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According to http://footballcoachscoop.com/Scoop.html, Rob Ianello is going to be named HC at Akron tomorrow. Rob Ianello has been the WR coach at ND. Hmm ... sound familiar?

We'll see. For every Urban Meyer, there's a Moe Ankney out there.

1987alum wrote:We'll see. For every Urban Meyer, there's a Moe Ankney out there.

Or a Gregg Brandon.

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bgsufalcon24 wrote:

1987alum wrote:We'll see. For every Urban Meyer, there's a Moe Ankney out there.

Or a Gregg Brandon.

Cue Cowboyjoe in 5...4...3...2...1

At least Gregg Brandon won more games than he lost and got us to 3 bowl games. Hell Ankney never made it over .500 in the 5 years he was here. It didn't work out for GB here in the end but he was hardly Moe Ankney.

Falconfreak90 wrote:

bgsufalcon24 wrote:

1987alum wrote:We'll see. For every Urban Meyer, there's a Moe Ankney out there.

Or a Gregg Brandon.

Cue Cowboyjoe in 5...4...3...2...1

At least Gregg Brandon won more games than he lost and got us to 3 bowl games. Hell Ankney never made it over .500 in the 5 years he was here. It didn't work out for GB here in the end but he was hardly Moe Ankney.

I guess the team wasn't good enough or relevant enough to have the amount of gut wrenching defeats that we suffered through under Brandon.

The strange thing about the Brandon era were the great highs and great lows. We had games like 2003 Northern Illinois, 2003 Toledo, 2004 Memphis, 2005 Temple, 2005 Miami, 2007 Minnesota, 2007 Toledo, and 2008 Pittsburgh which were all either wins over tough opponents/rival teams/biggest blowout in Perry Stadium history. And then on the flip side you had 2004 Toledo, 2005 Western Michigan, 2006 Temple, 2007 Miami, 2007 Tulsa, 2008 Eastern Michigan, 2008 Miami, and 2008 Buffalo, all games where you just wanted to scream and punch somebody after watching such terror. There was just no consistency at all from week to week. In the end, we were 24-24 from 2005-2008, about as average as can be, but the individual games were anything but average.

It's true that at the end of the Brandon era, we were middle of the road. But we absolutely cannot deny all the great things he did do for the program. The big wins, the national attention (when it was for the right reasons), and a lot of big players.

That all being said, we've got a really great coach now. I'm very happy with him, and I don't think any coach in the MAC, not the top current winner Butch Jones, not the two time national champ winner Frank Solich, and not the new guy on the block Rob Ianello stack up against Dave Clawson.

Gregg Brandon started off great and had some great years as head coach. At first when he took over he coached with passion and emotion. His last season I didnt see any emotion from him at all. I didnt really think that they would let him go so soon but I saw it coming. He had a good run at BG and did some great things for the program. It will be hard for a coach to have the success that Brandon did with an 11 win season, MAC west champions 2003 and 3 bowl games (Im just thinking off the top of my head, I could be wrong). I think he just ran into problems when his system was not working the way he wanted it to and instead of changing it up he just kept running the same system and that ended up costing him.

We all know how well the last head coached hired from Notre Dame worked out.

LowryFalcon wrote:Gregg Brandon started off great and had some great years as head coach. At first when he took over he coached with passion and emotion. His last season I didnt see any emotion from him at all. I didnt really think that they would let him go so soon but I saw it coming. He had a good run at BG and did some great things for the program. It will be hard for a coach to have the success that Brandon did with an 11 win season, MAC west champions 2003 and 3 bowl games (Im just thinking off the top of my head, I could be wrong). I think he just ran into problems when his system was not working the way he wanted it to and instead of changing it up he just kept running the same system and that ended up costing him.

Greg Brandon's troubles started when the players Urban Meyer recruited and coached graduated. Brandon didn't inspire the same committment from the players he recruited. Fantastic offensive mind, just not head coach material.

bgsufalcon24 wrote:

Falconfreak90 wrote:

bgsufalcon24 wrote:

1987alum wrote:We'll see. For every Urban Meyer, there's a Moe Ankney out there.

Or a Gregg Brandon.

Cue Cowboyjoe in 5...4...3...2...1

At least Gregg Brandon won more games than he lost and got us to 3 bowl games. Hell Ankney never made it over .500 in the 5 years he was here. It didn't work out for GB here in the end but he was hardly Moe Ankney.

I guess the team wasn't good enough or relevant enough to have the amount of gut wrenching defeats that we suffered through under Brandon.

The strange thing about the Brandon era were the great highs and great lows. We had games like 2003 Northern Illinois, 2003 Toledo, 2004 Memphis, 2005 Temple, 2005 Miami, 2007 Minnesota, 2007 Toledo, and 2008 Pittsburgh which were all either wins over tough opponents/rival teams/biggest blowout in Perry Stadium history. And then on the flip side you had 2004 Toledo, 2005 Western Michigan, 2006 Temple, 2007 Miami, 2007 Tulsa, 2008 Eastern Michigan, 2008 Miami, and 2008 Buffalo, all games where you just wanted to scream and punch somebody after watching such terror. There was just no consistency at all from week to week. In the end, we were 24-24 from 2005-2008, about as average as can be, but the individual games were anything but average.

