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Have really felt all year the offense has been designed to fail. Had a drive in the game of 19 plays for 62 yards, thats ridiculous. Heard about how great the WRs were gonna be this year but haven't seeen it. I really hope this changes next year because its reminded me of some of the offenses Brandon ran.

Offense line is the biggest problem. Remember back in the days with Omar at QB? He had all day every play to look for receivers. Pope never got hit behind the LOS. Those lines were very, very good. But, we haven't had those lines recently, and Stud is now at LSU and has developed some great lines. With a better, more continuous O line, I think this offense could have been far better.

I don't disagree that the offensive line has been the biggest issue. It has been very obvious tonight with Toledo's defensive front running in a straight line to Schilz with nobody stopping them. Our offensive line is really young and unbelievably unathletic. Not a good combo.

Even when Schilz had time to throw the ball, he didn't get much help from his receivers. Lots of drops all season and very little playmaking after the catch. After going to 3 games and watching most of the others online or TV, I can't believe that we haven't found room for Shaun Joplin to get on the field. I think it was the spring game where he looked really good, but he has 1 catch this year.

I hope that we can get a win next Friday to avoid the first double digit loss season in the history of BGSU football.

"I hope that we can get a win next Friday to avoid the first double digit loss season in the history of BGSU football."


BG GRAD 01, the key words are I hope! We need lots of hope for the this team this season. Let's HOPE for better results next season.

It also doesn't help that Schilz has no "escapabilty" at all and does not throw very accurate at all on the run---bad combination when the offensive line is like it is. That 4th down quarterback draw was a disgrace as far as Schilz's effort. He ran like he was running on eggs. Brutal. Again a huge momentum killer when he threw the pick in our own end. Not sure why we went for a 37 yard field goal with 10 minutes left in the game and with the score what it was. Just rambling....that's what happens when the Rockets beat you.

I agree the line has been garbage, but all the offense has consisted of is screen passes and 2-3 yard drag and out routes. Its as vanilla as it gets and makes BG very easy to stop. I understand the "talent" isn't there, but the current scheme is very poor and doesn't change unless the team is down by 2-3 scores.

Also as a side note, the defense and special teams created the TDs again tonight. Yes, the offense scored but it was predicated off the INT deep in UT territory. The ability for the team to drive down the field hasn't been shown since the Marshall game, and that is severely disappointing to me.

debtzoomba wrote:It also doesn't help that Schilz has no "escapabilty" at all and does not throw very accurate at all on the run---bad combination when the offensive line is like it is. That 4th down quarterback draw was a disgrace as far as Schilz's effort. He ran like he was running on eggs. Brutal. Again a huge momentum killer when he threw the pick in our own end. Not sure why we went for a 37 yard field goal with 10 minutes left in the game and with the score what it was. Just rambling....that's what happens when the Rockets beat you.

The field goal attempt was VERY puzzling- if successful, and BG has struggled with kicks all year, it still left BG down 16 or 2 tds with both TDS needing 2 xtra points just to tie. A TD cuts the lead to 13, 12 or 11 depending on how the XP went. Then BG needs only two TDs to win, assuming Toledo didn't score. The FG was all but pointless(no pun intended). I think UT wins the coaching battle this time around.

So the line is bad, why do we go with the immobile QB when we are loaded with athletic QBs? Maybe we didnt need to make a complete change but rotating a series between Shilz and a more athletic guy probably would have helped win some games. Collier-Watkins-Tanski-Bayer-Rieke(?) all were athletic HS QBs. It may have stunted their growth at other positions but it would have given us a more athletic option at the position making the offensive line liability not matter as much.

This offense has just been brutal for the bulk of the year, if it isn't better next year then I will be VERY disappointed.

Schilz has a big arm, but is not very mobile in the pocket, can't throw on the run, and really isn't the most accurate QB even when he is standing in the pocket. This was NOT a good combo to go with an OL that couldn't sustain blocks all season long. I think Schilz has a lot of talent, and he very well could end up being a great QB by the time he's done here. However, I don't think he showed enough this year to have the job locked up for next season. We redshirted some talented QBs this year, there is no doubt in my mind they will be given an opportunity to win the job next season.

