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Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:51 am
by jpfalcon09
Congrats on a great season!
The Sammy Baugh Award is given to the nation's top passer (yardage) during the regular season. Brian McClure won the award in 1985.
Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:25 pm
by Redwingtom
And in one of the funniest of developments, Toledo's coach wins COTY. And Toledo now owes him a bonus of $20,000.
You just can't make this stuff up!

Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:32 pm
by Warthog
Redwingtom wrote:And in one of the funniest of developments, Toledo's coach wins COTY. And Toledo now owes him a bonus of $20,000.
You just can't make this stuff up!

That is funny. But in realty, how does Campbell lose two of the three most important conference games of the season and still get COY?
I saw where the Sentinel Tribune's Thomas Schmeltz's says he voted for Campbell because of his wins over Arkansas and Iowa State. Those are non-coference games, so why give him so much credit for that? But if you are giving credit for OOC wins, Babers beat two Power 5 conference schools on the road AND won his division in the MAC. How can you legitimately choose Campbell over Babers?
Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:10 pm
by Schadenfreude
Warthog wrote:How can you legitimately choose Campbell over Babers?
You could look at the head-to-head matchup, I guess.
Perhaps the voting took place before Toledo's choke job against Western Michigan.
Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:14 pm
by jpfalcon09
Schadenfreude wrote:Warthog wrote:How can you legitimately choose Campbell over Babers?
You could look at the head-to-head matchup, I guess.
Perhaps the voting took place before Toledo's choke job against Western Michigan.
I think people bought into them being ranked most of the season and used that as a basis to give him the award. Does it really matter anyways?
Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:31 pm
by Warthog
jpfalcon09 wrote:Does it really matter anyways?
It was worth $20k to Campbell. Probably a similar number for Dino to, if he'd have got it.
Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:32 pm
by Falconfreak90
jpfalcon09 wrote:Congrats on a great season!
The Sammy Baugh Award is given to the nation's top passer (yardage) during the regular season. Brian McClure won the award in 1985.
Simply awesome...

Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:30 pm
by Redwingtom
Someone posted on the Toledo board that in fact the votes for COTY were do in before the WMU game. Explains a lot. Coupled with NIU blowing it against OU.
Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:37 pm
by Falconwriter
Why the hurry to do these awards (for the league) before the championship game? It seems silly to me. It's all media driven; it's not like there's an actual deadline they have to meet (that wasn't created by them in the first place). Just ridiculous.
On topic: This was probably the most no-brainer award given out. The year Johnson had was one of those that people will talk about even decades in the future (just like people still recall McClure's year). That said, I'd prefer to do all these after the season is actually finished. If BG wins the MAC title tomorrow night, who in their right mind wouldn't vote for Babers for COTY? Same goes for the coach at NIU.
It kind of puts me in mind of how ridiculously stupid some of the Big Ten awards are. Iowa's coach has won Coach of the Year something like 5 times in his career...and during that time, not one Ohio State Coach has won the award. Not even Urban Meyer or Jim Tressel after winning national titles. How dumb is that?
Re: Matty J MAC Offensive POY and Sammy Baugh winner
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:31 pm
by footballguy51
Falconwriter wrote:Why the hurry to do these awards (for the league) before the championship game? It seems silly to me. It's all media driven; it's not like there's an actual deadline they have to meet (that wasn't created by them in the first place). Just ridiculous.
On topic: This was probably the most no-brainer award given out. The year Johnson had was one of those that people will talk about even decades in the future (just like people still recall McClure's year). That said, I'd prefer to do all these after the season is actually finished. If BG wins the MAC title tomorrow night, who in their right mind wouldn't vote for Babers for COTY? Same goes for the coach at NIU.
It kind of puts me in mind of how ridiculously stupid some of the Big Ten awards are. Iowa's coach has won Coach of the Year something like 5 times in his career...and during that time, not one Ohio State Coach has won the award. Not even Urban Meyer or Jim Tressel after winning national titles. How dumb is that?
In general, conference awards are regular season awards. Conference title games, playoffs, and bowl games are not to be considered. The same can be said for many awards for professional sports.