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So, if the Big Ten expands and pilfers 2 or 3 schools from the Big East, will the BE start inviting MAC members to create a 10-12 team league? I'm not sure who else the BE could bring in given their geographic footprint and level of competition? I doubt any of the former schools would leave the ACC to rejoin a weakened Big East.

The issue, of course, would be basketball, where the BE is strong.

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I would think the Big East would target C-USA schools before MAC schools if they need to grab a few schools. If anyone maybe Temple because of the large market and strong sports. It would the MAC get back to 10 schools instead of the unbalanced divisions.

I'm not sure how I like all these conference re-alignments. Big Ten is thinking about it to make more money and "fill a gap." Seems like the top conferences will just get richer. While mid-majors will continue to slide unto we are kicked out of FBS and into FCS.
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falconjw wrote:Seems like the top conferences will just get richer. While mid-majors will continue to slide unto we are kicked out of FBS and into FCS.
But the MAC could bring in Western KY to keep the unbalanced conference and bring the quality of the conference up...or something...
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falconjw wrote:I would think the Big East would target C-USA schools before MAC schools if they need to grab a few schools. If anyone maybe Temple because of the large market and strong sports. It would the MAC get back to 10 schools instead of the unbalanced divisions.

I'm not sure how I like all these conference re-alignments. Big Ten is thinking about it to make more money and "fill a gap." Seems like the top conferences will just get richer. While mid-majors will continue to slide unto we are kicked out of FBS and into FCS.
I don't think C-USA fits their footprint. If there is massive conference realignment...which many have predicted...the C-USA schools will go to the WAC and MW. I could see the "top tier" MAC programs being sought by the left-over Big East schools...and maybe them picking up Marshall and Memphis...and the remaining schools in the MAC maintaining the conference and/or merging with the Sunbelt or dropping down to FCS.

Seems like some interesting movements are afoot. I think the PAC-10 and Big-10 and maybe even the Big-12 are ready to grow.
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The BE obviously has Philly covered, but Temple's gotta make sense. Especially if Temple football continues to get better.

There are also rumors about Memphis to the BE.
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dstubb wrote: I doubt any of the former schools would leave the ACC to rejoin a weakened Big East.

The issue, of course, would be basketball, where the BE is strong.

Ideas? Thoughts?
A "weakened Big East"? Are you kidding me? Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, South Florida and West Virginia? A "weakened Big East"? Not even to mention the basketball lineup of schools.....some of which don't have football teams.

Here's a simple fact for you.........and you have to consider that I live in Texas so I'm supposed to be partial to UT. If the University of Texas had not been allowed a "do-over" by the Big-Twelve referrees (who clearly didn't want them to lose to Nebraska) it would be UC in the national championship game rather than Texas. The computer rankings clearly show that fact. Frankly, I don't care because it's a lot easier for me to travel to New Orleans than it is to Pasadena.

I'll be rooting for the Falcons in the Humanitarian Bowl. Please return the favor and root for the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. I'll be there at the tune of $300 per night at the Royal Sonesta. Holy Smokes!! Like my cheap older (much older) brother, I'm more of a Super 8 or a La Quinta guy. This is incredible! However, it's only money.

God bless the loyal Falcon fans and Happy New Year! Good luck in your bowl game. You have a great WR and QB.
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TexCat wrote:
dstubb wrote: I doubt any of the former schools would leave the ACC to rejoin a weakened Big East.

The issue, of course, would be basketball, where the BE is strong.

Ideas? Thoughts?
A "weakened Big East"? Are you kidding me? Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, South Florida and West Virginia? A "weakened Big East"? Not even to mention the basketball lineup of schools.....some of which don't have football teams.

Here's a simple fact for you.........and you have to consider that I live in Texas so I'm supposed to be partial to UT. If the University of Texas had not been allowed a "do-over" by the Big-Twelve referrees (who clearly didn't want them to lose to Nebraska) it would be UC in the national championship game rather than Texas. The computer rankings clearly show that fact. Frankly, I don't care because it's a lot easier for me to travel to New Orleans than it is to Pasadena.

I'll be rooting for the Falcons in the Humanitarian Bowl. Please return the favor and root for the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. I'll be there at the tune of $300 per night at the Royal Sonesta. Holy Smokes!! Like my cheap older (much older) brother, I'm more of a Super 8 or a La Quinta guy. This is incredible! However, it's only money.

