Nothing will change with the new coach

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Nothing will change with the new coach

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Nothing will change under the new coach. He comes from Texas tech where defense is like the Loch Ness monster , it doesn't exists. The culture of the system is to play fast score often and hipe that you can outlast the other team. You score 50 and hope they only score 49..

With the right skill players you can win 8-9 games in a horrible Mac conference so maybe we can live with it. Not saying it's a terrible thing just saying we know what we are getting.
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GSU would drill every single team in the MAC. Too much speed on defense, too much talent at the skill positions and a physical nasty OL.

This staff couldn't keep the team focused when bad things happened.... so more bad things happened in quick succession. Fix that and we'll be good.
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Teams in the Sun Belt get to see there offense every year, and are able to game plan for it. We were working with a staff who has one foot out the door trying to prepare our guys for something they haven't seen in a very long time. Numerous times I saw to players converge on the ball, when one needed to play the pitch. It sucks that we lost, but still we are conference champs. Looking forward to next year.
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Part of the problem with the Baylor and Texas tech and Washington state systems and culture is that they really just do not care about defense . It's not a focus its not given the attention during practice or recruiting as everything is focused around the offense. Giving up 50+ to an average sunbelt team who's been playing football in the fbs for 2 years has nothing to do with focus . It's a culture of score score score offense
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Flipper wrote:GSU would drill every single team in the MAC. Too much speed on defense, too much talent at the skill positions and a physical nasty OL.

This staff couldn't keep the team focused when bad things happened.... so more bad things happened in quick succession. Fix that and we'll be good.

A bit dramatic.. This team lost to Georgia State by a big margin. One game does not indicate this....
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sportydude1818 wrote:Part of the problem with the Baylor and Texas tech and Washington state systems and culture is that they really just do not care about defense . It's not a focus its not given the attention during practice or recruiting as everything is focused around the offense. Giving up 50+ to an average sunbelt team who's been playing football in the fbs for 2 years has nothing to do with focus . It's a culture of score score score offense
While I agree with you, for the most part, that the culture at BG (at least since Clawson left) has been focused much more on offense than defense -- and I don't see that changing, either -- there most certainly was a lack of focus last night. And apparently all during the bowl practices. It's not THAT hard to defense an option offense, but it does require players to be disciplined and "stay home" in the sense that they play their area. Our defense was all over the place when GSU was on offense. It's like they really didn't know what they were doing. I'm guessing their heads weren't in this game from almost the moment it was announced.
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gspointer wrote:
Flipper wrote:GSU would drill every single team in the MAC. Too much speed on defense, too much talent at the skill positions and a physical nasty OL.

This staff couldn't keep the team focused when bad things happened.... so more bad things happened in quick succession. Fix that and we'll be good.

A bit dramatic.. This team lost to Georgia State by a big margin. One game does not indicate this....

Agreed....GSU was an avg squad. BG was just not prepared to play. A well coached BG team wins that game. If the MAC is going to try and play big boy football, then bowl games need to be won. BG just no showed on national tv. That's on the staff and players....I don't care if Babers left or not....have some pride. That second half was unacceptable....it was and still is embarrassing.
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[quote win.="da. Sim0lw.sollak"]Teams in the Sun Belt get to see there offense every year, and are able to game plan for it. We were working with a staff who has one foot out the door trying to prepare our guys for something they haven't seen in a very long time. Numerous times I saw to players converge on the ball, when one needed to play the pitch. It sucks that we lost, but still we are conference champs. Looking forward to next year.[/quote]

We've only been in the Sunbelt since last year, so I don't think them Sunbelt teams had too much of an advantage now. I just don't understand why everyone says all they have to do is play "assignment " football to beat us. Like in all the others the D is just running around in chaos. In 30 years in the FCS, not many teams could stop the Eagles consistently. Not saying Southern is world-beaters by any means, but they will compete in most games. We run basically 3 plays, the opponent knows what's coming. If they can stop us, they win. Simple.
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BluebyU wrote:[quote win.="da. Sim0lw.sollak"]Teams in the Sun Belt get to see there offense every year, and are able to game plan for it. We were working with a staff who has one foot out the door trying to prepare our guys for something they haven't seen in a very long time. Numerous times I saw to players converge on the ball, when one needed to play the pitch. It sucks that we lost, but still we are conference champs. Looking forward to next year.
We've only been in the Sunbelt since last year, so I don't think them Sunbelt teams had too much of an advantage now. I just don't understand why everyone says all they have to do is play "assignment " football to beat us. Like in all the others the D is just running around in chaos. In 30 years in the FCS, not many teams could stop the Eagles consistently. Not saying Southern is world-beaters by any means, but they will compete in most games. We run basically 3 plays, the opponent knows what's coming. If they can stop us, they win. Simple.[/quote]
To me the turning point in the game was when your QB scrambled all over the place and completed that 4th and long pass for TD. Defense never looked the same after that.

