Really scared about footballs future
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Really scared about footballs future
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After the recent news broke that Ohio State will play a pair of games against TCU later this decade, the school has revealed a plan to avoid scheduling what are known around the sport as, "cupcake games," going forward. Typically, elite programs will schedule games annually against easy opponents that are nearly guaranteed victories.
But according to Buckeyes athletic director Gene Smith, Ohio State won't be following that practice any longer:
We will play two more BCS games [in 2018]... That year [2018] is a snapshot of future years. As we move forward, from 2018 and out, our goal is BCS only. We are looking at top ranked teams, 1-50 teams.
At the moment, the team also has the Cincinnati Bearcats on its 2018 non-conference schedule, so the Buckeyes certainly aren't shying away from their apparent plan. For a team that often takes on at least one opponent from a lesser conference like the MAC or Sun Belt every year, this is a clear move towards a more challenging schedule.
This will not bode well for growing our program.
After the recent news broke that Ohio State will play a pair of games against TCU later this decade, the school has revealed a plan to avoid scheduling what are known around the sport as, "cupcake games," going forward. Typically, elite programs will schedule games annually against easy opponents that are nearly guaranteed victories.
But according to Buckeyes athletic director Gene Smith, Ohio State won't be following that practice any longer:
We will play two more BCS games [in 2018]... That year [2018] is a snapshot of future years. As we move forward, from 2018 and out, our goal is BCS only. We are looking at top ranked teams, 1-50 teams.
At the moment, the team also has the Cincinnati Bearcats on its 2018 non-conference schedule, so the Buckeyes certainly aren't shying away from their apparent plan. For a team that often takes on at least one opponent from a lesser conference like the MAC or Sun Belt every year, this is a clear move towards a more challenging schedule.
This will not bode well for growing our program.
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Re: Really scared about footballs future
I'm too lazy to look but how many Big# Conference teams shouldn't be on their schedule this year? Those lower Big# Conference schools that currently visit MAC schools will still come calling hoping they catch the BG's of college football on down years to keep alums happy.
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Hope you are right. I just envision a situation where we become a Division 2 school. I think we just react and let everyone dictate our future to us. I don't know what our options were, but I refuse to believe we had none. After going to the gameday game in 2003 there is no way that this is where I thought we would be in 2012FalconTurf wrote:I'm too lazy to look but how many Big# Conference teams shouldn't be on their schedule this year? Those lower Big# Conference schools that currently visit MAC schools will still come calling hoping they catch the BG's of college football on down years to keep alums happy.
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When their national titles hopes are all but dashed before getting to conference play they will change their minds on this one. They play a schedule against 1-50 teams this year and I highly doubt they are still 5-0.Globetrotter wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... cu-georgia
After the recent news broke that Ohio State will play a pair of games against TCU later this decade, the school has revealed a plan to avoid scheduling what are known around the sport as, "cupcake games," going forward. Typically, elite programs will schedule games annually against easy opponents that are nearly guaranteed victories.
But according to Buckeyes athletic director Gene Smith, Ohio State won't be following that practice any longer:
We will play two more BCS games [in 2018]... That year [2018] is a snapshot of future years. As we move forward, from 2018 and out, our goal is BCS only. We are looking at top ranked teams, 1-50 teams.
At the moment, the team also has the Cincinnati Bearcats on its 2018 non-conference schedule, so the Buckeyes certainly aren't shying away from their apparent plan. For a team that often takes on at least one opponent from a lesser conference like the MAC or Sun Belt every year, this is a clear move towards a more challenging schedule.
This will not bode well for growing our program.
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I think my fear is we rely too much on the big schools for pay days and schedule too many IAA schools for 1 and done series. Time to agressively schedule top mid-majors and lower BCS for home-and-home series that we effectively market to the public. If we don't start doing this we may no longer have the resources to be capable of top 50 caliber. Opportunities exists without OSU but we must cash in at home or it could be trouble.
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There's a game against at least 1 BCS school up to 2021. I like the schedules up to then, some good home and away's with SunBelt and CUSA teams. 2 for 1's with a Big10 and ACC school and some guarantee games with FCS schools.
We'll see what happens, but, SunBelt, CUSA, and MWC schools are all in the same boat as us.
Big East schools are still going to play us, low level ACC and Big10 schools are still going to play us. I'm actually ok with it. 2 or 3 home and away's with conferences on the same level as us will make for exciting football.
My only worry is replacing the income we get from those buy games. But, hopefully a new TV deal (where the MAC should have some leverage with the willingness to play weeknight games and the POS conference that CUSA has become) can replace some of that.
We'll see what happens, but, SunBelt, CUSA, and MWC schools are all in the same boat as us.
Big East schools are still going to play us, low level ACC and Big10 schools are still going to play us. I'm actually ok with it. 2 or 3 home and away's with conferences on the same level as us will make for exciting football.
My only worry is replacing the income we get from those buy games. But, hopefully a new TV deal (where the MAC should have some leverage with the willingness to play weeknight games and the POS conference that CUSA has become) can replace some of that.
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That's great, because these future schedules never get changed.Falcon137 wrote:There's a game against at least 1 BCS school up to 2021.
I'm with Globe on this and I mentioned this very scenario when the new BCS system was first announced. There is no incentive for a BCS school to schedule easy games against non-BCS or FCS teams. Sure maybe the Indiana's, Duke's, Iowa State's of the world will continue to schedule a few. But what will they pay out compared to a Ohio State, Florida, Oklahoma, etc. Smaller schools absolutely need those 'payday games' to sustain their programs. They won't be getting those anymore.
