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Alright, so here's a topic that's in the news again. Paying players (legally) to play. I personally think that this is all getting out of hand, and it's ruining the integrity of the game. Now with all the blue chipping going on, and cash handshake allegations with the bigger schools, it really saddens me. And I think the Fiesta Bowl news just scratches the surface on how corrupt the BCS is. But anyways, I don't think college athletes should be paid. Playing football is a priviledge, not a right. If a player/players family can't afford to travel across the nation to play, stay in state, or get a job in the summer to pay for your school year expenses. Anyways, just my 2 cents!!

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Takeoffeh: I agree with everything you said except one thing a priviledge to play. Most D1 play for the love of the game and hopefully move on to the next level. Yes they get money to attend school but a very high percentage of football player don't graduate and leave with nothing. This topic has been around for forty years and the players will never be payed. To much money involved. Today with the major cuts in school funding the trustee's will get theirs first. To bad, most player can't afford to go to a movie. The top 15 programs in the country will stay that way with alums doing what they came to keep touchdown Joe happy. A player and staff put huge hours in to make the program a winner. All top 15 teams travel well and bowls really like that? The amount of money a player gets to play football and the time they put in is huge , but give them something so they can have money to do things on campus. The big programs, the players get paid well, Most readers won't like this question. How dirty is Ohio State? Doesn't matter. They travel fifty or sixty thousand every away game and Mr Tressel ( 3.5 mill ) smiles and everyone just love's him right Markl

I'm not sure what the percentage of players that don't graduate is, I'd like to see that stat. And I agree, it is too much money to pay college athletes...especially the smaller D1 schools. I hope it never happens. I'm not saying it doesn't get tight (financially) for these players during the school year, b/c it does. But for those athletes that don't have money coming in from parents, they need to get a job in the summer, when they are allowed to work.

birdman wrote:Most D1 play for the love of the game and hopefully move on to the next level.

I estimate that less than 1% of D1 college athletes go on to get paid to play sports.

Sam Keller, old QB from ASU and then Nebraska, has made the argument that EA Sports is illegally making profit off the players' likeness, and I believe it's still in court. Example: Take NCAA Football 2006. It was released for fall 2005 football season. Michigan's QB shows up as QB #7, a sophomore, but if you change his name to Chad Henne, then Corso and Kirk say "Henne." There are many pre-recorded common names, like Smith, Jones, Turner, Chang, etc. But c'mon, who knows somebody personally with the last name of Henne? Add to that, QB #7 has the same build, same physique, etc as Chad Henne did after the 2004 football season. Keller has a legitimate point, that the university profits a ton off of these players, ESPN / ABC / CBS make a ton of money off of these players, and EA Sports makes a ton of money off of these players, yet if the players get paid a penny (or a tattoo), it's an NCAA violation. First I saw of this was once Keller was done at Nebraska and didn't make it into the NFL, and every now and then since I've seen mentions of the case. As far as I know, it's still alive, no ruling yet. I'm interested to see how it ends.

VDub26Falcon wrote: I estimate that less than 1% of D1 college athletes go on to get paid to play sports.

I have used this in a presentation I give at high schools. The info was found in the 2000-2001 NCAA Manual -

There are nearly one million high school football players and about 500,000 basketball players. Of that number, about 150 make it to the NFL and about 50 make an NBA team.

Less than three percent of college seniors will play one year in professional basketball.

The odds of a high school football player making it to the pros at all--let alone having a career--are about 6,000 to 1; the odds for a high school basketball player--10,000 to 1.


Click on http://tinyurl.com/4np94p2 to see an interesting chart about the probability of going pro in 6 sports.

I'm pretty sure OSU doesn't travel anywhere CLOSE to 50 or 60K to away games.

jg4242: you maybe right about the 50-60,000 OSU may not travel. They are in Columbus washing their hands. Make no mistake. OSU is one of the direst programs in the country and I'm a fan

Markl: Is that your high school picture. You really look old, man. Get another picture posted I'll pay for it Always a kind word Birdman

Birdman: I traveled to Boise State for our football game in 2008. It was one of the most memorable trips of my life, up there with when my dad and I backpacked the Grand Canyon, when my little bro and I traveled to Troy for the season opener for football this past fall, and when I spent some time touring Alaska with family. That was my fifth and final year of school at Bowling Green State University. I took five years because I changed majors partway through.

birdman wrote:Markl: Is that your high school picture. You really look old, man. Get another picture posted I'll pay for it Always a kind word Birdman

"It stops posting, it does this when its told"

"It stops posting or else it gets the hose again"

NCAA President Says He's Ready To Explore Paying Athletes

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Markl: That's great doing all those things and out of school. I would think it's about time you left us students alone and get a life

Look I understand that a scholly is a pretty sweet deal to most of us, but if you're hard work was responsible in part to bringing in millions to a school, don't you feel like you should get more than a 20k a year education. This may not hurt some small schools as much as many think. It only takes a wealthy booster to put a school on the map, and if the people at Harvard wanted to have an elite program they would have little problem in doing so. As far as them getting a summer job, there is so much red tape with those that it becomes a headache for the players and the program. (Rhett Bomar?)

The way FBS football should be set up is no more scholarships, kids have to pay their own way, but they are allowed to accept money from anyone willing to pay them. Could you imagine Omar peddling hair care products for a few bucks, or some of our more infamous players promoting the legal services of lawyers in the BG area.

It has been reported that a 4 year scholarship (academic/courses, meals, room and board, entertainment allowances, etc) to a non BCS school is roughly $110,000. My wife played college softball at Youngstown State back in the 90s. When all said and done her scholarship back then totaled 68,000 and she was on partial at 80 percent and that was for softball. She was given allowances each month for spending money, nothing extreme of course but a 70,000 worth of scholarship for softball. And like I said, they figure a non power school scholarship Is worth over $110,000 with a bigger school well over $150,000. That plus an education isn't enough????? These athletes have it to easy as it is now. Heck some athletes go to class less than 3 days a week with their travel and game schedules. NO WAY SHOULD THEY GET PAID TO PLAY!!!! If they get paid now where is the incentive for them to want to play at a higher level to make professionally after college.