I never liked this matchup. I knew GSU was a solid team but there was little interest from the players, coaches, down to our fanbase. We played in Bama last year and have been to Mobile before. No slight to GSU because BG is no big name either but most of wanted to play a team like Temple or Boise after winning the conference. You guys were obviously psyched for the game as you carried your coach off the field. I saw BG players tweets when this game was announced, they were not excited in the least.

Excuses aside, congratulations. GSU kicked ass in the second half.
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BluebyU wrote:[quote win.="da. Sim0lw.sollak"]Teams in the Sun Belt get to see there offense every year, and are able to game plan for it. We were working with a staff who has one foot out the door trying to prepare our guys for something they haven't seen in a very long time. Numerous times I saw to players converge on the ball, when one needed to play the pitch. It sucks that we lost, but still we are conference champs. Looking forward to next year.
We've only been in the Sunbelt since last year, so I don't think them Sunbelt teams had too much of an advantage now. I just don't understand why everyone says all they have to do is play "assignment " football to beat us. Like in all the others the D is just running around in chaos. In 30 years in the FCS, not many teams could stop the Eagles consistently. Not saying Southern is world-beaters by any means, but they will compete in most games. We run basically 3 plays, the opponent knows what's coming. If they can stop us, they win. Simple.[/quote]

With all due respect, winning in FCS is not the same thing as consistently winning as a mid major. I'm assuming GSU will expand its schedule to include more Power 5 conference teams in the future (I see where they're playing at Wisconsin next year). And I've watched college football for more than 50 years and YES, "all" it takes to beat option teams is players who understand and carry out their assignments. Back in the 1970s, the triple option was "the thing" among schools and it seemed like the really good schools that ran it (Texas, Nebraska) couldn't be stopped. Well, defensive coordinators caught up with them pretty quickly and came up with schemes that shut down the option pretty effectively. That's why not too many schools bother to run it, anymore.

Now, it's spread teams out and run zone read with the QB, and "pass to run" type offenses. It takes advantage of one on one match ups and plenty of space. Also difficult to defend, but not impossible since so many teams are playing it these days. The one difference between it and the basic option like GSU runs is that the more successful and effective teams can also pass the ball.

I'm not making excuses for BG, because they played poorly; just stating a fact. I've seen them play much better football games when they were focused and the intensity was there. I saw none of that last night. They deserved every bit of the butt whipping they got.
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gspointer wrote:
Flipper wrote:GSU would drill every single team in the MAC. Too much speed on defense, too much talent at the skill positions and a physical nasty OL.

This staff couldn't keep the team focused when bad things happened.... so more bad things happened in quick succession. Fix that and we'll be good.

A bit dramatic.. This team lost to Georgia State by a big margin. One game does not indicate this....
They played two of the top four teams in the MAC...including the champs...and made them wear lipstick and frilly dresses. If anything I understated it.
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gspointer wrote:
Flipper wrote:GSU would drill every single team in the MAC. Too much speed on defense, too much talent at the skill positions and a physical nasty OL.

This staff couldn't keep the team focused when bad things happened.... so more bad things happened in quick succession. Fix that and we'll be good.

A bit dramatic.. This team lost to Georgia State by a big margin. One game does not indicate this....
They played two of the top four teams in the MAC...including the champs...and made them wear lipstick and frilly dresses. If anything I understated it.
Those were "stars are aligned" games. I disagree. They would not have won have even won the conference
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Noting will change with the new coach?

This is great news! Back to back MACC game appearances while winning me of them?!? Hell yes, sign me up!
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gspointer wrote:
Flipper wrote:
gspointer wrote:
Flipper wrote:GSU would drill every single team in the MAC. Too much speed on defense, too much talent at the skill positions and a physical nasty OL.

This staff couldn't keep the team focused when bad things happened.... so more bad things happened in quick succession. Fix that and we'll be good.

A bit dramatic.. This team lost to Georgia State by a big margin. One game does not indicate this....
They played two of the top four teams in the MAC...including the champs...and made them wear lipstick and frilly dresses. If anything I understated it.
Those were "stars are aligned" games. I disagree. They would not have won have even won the conference
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Dayons_Den wrote:Noting will change with the new coach?

This is great news! Back to back MACC game appearances while winning me of them?!? Hell yes, sign me up!
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