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Attendance

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:41 pm
by bgsufalcon24
Does anybody know what the attendance figure was for today? I was actually not impressed at all with the fans that showed up and was expecting well over 20k. My guess is we ended up with roughly 15k instead. That's just not good for a PERFECT weather day in mid-September (when you're 2-0 to boot).

Any ideas on why the attendance wasn't better today? Really I remember crossing Wooster Street expecting a line of cars backing onto I-75 and saw nothing of the sort.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:56 pm
by WhoDeyBG
14,813.

Definitely was hoping for more myself, given all the conditions you stated, but it is what it is.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:33 pm
by jpfalcon09
Noon starts will chase away a lot of families who use Saturday morning for church or other family activities. It seems 3:30 or later starts are best for good crowds since people can get their errands done.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:39 pm
by camkru9701
It isn't worth worrying about attendance anymore. I was disappointed with the numbers too, but no matter what time we play, there will always be excuses for why we don't draw. Bottom line...win consistently and decisively at home and people will start showing up.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:56 am
by Drago
Great call scheduling the game early to hurt Wyoming. It cost BGSU about 2000 fans and any possible revenue they bring in. That's ok though, GC will just cut some money out of one his other sport's budget. 18 sports....1 team (football).
That fella needs to be booted to the street.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:35 am
by hammb
Nooon kickoff hurt attendance and was batshit retarded. It clearly didn't help us with any advantages over Wyoming either.

This athletic department (and the MAC as a whole) have made decision after decision for the wrong reasons. I've got news for them all:

We are not OSU. We are not the Big 10. We don't have a great fan following. Yeah, it sucks but if you want a big crowd you have to make it convenient for our fans to be there...they're not going to bend over backwards to be at our games...PERIOD.

It's fu**ing stupid to keep scheduling these games at times we KNOW will hurt attendance, and then go whine how "OSU gets 100k at noon...wah wah wah" The bottom line is that our fans are not dedicated. If we want to pack the stadium we have to recognize that and do everything we can to get people there, and scheduling at noon doesn't help. At OSU their fans schedule their entire day (hell weekend) around those games, it's an event. Most people can only get to one or two games a year. At BG we just don't have that...there are a handful of us that plan our weekends around the games, but most will only go when it's convenient to do so. And noon on a Saturday is rarely convenient for people.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:02 pm
by factman
yeah........what he said!

Re: Attendance

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:16 pm
by kdog27
I never bought that making the gametime 10am mountain time would do anything. That looks good on paper but when it comes down to it makes no difference. I am sure Wyoming practices before 10am all the time...

Having a losing record at home year after year has to be having a significant residual. Looking like crap and even crappier play calling in the 3rd quarter sent people to the exits early yesterday it looked like. How many of those people will be back?

Re: Attendance

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:56 pm
by DavyBG
There's about a million reasons for low attendance at games, but in the end it is nobody's fault at the university, it's just the fact we're BG. All teams on our scale face the dilemma. Can't have a noon game because students are still sleeping off hangovers. Can't have a late game because students don't go so they can go party and families with young kids don't want to be out till 11:00 or later. In this area if OSU, Michigan, Notre Dame or any of the top 10 college teams are playing at the same time as our game people will skip to go watch the big schools on TV. It's not the athletic directors fault, its not the university's fault, its the BCS's fault by making schools like us irrelevant in the whole scheme of college football.

When was the last couple times we had good attendance? Against Boise (because they sold their soul to the BCS and got really good at football) and Minnesota who is a Big 10 school and it was the week after we beat #25 Pittsburgh. Most of my friends who went to the Boise game wanted them to win, despite the fact they go to BG. Our football culture is terrible. We have a legacy but nothing to push that legacy into the future. We had a glimmer of hope after beating Pit that we may have a great team that year, only to get destroyed by Minnesota the next week.

At OSU, for many people, football is just something you go to. No matter if you ever cared about the sport before you got to OSU or not. It's not like that in BG and never will be. I love the football team, but we'd be better off scraping the program and committing all that money into hockey where we can still have an awful season but droves of people keep coming out every year, selling out a number of the games every season.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:31 am
by Falconfreak90
Agree about the noon kickoffs...can't stand them. 3:30 or later is the way to go. It would have been a beautiful night for football against WY had kickoff been 7.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:32 am
by transfer2BGSU
Coach Clawson likes the 12:00 Noon kick-off time.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:41 am
by Lord_Byron
Didn't know whether to post this here or under the "game-day experience" thread.

Isn't having a consistent start time for games important in creating a game-day party atmosphere? That is, sure 12:00 starts are not optimal for tailgating when comparing it to a 7:00 start.

But if games ALL started on Saturday at 12:00, then the tailgate experience would evolve to maximize the experience around that time. Cooking would be breakfast and mimosas before the game followed by dinner and later partying after. Just like a consistent 3:30 start would yield a different type of party.

Long-time tailgaters would adapt and their equipment and supplies would reflect that adaptation. As it is today, the tailgate needs to be reinvented for every game because the start times are all over the place.

For example, most NFL tailgaters are set up for a Sunday 1:00 start. All their planning revolves around that.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:05 pm
by mjmorefield
transfer2BGSU wrote:Coach Clawson likes the 12:00 Noon kick-off time.
I don't give a crap what time Coach Clawson likes to kick off. The University needs to do what's best for attendance, and noon kickoffs hurt.

Re: Attendance

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:41 pm
by hammb
mjmorefield wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:Coach Clawson likes the 12:00 Noon kick-off time.
I don't give a crap what time Coach Clawson likes to kick off. The University needs to do what's best for attendance, and noon kickoffs hurt.
+1

Re: Attendance

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:12 pm
by transfer2BGSU
mjmorefield wrote: I don't give a crap what time Coach Clawson likes to kick off. The University needs to do what's best for attendance, and noon kickoffs hurt.
Noon kick-offs are no different that a 1:00 PM kickoff, 2:30 PM kick-off, 3:30 PM kick-off, or a 7:00 PM kick-off.

Someone is always going to complain about the time of the kick-off. It interferes with the OSU game, it interferes with the Michigan game, it interferes with the Notre Dame game.

If the Coach likes the 12:00 PM kick-off, then so do I (well, not really but I guess I'm going to have to).