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Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:29 am
by slashba33
Last night was so satisfying to see us beat down a team like Tulsa and do it in by punching them in the mouth!! Also, I would lie if I said I wasn't smiling that Clawson pulled Schilz and played Johnson and it was successful!!
After the game, we ran into Jamel Martin (#37 RB) and I asked him if he was hurt or something as to why he didn't get on the field. He shook his head and smiled and said "I don't know man...I don't know." Also, I noticed Givens and Hopgood did not get on the field either!! The move pulling Schilz was justified, but not playing the most experienced RBs in the home opener for 1 snap left me a little concerned. Does anyone have any insight or knowledge to why these guys didn't see any action last night? My concern is for the long-term mindset of the team and keeping everyone together with winning in mind. A couple of pissed off upper classmen start getting into ears of others and then you have lost the team.
With a start like this, I don't want anything to get in our way!!
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:40 am
by thewebboy
slashba33 wrote:Last night was so satisfying to see us beat down a team like Tulsa and do it in by punching them in the mouth!! Also, I would lie if I said I wasn't smiling that Clawson pulled Schilz and played Johnson and it was successful!!
After the game, we ran into Jamel Martin (#37 RB) and I asked him if he was hurt or something as to why he didn't get on the field. He shook his head and smiled and said "I don't know man...I don't know." Also, I noticed Givens and Hopgood did not get on the field either!! The move pulling Schilz was justified, but not playing the most experienced RBs in the home opener for 1 snap left me a little concerned. Does anyone have any insight or knowledge to why these guys didn't see any action last night? My concern is for the long-term mindset of the team and keeping everyone together with winning in mind. A couple of pissed off upper classmen start getting into ears of others and then you have lost the team.
With a start like this, I don't want anything to get in our way!!
I think that is the problem with having 5-6 talented RBs. You just can't give everyone the reps they probably deserve. I just hope they aren't too discouraged. I can't think of a season where we didn't have 2-3 injuries at RB. It is going to happen.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:41 am
by hammb
Hopgood must be hurt. He wasn't even in pads on the sideline. Didn't see givens.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:51 am
by Flipper
I thought Hopgood blew up a guy on a punt return? Agree with the webboy...how many RB's got carries last year? It's tough to argue with the results we saw last night out of Greene, Houston and Coppet.
So far as the QB situation goes...if Johnson doesn't show more passing downfield, he'll be less effective as the season wears on. It's tough to move the ball consistently if you're only forcing the defense to cover the first 10-15 yards off the ball
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:58 am
by kdog27
I think something being lost here is that Tulsa is still a damn good team. Most teams we see in the MAC won't be that good and Johnson will improve. We just beat a perennial 10 win team that was nearly unanimously picked to win Conference USA and might still do so.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:04 am
by Rollo83
kdog27 wrote:I think something being lost here is that Tulsa is still a damn good team. Most teams we see in the MAC won't be that good and Johnson will improve. We just beat a perennial 10 win team that was nearly unanimously picked to win Conference USA and might still do so.
Sorry, but Tulsa is NOT a "damn good" football team. They are not even a "good" football team. We'll see several MAC teams this season that will give us more trouble than they did last night. Pre-season rankings mean nothing, and most are based on prior year accomplishments. They only had one 2012 returning starter on defense from last night.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:12 am
by mscarn
We have far, far more answers than questions.
Now is the time to root for Tulsa to help our strength of schedule. Their defense will improve and their offense will not see anything remotely resembling our defense in C-USA.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:14 am
by Flipper
Maybe not damn good...maybe darn good...probably not durn good....
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:23 am
by kdog27
Rollo83 wrote:kdog27 wrote:I think something being lost here is that Tulsa is still a damn good team. Most teams we see in the MAC won't be that good and Johnson will improve. We just beat a perennial 10 win team that was nearly unanimously picked to win Conference USA and might still do so.
Sorry, but Tulsa is NOT a "damn good" football team. They are not even a "good" football team. We'll see several MAC teams this season that will give us more trouble than they did last night. Pre-season rankings mean nothing, and most are based on prior year accomplishments. They only had one 2012 returning starter on defense from last night.
Best team we have beaten in several years IMO. We made them look bad offensively with what 8 returning starters on offense. This team pretty much mopped the floor with us every time we played. They didn't fall off the face of the earth in one game. They will win plenty of games.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:44 am
by edjwolfe
hopgood played on special teams and was in the backfield once or twice on the first drive. he just did not get any carries.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:49 am
by Rollo83
kdog27 wrote:Rollo83 wrote:kdog27 wrote:I think something being lost here is that Tulsa is still a damn good team. Most teams we see in the MAC won't be that good and Johnson will improve. We just beat a perennial 10 win team that was nearly unanimously picked to win Conference USA and might still do so.
Sorry, but Tulsa is NOT a "damn good" football team. They are not even a "good" football team. We'll see several MAC teams this season that will give us more trouble than they did last night. Pre-season rankings mean nothing, and most are based on prior year accomplishments. They only had one 2012 returning starter on defense from last night.
Best team we have beaten in several years IMO. We made them look bad offensively with what 8 returning starters on offense. This team pretty much mopped the floor with us every time we played. They didn't fall off the face of the earth in one game. They will win plenty of games.
Biggest name we've beaten in several years...not best team IMO.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:58 am
by kdog27
Outside of Ohio U last year, what good teams have we beat in the Clawson era? I can't think of any. Can't say for sure as it is fuzzy but it seems like his 09 team got to 7 wins by beating bad teams.
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:16 pm
by Flipper
Other than Toledo in 2001...Urbie didn't beat anyone good either. Gregg Brandon had a history of big wins against good teams. Unfortunately, he also had home losses to teams like Miami and EMU....
Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:21 pm
by Rollo83
Flipper wrote:Other than Toledo in 2001...Urbie didn't beat anyone good either. Gregg Brandon had a history of big wins against good teams. Unfortunately, he also had home losses to teams like Miami and EMU....
Of course Brandon did it with Urbie's recruits!

Re: Great WIN...but still have questions
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:47 pm
by BGSUFanatic7
Urban beat Kansas and Missouri. I'd say those are pretty huge.