The real story on offense all year has been the offensive line. They've dealt with injuries, and the depth has been proven to be non-existent. We've brought DL guys over, and the results have been just bad. The run game never seems to have any openings. The passing game has rarely had time to take any real shots downfield.

That leads to the scheme...there is no doubt that the offensive scheme we've run this year has very little chance of success. You cannot succeed with running and quick hitting passes with the skillsets of our players. We haven't been able to protect our QB to go deep, so our passing game has morphed into that conglomeration of quick hitches, outs, drags, and screens. This sort of passing game REALLY doesn't fit with Schilz's skillset, as he isn't the most accurate passer. Due to Schilz's limitations with mobility we haven't been able to do a lot of moving the pocket with designed rollouts that could help mask the porous OL either.

I'm hopeful, and somewhat optimistic, that we will see a drastically improved offense next season. From what we saw of Pankratz I think it was clear that Schilz was our best QB, but it is VERY difficult to win with a QB of his skillset if you cannot also protect them. And, of course, he was also only a RS Freshman, so hopefully in the future he'd be able to get rid of the ball a touch quicker as well.

A porous OL and a freshman pocket passing QB is a recipe for disaster...

I think the most disappointing thing for me is that Schilz seems to have no pocket presence whatsoever. I would have hoped that after most of the year with all the OL problems that he would have improved in some regard but I just don't see it. So I totally agree that he has no lock on the job next year at all.

The more painful thing is the utter lack of recognition by the coaching staff about which situations the defense is going to blitz in. I don't think I saw us with the right call all year when the defense blitzed!

hammb wrote:Schilz has a big arm, but is not very mobile in the pocket, can't throw on the run, and really isn't the most accurate QB even when he is standing in the pocket. This was NOT a good combo to go with an OL that couldn't sustain blocks all season long. I think Schilz has a lot of talent, and he very well could end up being a great QB by the time he's done here. However, I don't think he showed enough this year to have the job locked up for next season. We redshirted some talented QBs this year, there is no doubt in my mind they will be given an opportunity to win the job next season.

Gotta say that it seems like he regressed this season. Early on, I was very impressed and we were putting up some decent offensive numbers. But more recently, I seem to be more disappointed. A lot of his throws are not on target. I would not at all be surprised to see some one else at QB next season.

Warthog wrote:

hammb wrote:Schilz has a big arm, but is not very mobile in the pocket, can't throw on the run, and really isn't the most accurate QB even when he is standing in the pocket. This was NOT a good combo to go with an OL that couldn't sustain blocks all season long. I think Schilz has a lot of talent, and he very well could end up being a great QB by the time he's done here. However, I don't think he showed enough this year to have the job locked up for next season. We redshirted some talented QBs this year, there is no doubt in my mind they will be given an opportunity to win the job next season.

Gotta say that it seems like he regressed this season. Early on, I was very impressed and we were putting up some decent offensive numbers. But more recently, I seem to be more disappointed. A lot of his throws are not on target. I would not at all be surprised to see some one else at QB next season.

Agreed. Of course the OL was better early in the year than it was down the stretch, and he did have the shoulder injury...who knows if he's ever gotten back to 100% as the year has gone on.

Overall, though, I agree. He has seemed less accurate in the late season, and I definitely think the job should be open to competition again next offseason. I wouldn't change just to change, but if one of the younger kids looks better in camp, I'd certainly head that direction.

I do think a QB competition between Schilz, Hurley, and Watkins would be very interesting. It seems like Pagel has been passed up, but you never know, he may come on strong next year. Whatever happens, good competition will make every QB involved better.

MarkL wrote:I do think a QB competition between Schilz, Hurley, and Watkins would be very interesting. It seems like Pagel has been passed up, but you never know, he may come on strong next year. Whatever happens, good competition will make every QB involved better.

Dont forget about our new recruit Johnson who is well thought of.

Plus...where was the wildcat? We always seem to get 4-5 yards when we run that formation and only one more game where we see Geter "zig-zag" for 2 yards. Like Bullock last year, Hopgood runs downhill which is what we need with a poor offensive line. We have to move the pile a little bit.