PAT Forde on ESPN can go suck on EGG

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:33 pm

This is what was just said on ESPN.

Chris, Sandusky, OH: What does it say for the Mid American Conference to get 5 teams in?!

Pat Forde: (2:31 PM ET ) Chris: It says that Clemson and South Carolina did the league a big favor by getting in that brawl.

Hey PAT!!!! Go Suck on Egg

Your Terrible
And Ugly!!! I think you know the rest

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:45 pm

But its very true. If they both accept bowl bids Marshall is not in a bowl for sure. BG & NIU would be duking it out for a 3rd bid, with the other team staying home. If things worked the way they should, it would've went to NIU having beaten us, but with us getting the first bid, I wouldn't have been shocked if we were picked ahead of NIU.

Fact is the ONLY reason 5 MAC teams are in bowls is the lack of bowl eligible teams.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:46 pm

bgsufan1972:

Well, I'd be angry, but he's spot on.

According to my calculations, there is only one Bowl Eligible team that will not being going to a bowl. That would be those Akron Zips.

Let's not delude ourselves. If South Carolina and Clemson hadn't had a brawl, they would've gotten bowl bids and two MAC teams (Marshall and either NIU or BG) would have been howling and gnashing their collective teeth. Wait, if it were Marshall, they wouldn't have any teeth to grind ...

Sadly, he may be ugly, stupid and a bad cook, but he's right on this one.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:53 pm

I agree but he could have worded it a little differently like saying the MAC was very fortunate for what happened and maybe next year they will have 3 guaranteed spots, or something like that.

Falcon52 · Post by **Falcon52** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:57 pm

Listen, the MAC has paid it's dues. In fact, if we really went back and looked at the number of times crappy 6-5 Big Ten, Big 12 and Convict USA teams went to bowl games and much better MAC teams sat at home thinking what the "F", we would discover that the MAC is long over due and owed on this one. What everone should be saying is, it's about time! 10 years from now, most people won't remember. There won't be any * in a record book or anyhting negative. You will just see that 5 MAC teams were in bowls. Hopefully with 5 wins. I will say, Miami will probably lose. Toledo will choke on UCONN and NIU just isn't that strong. BG and Marshall should win.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:01 pm

Actually I think all 5 teams will win. I think the toughest game will be the BG - Memphis game, but I expect a 48 - 45 win. I think the MAC will go
5-0, and I think that will make it like 14-3 in the last 17 bowl games.

Keep winning bowl games maybe next year we will keep the 3rd guaranteed bowl

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:02 pm

Falcon52 wrote:Listen, the MAC has paid it's dues. In fact, if we really went back and looked at the number of times crappy 6-5 Big Ten, Big 12 and Convict USA teams went to bowl games and much better MAC teams sat at home thinking what the "F", we would discover that the MAC is long over due and owed on this one. What everone should be saying is, it's about time!

Going to a bowl is not necessarily about who had the better year. As discussed in multiple threads here, there are a lot of factors in play. The MAC is "owed" absolutely nothing. I will say that it's about damn time more than two MAC teams went to a bowl, but I'll temper that by saying it very well could end up being a fluke.

Falcon52 wrote:10 years from now, most people won't remember. There won't be any * ina record book or anyhting negative. You will just see that 5 MAC teams were in bowls. Hopefully with 5 wins. I will say, Miami will probably lose. Toledo will choke on UCONN and NIU just isn't that strong. BG and Marshall should win.

There may not be a physical askterisk, but there will be a mental one next to this year if the MAC cannot convert this year into more tie ins for next year and the years to come. Otherwise, we'll be sitting here next year at this time moaning and groaning about some deserving third MAC team that's sweating out the Hawaii-Michigan State game to see if they'll get a bowl bid.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:11 pm

bgsufan1972 wrote:This is what was just said on ESPN.

Chris, Sandusky, OH: What does it say for the Mid American Conference to get 5 teams in?!

Pat Forde: (2:31 PM ET ) Chris: It says that Clemson and South Carolina did the league a big favor by getting in that brawl.

Hey PAT!!!! Go Suck on Egg

Your Terrible
And Ugly!!! I think you know the rest

. . . . poor egg.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:17 pm

My pro-MAC position aside, I think most of these games are going to be real dog-fights, and the MAC team will have a tough time, BG included. That is my off-the-cuff feeling. I think the games are winnable.

I am hoping for five wins, but I'm not expecting it.

Though I will say I'd take four wins if Marshall drops their game to UC.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:20 pm

As much as I hate to say it, go Thundering Herd. It will hurt our win-loss percentage if they lose.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:22 pm

Nathan:

My initial feelings are quite similar.

Toledo: Facing a UConn team in its first bowl game, so the Huskies will be quite emotional. Scooter's absence could be the deciding factor, though Coach Imstufft has certainly taken control of second halves lately.

Miami: Missing their ace receiver after stumbling into a bowl. This is NOT the Redskin team of last year (sorry, can't do the RedHawk thing).

BG: Memphis is a very solid team. Last one with the ball wins.

Marshall: SinSinRatty is in the bottom 25th percentile of bowl eligible teams. That being said, so is Marshall.

Northern: As one poster on the NIU board said, it could be tough for a team to get up for a game that's so far from home played in front of a roomful of people.

Yep, 5 MAC wins would be nice, but a lot of things have to go right.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:41 pm

I think a more key problem for Miami is their QB. He reminds me of Bob Niemet. He has his moments, but is pitching speed balls way too much. I know three years of Big Ben means very few reps with the first team. But I expected him to be more calm than he was against Wee Detroit. He didn't do so well against Michigan either. Iowa State isn't good, but they aren't bad either.

UC whipped Miami better badly as well this year. The Herd still have a game left in them, but they have issues that are a lot deeper than their fans like to admit. If the Parolecats show up to play, the Herd could get in trouble.

NIU may be the weakest MAC team in a bowl this year. Stop the run, you stop the Huskies. Stop the pass, you can stop the run, and you stop the huskies. I know they are unhappy about where they have to play, but I think they are matched well against Troy. With some time to heal and plan, I think they can win though. Troy can't be underestimated though.

BG will have its hands full, and if the coaching staff is distracted, if the players are not at their best after nearly a month-long delay, we could get behind by a lot quickly. It is falling behind that worries me the most. On the other hand, I don't see a repeat of our last game, the Falcons always play better against OOC teams, and the seniors are pumped.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:43 pm

Nathan:

Yep, our seniors have got to be relieved to have a chance at a better legacy than the MACC implosion. Right now, I'm feeling very good about our coaching staff getting them ready and the team being totally focused.

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:34 pm

People it's December...stop harboring those intra-conference grudges! I know it seems like a sacrelig' thing to cheer for Toledo, NIU, and Miami but the better the conference performs in bowls the more potential invites next year. It's the BCS conferences that are the enemy this time of year.

Light and noise discipline, lock and load, Mobilize for Mobile!

bgmike29 · Post by **bgmike29** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:00 pm

Forde is right. The fight between Clemson and South Carolina did help the MAC get an extra bowl bid. Its unfortunate that it had to happen that way, but the MAC should take what it can get.

PAT Forde on ESPN can go suck on EGG

PAT Forde on ESPN can go suck on EGG

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