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Another team will run the Baylor offense
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:23 pm
by mscarn
Longtime Baylor OC Philip Montgomery was named the head coach at Tulsa.
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/tag/_/nam ... montgomery" target="_blank
The article says that Babers is the only offensive assistant to have left the original Baylor offensive staff before now and how "the system works to near-perfection." That's a fairly broad definition of near.
How might this affect our offensive staff? Coach has always said it's an extraordinarily unique system with only a handful of people around the country that understand it and who are qualified to run it. Our OC, Sterlin Gilbert, was plucked from a high school in Texas based on the recommendation of Montgomery to Babers. In the interests of continuity I hope he stays, but if he doesn't could Babers bring in someone from outside the Baylor circle to adapt things a little more and/or provide another perspective? If it's another Baylor person, who else is out there that would be qualified and not need a multi-year learning curve to get up to speed? Kendal Briles was mentioned before, but he seems pretty tethered to his father and that staff unless we can increase his salary substantially.
Re: Another team will run the Baylor offense
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:25 pm
by kdog27
As far as I know the only team running the Baylor offense is Baylor.
Re: Another team will run the Baylor offense
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:05 pm
by jpfalcon09
I know what we ran this year was nothing close to a Baylor offense.
Re: Another team will run the Baylor offense
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:27 am
by mscarn
Montgomery said during his opening press conference that "we're going to run right down the middle at you and see if you can stop it."
https://twitter.com/American_FB/status/ ... 6130735104" target="_blank
Yup, we've seen that. There was also the stuff about not having a playbook and attacking down the field (aka deep passes straight down the sidelines that are almost never completed). They seem to be willing to telegraph their plays and hope that the tempo is enough to keep people off-balanced enough to make it work. Predictability with an emphasis on tempo seems inferior to unpredictability with an emphasis on execution, and the precision with which Western Kentucky ran their offense against us is the best example of that even though they incorporated some no-huddle elements themselves.
There are people who insist that this brand of offense is the wave of the future and something BG must use. I'd say a coach and staff that can teach players to execute their system effectively is far, far more important than whatever the system happens to be.
Re: Another team will run the Baylor offense
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:34 am
by jpfalcon09
mscarn wrote:Montgomery said during his opening press conference that "we're going to run right down the middle at you and see if you can stop it."
https://twitter.com/American_FB/status/ ... 6130735104" target="_blank
Yup, we've seen that. There was also the stuff about not having a playbook and attacking down the field (aka deep passes straight down the sidelines that are almost never completed). They seem to be willing to telegraph their plays and hope that the tempo is enough to keep people off-balanced enough to make it work. Predictability with an emphasis on tempo seems inferior to unpredictability with an emphasis on execution, and the precision with which Western Kentucky ran their offense against us is the best example of that even though they incorporated some no-huddle elements themselves.
There are people who insist that this brand of offense is the wave of the future and something BG must use. I'd say a coach and staff that can teach players to execute their system effectively is far, far more important than whatever the system happens to be.
Going tempo for the sake of going tempo is pretty much what these coaches are selling, which is stupid. Lots of teams run tempo now, maybe not all the time, but it's certainly prevalent in college football. If you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.
Re: Another team will run the Baylor offense
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:48 am
by hammb
jpfalcon09 wrote:mscarn wrote:Montgomery said during his opening press conference that "we're going to run right down the middle at you and see if you can stop it."
https://twitter.com/American_FB/status/ ... 6130735104" target="_blank
Yup, we've seen that. There was also the stuff about not having a playbook and attacking down the field (aka deep passes straight down the sidelines that are almost never completed). They seem to be willing to telegraph their plays and hope that the tempo is enough to keep people off-balanced enough to make it work. Predictability with an emphasis on tempo seems inferior to unpredictability with an emphasis on execution, and the precision with which Western Kentucky ran their offense against us is the best example of that even though they incorporated some no-huddle elements themselves.
There are people who insist that this brand of offense is the wave of the future and something BG must use. I'd say a coach and staff that can teach players to execute their system effectively is far, far more important than whatever the system happens to be.
Going tempo for the sake of going tempo is pretty much what these coaches are selling, which is stupid. Lots of teams run tempo now, maybe not all the time, but it's certainly prevalent in college football. If you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.
Tempo is a mssive advantage for an offense. If it combines with your team being better conditioned to high play counts than your opponent the advantage is increased.
What doesn't change; however, is that you cannot go tempo if your offense sucks as ours did the second half of the year. What was a massive advantage for a good offense becomes a sever disadvantage for a team struggling to get those first downs.
I love the tempo and love seeing it as a core philosophy but if they can't figure out how to get the offense moving to use the tempo to their advantage we're in trouble.
Re: Another team will run the Baylor offense
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:28 am
by Flipper
Yep...in theory running a faster pace creates confusion within the defense....the way we've been running it, we look confused while the defense frequently blitzes and kills our QB. Hopefully...with Johnson, Nicholas or a more experienced Knapke (is he ok physically?) and Callaway, we'll have a QB taht can run the entire offense.