God bless the loyal Falcon fans and Happy New Year! Good luck in your bowl game. You have a great WR and QB.
Completely off topic and I don't really care, but you're actually wrong from what I remember hearing of the BCS. If Texas had lost to Nebraska, most people thought that TCU would have likely jumped over UC and they would have been in the national title game, NOT UC.
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It would be interesting to see if ANY Big East school accepted the Big Ten's offer. I say that because of basketball. The identity of many of the Big East schools is hoops, not football. It would be similar to Penn St joining the Big East to increase the profile of their basketball program.

I have read some reports where Missouri moves to the Big Ten, Arkansas "rejoins" the Big 12 (former Big 8 member), and Clemson then jumps to the SEC (rival with South Carolina).

The Big 'Ten' will have a conference Championship game. Indy's dome or Soldier Field would be great "neutral" sites.
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TexCat wrote:
dstubb wrote: I doubt any of the former schools would leave the ACC to rejoin a weakened Big East.

The issue, of course, would be basketball, where the BE is strong.

Ideas? Thoughts?
A "weakened Big East"? Are you kidding me? Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, South Florida and West Virginia? A "weakened Big East"? Not even to mention the basketball lineup of schools.....some of which don't have football teams.

Dude...follow along please. If the Big Ten takes 2 or 3 of those teams out of the Big East it will be weakened and too small. It would have to add football members to be viable.

I already mentioned the basketball issue. This thread was mere speculation, but if the Big Ten expands it will cause ripple effects across college football.
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SB-50 wrote:It would be interesting to see if ANY Big East school accepted the Big Ten's offer. I say that because of basketball. The identity of many of the Big East schools is hoops, not football. It would be similar to Penn St joining the Big East to increase the profile of their basketball program.

I have read some reports where Missouri moves to the Big Ten, Arkansas "rejoins" the Big 12 (former Big 8 member), and Clemson then jumps to the SEC (rival with South Carolina).

The Big 'Ten' will have a conference Championship game. Indy's dome or Soldier Field would be great "neutral" sites.
I think Big Ten hoops has enough credibility for a Big East school to jump. Pitt is not going to stay in the BE if offered a place in the Big Ten. I don't think any of the BE football schools would.

I have heard that the BT wants Mizzou, but Mizzou isn't really interested. I have heard Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Iowa State (Big 12) as viable options. I don't think OSU would ever allow Cincy in.
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dstubb wrote:
SB-50 wrote:It would be interesting to see if ANY Big East school accepted the Big Ten's offer. I say that because of basketball. The identity of many of the Big East schools is hoops, not football. It would be similar to Penn St joining the Big East to increase the profile of their basketball program.

I have read some reports where Missouri moves to the Big Ten, Arkansas "rejoins" the Big 12 (former Big 8 member), and Clemson then jumps to the SEC (rival with South Carolina).

The Big 'Ten' will have a conference Championship game. Indy's dome or Soldier Field would be great "neutral" sites.
I think Big Ten hoops has enough credibility for a Big East school to jump. Pitt is not going to stay in the BE if offered a place in the Big Ten. I don't think any of the BE football schools would.

I have heard that the BT wants Mizzou, but Mizzou isn't really interested. I have heard Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Iowa State (Big 12) as viable options. I don't think OSU would ever allow Cincy in.
Pitt has always made sense. When the Big East first started breaking up (BC and Miami leaving) I hoped the Big Ten would reach out to Pittsburgh. Rutgers and Syracuse would be costly for both programs. The non-revenue sports still have to travel for their games. Both of those schools would be flying all non-rev athletes to all away games. That would defintely eat into their profits.
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I want Pitt to join the big ten just to hear Mark May back track everything negative he has ever said about the Big Ten.
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dstubb wrote:
TexCat wrote:
dstubb wrote: I doubt any of the former schools would leave the ACC to rejoin a weakened Big East.

The issue, of course, would be basketball, where the BE is strong.

Ideas? Thoughts?
A "weakened Big East"? Are you kidding me? Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, South Florida and West Virginia? A "weakened Big East"? Not even to mention the basketball lineup of schools.....some of which don't have football teams.

Dude...follow along please. If the Big Ten takes 2 or 3 of those teams out of the Big East it will be weakened and too small. It would have to add football members to be viable.

I already mentioned the basketball issue. This thread was mere speculation, but if the Big Ten expands it will cause ripple effects across college football.

Why would the B11 expand with more than 1 team?
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SB-50 wrote:I have read some reports where Missouri moves to the Big Ten, Arkansas "rejoins" the Big 12 (former Big 8 member), and Clemson then jumps to the SEC (rival with South Carolina).
Any of these reports mention who the ACC would take to replace Clemson

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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Why would the B11 expand with more than 1 team?
Because 13 team conferences are all the rage in the Midwest.
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