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Re: Really scared about footballs future
I guess this all remains to be seen, obviously its pure speculation at this point of what's going to happen. I still believe there will be a place, maybe not as big as now, but a place where the "BCS" schools still schedule smaller D-1 schools to non-conference games. I can't imagine teams like OSU scheduling nothing but USC and Texas type caliber teams every game for their non-conference schedule...they're still going to want 1-2 easily winnable games to work on the kinks and iron out any struggles on the field.
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Sure they won't schedule USC & Texas for all their games, but they may be moving more towards filling in those easily winnable games with Cincinnati and other lower tier "BCS Conference" teams.jpfalcon09 wrote:I guess this all remains to be seen, obviously its pure speculation at this point of what's going to happen. I still believe there will be a place, maybe not as big as now, but a place where the "BCS" schools still schedule smaller D-1 schools to non-conference games. I can't imagine teams like OSU scheduling nothing but USC and Texas type caliber teams every game for their non-conference schedule...they're still going to want 1-2 easily winnable games to work on the kinks and iron out any struggles on the field.
That could mean less payday games for us.
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O$U basically refuses to play a NC game away from home. They aren't going to find that many teams to come there without a return trip. If they want to keep their 8 homes gave every year, it's going to be difficult to avoid the "cupcakes" permanently.
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So the absolute upper echelon of college football will schedule BCS only schools. Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin in the Big Ten.
The SEC laughs at the Big10 needing resume games..
In the ACC you have Florida State, Clemson, Va Tech who could do this.
Big12 you have Texas, OU, WVU, TCU.
PAC12 is Oregon and USC.
Almost every other BCS school needs the buy games. They need the revenue, they need the wins. Sure, Oklahoma State could go with Louisville, Stanford, Boise, and Houston non conference. But, those schools also run the risk of staring down a whole bunch of 3-9, 4-8 type seasons if they're not careful, especially when trying to stare into a crystal ball and schedule 6-10 years down the road.
Maybe BG doesn't get the million dollar payout from Ohio State and Florida. Instead maybe they sign a 2 for 1 with Wake and end up getting $400,000 out of the deal and do the same type of deal with Iowa State. Maybe they do that plus a buy game at a school like Northwestern for $500,000.
The SEC laughs at the Big10 needing resume games..
In the ACC you have Florida State, Clemson, Va Tech who could do this.
Big12 you have Texas, OU, WVU, TCU.
PAC12 is Oregon and USC.
Almost every other BCS school needs the buy games. They need the revenue, they need the wins. Sure, Oklahoma State could go with Louisville, Stanford, Boise, and Houston non conference. But, those schools also run the risk of staring down a whole bunch of 3-9, 4-8 type seasons if they're not careful, especially when trying to stare into a crystal ball and schedule 6-10 years down the road.
Maybe BG doesn't get the million dollar payout from Ohio State and Florida. Instead maybe they sign a 2 for 1 with Wake and end up getting $400,000 out of the deal and do the same type of deal with Iowa State. Maybe they do that plus a buy game at a school like Northwestern for $500,000.
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I hope you are right. I envision a 4 conference Upper Division of the ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Pac 10 with the Big 12 falling into the other 4. The best thing that happened to us was the Big 12 staying together but I think that's just a finger in the damn.Falcon137 wrote:So the absolute upper echelon of college football will schedule BCS only schools. Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin in the Big Ten.
The SEC laughs at the Big10 needing resume games..
In the ACC you have Florida State, Clemson, Va Tech who could do this.
Big12 you have Texas, OU, WVU, TCU.
PAC12 is Oregon and USC.
Almost every other BCS school needs the buy games. They need the revenue, they need the wins. Sure, Oklahoma State could go with Louisville, Stanford, Boise, and Houston non conference. But, those schools also run the risk of staring down a whole bunch of 3-9, 4-8 type seasons if they're not careful, especially when trying to stare into a crystal ball and schedule 6-10 years down the road.
Maybe BG doesn't get the million dollar payout from Ohio State and Florida. Instead maybe they sign a 2 for 1 with Wake and end up getting $400,000 out of the deal and do the same type of deal with Iowa State. Maybe they do that plus a buy game at a school like Northwestern for $500,000.
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I agree with this.Redwingtom wrote:O$U basically refuses to play a NC game away from home. They aren't going to find that many teams to come there without a return trip. If they want to keep their 8 homes gave every year, it's going to be difficult to avoid the "cupcakes" permanently.
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Re: Really scared about footballs future
Michigan had previously announced it would not play NC games on the road, except Notre Dame, and now that is going away.
There is no doubt that football is stratifying. There is going to be an upper tier of FBS and a lower tier. This is the "super conference" idea that has been going around for a long time. As to whether we "react," there isn't much we can do about it. We just do not have the money to compete on that level and it is not realistic to think we ever would, no matter what we did.
There is no doubt that football is stratifying. There is going to be an upper tier of FBS and a lower tier. This is the "super conference" idea that has been going around for a long time. As to whether we "react," there isn't much we can do about it. We just do not have the money to compete on that level and it is not realistic to think we ever would, no matter what we did.
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I have been slowly losing interest in college football. I used to be able to watch any game. Now it's down to bg Osu and the big games. To be honest after the first quarter last week I turned bg off. I may be alone on this orand it could just be me getting older and shrinking my interests but college football is not nearly as fun as it once was.
