind the two teams in the West that beat us like drums.

Hey, maybe we'll stay in the West and we'll get UT and NIU at home and we'll handle things because we most always do at the Doyt. What will that prove?

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:05 am

2005: BG gets to return the favor and blow their QB's senior season.
2006: Omar will get his chance to make up for last night.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:20 am

Meanwhile, we are, at best, the #2 or #3 program in our division.

windycityfalcon · Post by **windycityfalcon** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:31 pm

I think both sides have something to gripe about.
Lets look to the future and possibilities of next year, but also fix what's broken.. and why we can't win big games.