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New Defense
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:55 pm
by MotorCityChamps
Just a thought for our defense for next season. Switch to a 3-4, zone blitx style of defense. ala pittsburgh steelers.
I would switch our 2 undersized but quick DE's(crossley and Parks) to OLB to rush the passer and play some coverage.....their size is perfect and they fit the mold of some of pittsburghs better OLB(porter, gildon, haggans, brown, etc.)
Then the 3 down lineman could be all in the DT mold. Our current ones would have to do for now, but the bigger the guys the better they hold up blockers at let our LBs(reese, crossley, parks, haneline, etc.) use their size(good for LB) and spped to make plays.
Lets be honest coach beckmans defense is not working, and I think this would be a good option for the players we are getting.
05 front seven
DE Thaler 6-1 277
NG Leiniger 6-3 279
DE Cooley 6-2 276
OLB Crossley 6-3 248 / Reese 6-3 227
MLB Haneline 6-2 225 / Winovich 6-3 230
MLB Schaefer 6-4 250 / White 5-10 232
OLB Parks 6-3 239 / Sharpe 5-11 220
this would add some size to our line up and hopefully help us get pressure on the QB, along with stopping the run
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:57 pm
by Flipper
Reese is gone, isn't he?
Our defense wouldn't be nearly the problem it is at times if we'd just make the tackles that are in front of us
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:57 pm
by MotorCityChamps
Jenkins Reese is a RS Freshman
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:00 pm
by Flipper
C'mon, try for three....
He's still gone, though
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:01 pm
by able1
Reese IS gone, and you forgot to mention next years probable starter at MLB.... Teddy Piepkow. Well, middle or not, he's going to be back.
I wouldn't mind seeing some 3-4 thrown in there when it's called for, but we won't be ready to run it full time next year.
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:32 pm
by Cork
I'm not sure that 3-4 or 4-3 is not just semantics anymore. Our DE's can always drop into the seam depending on the coverage. Actually, our tackles drop back sometimes also.
I was really hoping Reese would be a stud LB for us. We are already weak there. Are we sure he's gone?
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:06 pm
by able1
Good point about the difference between 3-4 and 4-3. Our set often becomes more of a 3-4 at the snap.
And one more time.... REESE IS GONE.
I was looking forward to seeing how he would turn out too, but it's not going to happen. I'm not sure what to expect from our linebackers in the future, but right now I definitely don't feel concerned. Piepkow provides the leadership we will need. I really don't have a clue if they will put him in the middle or not, but purely from a leadership and experience point of view, it would make sense. He backed up Burkes there this year.
Our starting linebackers will likely be chosen from the following next year:
Piepkow 6'0" 228 Sr
Sharp 5'11" 220 Sr
White 5'10" 232 Jr
Johnson 6'1" 232 Sr
Winovich 6'3" 230 Soph
That still leaves:
Schaefer 6'4" 250 fr
Haneline 6'2" 225 fr
Jakubowski 6'1" 217 soph
Who should all see playing time. That's not all the LB's we have coming back either. Many of them are somewhat unproven, but I think we will be fine.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:57 pm
by Flipper
Shaefer will be a DE....or maybe a TE. I think Haenline and Winovich are going to earn some major time, but we'll see.
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:58 pm
by rc_ziggy84
How about some guys put on some major weight?
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:00 pm
by Falconfreak90
rc_ziggy84 wrote:How about some guys put on some major weight?
Piepkow 6'0" 228 Sr
Sharp 5'11" 220 Sr
White 5'10" 232 Jr
Johnson 6'1" 232 Sr
Winovich 6'3" 230 Soph
Actually, those are some of the heavier weights we've had for LB's the last few years.
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:07 pm
by kdog27
Falconfreak90 wrote:rc_ziggy84 wrote:How about some guys put on some major weight?
Piepkow 6'0" 228 Sr
Sharp 5'11" 220 Sr
White 5'10" 232 Jr
Johnson 6'1" 232 Sr
Winovich 6'3" 230 Soph
Actually, those are some of the heavier weights we've had for LB's the last few years.
and for those guys height there weight is actually pretty normal. I would like to see more weight on the D line but not in the linebackers.
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:10 pm
by Flipper
If you want to put some pounds on those boys, put them over in MacDonald quad. Every girl I knew that lived there put on at least 20lbs.
(I'm going to keep using that joke on every thread that mentions the need for heavier defensive players)
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:14 pm
by orangeandbrown
To thine ownself be true, Flip.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:22 am
by Cork
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:29 am
by Cork
able1 wrote:Good point about the difference between 3-4 and 4-3. Our set often becomes more of a 3-4 at the snap.
And one more time.... REESE IS GONE.
I was looking forward to seeing how he would turn out too, but it's not going to happen. I'm not sure what to expect from our linebackers in the future, but right now I definitely don't feel concerned. Piepkow provides the leadership we will need. I really don't have a clue if they will put him in the middle or not, but purely from a leadership and experience point of view, it would make sense. He backed up Burkes there this year.
Our starting linebackers will likely be chosen from the following next year:
Piepkow 6'0" 228 Sr
Sharp 5'11" 220 Sr
White 5'10" 232 Jr
Johnson 6'1" 232 Sr
Winovich 6'3" 230 Soph
That still leaves:
Schaefer 6'4" 250 fr
Haneline 6'2" 225 fr
Jakubowski 6'1" 217 soph
Who should all see playing time. That's not all the LB's we have coming back either. Many of them are somewhat unproven, but I think we will be fine.
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I have seen White lay some big hits and Piepkow's interception against Marshall was great, but I'm still concerned. We need a couple of players with the heart of the O'Neil boys from years ago. That position determines if we can make it to a top 20 ranking next year.
Maybe we have a couple of juco's coming in.