How can you not mention the win over Purdue in 2003? Moe inherited and recruited talent and could not win. This was obvious when Coach B won 2 straight MAC titles and bowls when he took over. Moe was a DC, but not a head coach. Brandon was much better than Moe.

We haven't won a Conference title since 1992. In fact, we have only been to the title game once, 2003 when we got smoked by Miami at home. Brandon did a lot of great things during his tenure, but he didn't win a conference title.
I think we are a lot farther away from our next one than people think. Losing Barnes and Sheehan is going to really hurt more than most people on this board think. Next year will be a rebuilding year in my opinion.

tiznow wrote:

bgsufalcon24 wrote:

Falconfreak90 wrote:

bgsufalcon24 wrote:

1987alum wrote:We'll see. For every Urban Meyer, there's a Moe Ankney out there.

Or a Gregg Brandon.

Cue Cowboyjoe in 5...4...3...2...1

At least Gregg Brandon won more games than he lost and got us to 3 bowl games. Hell Ankney never made it over .500 in the 5 years he was here. It didn't work out for GB here in the end but he was hardly Moe Ankney.

I guess the team wasn't good enough or relevant enough to have the amount of gut wrenching defeats that we suffered through under Brandon.

The strange thing about the Brandon era were the great highs and great lows. We had games like 2003 Northern Illinois, 2003 Toledo, 2004 Memphis, 2005 Temple, 2005 Miami, 2007 Minnesota, 2007 Toledo, and 2008 Pittsburgh which were all either wins over tough opponents/rival teams/biggest blowout in Perry Stadium history. And then on the flip side you had 2004 Toledo, 2005 Western Michigan, 2006 Temple, 2007 Miami, 2007 Tulsa, 2008 Eastern Michigan, 2008 Miami, and 2008 Buffalo, all games where you just wanted to scream and punch somebody after watching such terror. There was just no consistency at all from week to week. In the end, we were 24-24 from 2005-2008, about as average as can be, but the individual games were anything but average.

How can you not mention the win over Purdue in 2003? Moe inherited and recruited talent and could not win. This was obvious when Coach B won 2 straight MAC titles and bowls when he took over. Moe was a DC, but not a head coach. Brandon was much better than Moe.

Gosh, 2003 really was a great year. I had that game pegged as only our 3rd biggest win that year, so I didn't include it. But you're right, without that victory, maybe the others later don't happen. That was a big deal win.

bgsufalcon24 wrote:

tiznow wrote:

bgsufalcon24 wrote:

Falconfreak90 wrote:

bgsufalcon24 wrote:

1987alum wrote:We'll see. For every Urban Meyer, there's a Moe Ankney out there.

Or a Gregg Brandon.

Cue Cowboyjoe in 5...4...3...2...1

At least Gregg Brandon won more games than he lost and got us to 3 bowl games. Hell Ankney never made it over .500 in the 5 years he was here. It didn't work out for GB here in the end but he was hardly Moe Ankney.

I guess the team wasn't good enough or relevant enough to have the amount of gut wrenching defeats that we suffered through under Brandon.

The strange thing about the Brandon era were the great highs and great lows. We had games like 2003 Northern Illinois, 2003 Toledo, 2004 Memphis, 2005 Temple, 2005 Miami, 2007 Minnesota, 2007 Toledo, and 2008 Pittsburgh which were all either wins over tough opponents/rival teams/biggest blowout in Perry Stadium history. And then on the flip side you had 2004 Toledo, 2005 Western Michigan, 2006 Temple, 2007 Miami, 2007 Tulsa, 2008 Eastern Michigan, 2008 Miami, and 2008 Buffalo, all games where you just wanted to scream and punch somebody after watching such terror. There was just no consistency at all from week to week. In the end, we were 24-24 from 2005-2008, about as average as can be, but the individual games were anything but average.

How can you not mention the win over Purdue in 2003? Moe inherited and recruited talent and could not win. This was obvious when Coach B won 2 straight MAC titles and bowls when he took over. Moe was a DC, but not a head coach. Brandon was much better than Moe.

Gosh, 2003 really was a great year. I had that game pegged as only our 3rd biggest win that year, so I didn't include it. But you're right, without that victory, maybe the others later don't happen. That was a big deal win.

Remember, Purdue was #16 in the country at the time. If BG doesn't win that game, they are 5-2 going in against NIU, and GameDay probably doesn't show up. Then it is just another MAC game, instead of one of the premier games in the country that week (and on a Saturday, no less). Wow, what an impact ESPN can have on a game and on a campus. I miss those days. Everything is just too watered down now.