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Do we also play for the I-75 trophy? Just wondering...

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They can keep that paper weight, I want the championship trophy!
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Maybe we can have the peace pipe back
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Tangentially, does anybody besides me think the I-75 trophy is silly? It looks like a generic trophy with no real history. A trophy just because.

For a new trophy with real history behind it,check out the Minnesota / Nebraska trophy .... http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... air-trophy
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MarkL wrote:Tangentially, does anybody besides me think the I-75 trophy is silly? It looks like a generic trophy with no real history. A trophy just because.

For a new trophy with real history behind it,check out the Minnesota / Nebraska trophy .... http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... air-trophy
Not only does the trophy look look silly, the name of this rivalry is pathetic. Battle of I-75??? It epitomizes a complete lack of effort to come up with something creative by those responsible. A horrible, unoriginal and simply boring name. How people came up with and agreed on that name is beyond me. Did they meet at McDonald's for lunch and hatch the idea over value meals? It screams no one cared enough to put any bit of thought into it.
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I always thought there was a better way to talk about this rivalry than the "Battle of I-75," but I'm not sure what it would be.

Call it the "Two Stickney Trophy," maybe?

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I don't like that trophy. At all.

I'm very involved in BG track & field (among other things, I'm the announcer for all home meets) and I've been trying to come up with some kind of trophy for the annual dual meet. The classic ones all have some kind of history or meaning and it's hard to create history out of thin air. I'm thinking of finding something railroad-oriented (since Toledo & BG were once connected by rail) or just fishing a big rock out of the middle of the Maumee River and getting it mounted on a base.

We always had a dual cross country meet with Miami--they were the bigger rival at the time--and we didn't need any trophy. Run badly against Miami and out coach, Sid Sink, wouldn't even look at you for a week or two.
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If it is in fact a BG/UT MAC championship, I say take an artifact from the game and make it the new trophy. Maybe we can play for the championship game football, or for a chunk of the Ford Field goalpost, or the helmets of the QBs, or something to that effect.
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BGSU33 wrote:
MarkL wrote:Tangentially, does anybody besides me think the I-75 trophy is silly? It looks like a generic trophy with no real history. A trophy just because.

For a new trophy with real history behind it,check out the Minnesota / Nebraska trophy .... http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... air-trophy
Not only does the trophy look look silly, the name of this rivalry is pathetic. Battle of I-75??? It epitomizes a complete lack of effort to come up with something creative by those responsible. A horrible, unoriginal and simply boring name. How people came up with and agreed on that name is beyond me. Did they meet at McDonald's for lunch and hatch the idea over value meals? It screams no one cared enough to put any bit of thought into it.
Sounds like Toledo people came up with it then :-D
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BGFalconfromCincy wrote:
BGSU33 wrote:
MarkL wrote:Tangentially, does anybody besides me think the I-75 trophy is silly? It looks like a generic trophy with no real history. A trophy just because.

For a new trophy with real history behind it,check out the Minnesota / Nebraska trophy .... http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... air-trophy
Not only does the trophy look look silly, the name of this rivalry is pathetic. Battle of I-75??? It epitomizes a complete lack of effort to come up with something creative by those responsible. A horrible, unoriginal and simply boring name. How people came up with and agreed on that name is beyond me. Did they meet at McDonald's for lunch and hatch the idea over value meals? It screams no one cared enough to put any bit of thought into it.
Sounds like Toledo people came up with it then :-D
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The I-75 has got to be the lamest such trophy out there and is down right embarrassing .

Doing away with the Peace Pipe trophy in the name of political correctness was absurd and if it was such an offensive symbol, then there should have been a ceremony where it was burned to ashes, so as to have it's scourge removed from the Earth forever.

Unless it would be offensive to frogs, snakes, mosquitos or swamp monsters, I always thought they should have called it the Battle of the Great Black Swamp, or the Black Swamp Trophy, or something as such.
The following is quoted from Wikipedia:

"The impassibility of the swamp was an obstacle during the so-called Toledo War (1835–36); unable to get through the swamp, the Michigan and Ohio militias never came to battle."

Had the Black Swamp not existed, Ohio and Michigan may have come to blows in the battle over Toledo and if that had happened, Ohio may well have won the battle, which would have led to Michigan having been forced to take Toledo within it's borders.

Given the geographical and historical significance of the Great Black Swamp, it's a no-brainer that we re-name this game and trophy.
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Beaker wrote:The I-75 has got to be the lamest such trophy out there and is down right embarrassing .

Doing away with the Peace Pipe trophy in the name of political correctness was absurd and if it was such an offensive symbol, then there should have been a ceremony where it was burned to ashes, so as to have it's scourge removed from the Earth forever.

Unless it would be offensive to frogs, snakes, mosquitos or swamp monsters, I always thought they should have called it the Battle of the Great Black Swamp, or the Black Swamp Trophy, or something as such.
The following is quoted from Wikipedia:

"The impassibility of the swamp was an obstacle during the so-called Toledo War (1835–36); unable to get through the swamp, the Michigan and Ohio militias never came to battle."

Had the Black Swamp not existed, Ohio and Michigan may have come to blows in the battle over Toledo and if that had happened, Ohio may well have won the battle, which would have led to Michigan having been forced to take Toledo within it's borders.

Given the geographical and historical significance of the Great Black Swamp, it's a no-brainer that we re-name this game and trophy.
I like this idea. Something with some meaning.

An orange barrel or construction sign would offer more then the current trophy.
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And the Army ROTC needs to go back to being known as The Black Swamp Battalion :D
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MajorFalcon92 wrote:
Beaker wrote:The I-75 has got to be the lamest such trophy out there and is down right embarrassing .

Doing away with the Peace Pipe trophy in the name of political correctness was absurd and if it was such an offensive symbol, then there should have been a ceremony where it was burned to ashes, so as to have it's scourge removed from the Earth forever.

Unless it would be offensive to frogs, snakes, mosquitos or swamp monsters, I always thought they should have called it the Battle of the Great Black Swamp, or the Black Swamp Trophy, or something as such.
The following is quoted from Wikipedia:

"The impassibility of the swamp was an obstacle during the so-called Toledo War (1835–36); unable to get through the swamp, the Michigan and Ohio militias never came to battle."

Had the Black Swamp not existed, Ohio and Michigan may have come to blows in the battle over Toledo and if that had happened, Ohio may well have won the battle, which would have led to Michigan having been forced to take Toledo within it's borders.

Given the geographical and historical significance of the Great Black Swamp, it's a no-brainer that we re-name this game and trophy.
I like this idea. Something with some meaning.

An orange barrel or construction sign would offer more then the current trophy.

I also hate the I-75 trophy trophy. The Peace Pipe had some meaning at least although I never thought that was all that great. Its redeeming value was the connection to the war. The I-75 idea implies we are the only two universities on I-75. I like the idea of a "Black Swamp" trophy but how do we represent that in a trophy other than in words?
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Beaker, you nailed it. Funny...the name "Battle for The Black Swamp" popped into my head before I scrolled down and read your post.

I think the I-75 crap started from our lazy TV media members who wanted something to plaster on screen when talking about the game each year.

I think we should all start e-mailing and tweeting the BG higher-ups about changing the name. I'll put out a feeler on the Toledo board.
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