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16 team playoff

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:07 pm
by Globetrotter
Feel free to move it but I thought it would get the best conversation here. All 10 conferences get automatic, 6 at larges based on rankings.

The fairness and funness of this makes me not understand why they don't do it. I get that there isn't any reason for the rich to share, I just can't imagine not watching most if not all of these games.

1 Clemson 12-1 (1) 16 Troy 10-2
8 USC 11-2 (8) 9 Penn St 10-2 (9)

4 Alabama 11-1 (4) 13 Boise St 10-3 (25)
5 OSU 11-2 (5) 12 Washington 10-2 (12)

3 Georgia 12-1 (3) 14 Toledo 11-2
6 Wisconsin 12-1 (6) 11 Miami 10-2 (11)

2 Oklahoma 12-1 (2) 15 Florida Atlantic 10-3
7 Auburn 10-3 (7) 10 UCF 12-0 (10)

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:12 pm
by mbenecke
Why yes, I would love to watch Georgia beat up on Toledo!

In all seriousness, this would be an extremely interesting concept. Clemson would smack Troy, USC and Penn State would be a phenomenal game, Bama and Boise State would be intriguing, Ohio State would probably roll Washington, Georgia would demolish Toledo, Wisconsin and Miami would be a fun one, Baker Mayfield vs. Lane Kiffin would make for great TV, and Auburn vs. UCF in Scott Frost's sendoff would interesting as well.

And the games would mean so much more than the current bowl system, outside of the current playoff.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:49 pm
by jpfalcon09
I'd prefer a 10-team playoff, conference winners only. Top six teams get a bye in the first round while 7 plays 8 and 9 plays 10.

7) Boise State vs. 8) Toledo
9) FAU vs. 10) Troy

1) Clemson vs. FAU/Troy
2) Oklahoma vs. Boise State/Toledo
3) Georgia vs. 6) USC
4) UCF vs. 5) Ohio State

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:59 pm
by Schadenfreude
I like the 16 team concept. Always have. It's basically what all the other divisions and subdivisions do. Who is to say that Central Florida couldn't beat Auburn or Toledo couldn't beat Georgia?

I personally think there is a chance that we eventually go to eight, with a G5 conference champ guaranteed a spot. Then, perhaps after more time, we could go to 16 with all conferences represented.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:42 pm
by Globetrotter
Schadenfreude wrote:I like the 16 team concept. Always have. It's basically what all the other divisions and subdivisions do. Who is to say that Central Florida couldn't beat Auburn or Toledo couldn't beat Georgia?

I personally think there is a chance that we eventually go to eight, with a G5 conference champ guaranteed a spot. Then, perhaps after more time, we could go to 16 with all conferences represented.
I think it's much more likely the P5 leaves us behind and we have our own group. It's why I have given up on college football for the most part.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:06 pm
by Schadenfreude
Globetrotter wrote: 7 Auburn 10-3 (7) 10 UCF 12-0 (10)
Oddly enough, Central Florida is going to play Auburn.

It will be interesting to see how they do!

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:07 pm
by mmisbg
I've been saying this for years. It's stupid that FBS doesn't do it this way. There is no logical argument against it.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:10 am
by gmartin
I like the idea of a 16 team playoff however I prefer my idea on how to get those 16 teams better. Each of the power 5 conferences get in 2 teams. Each of the power 5 conferences gets in the conference Champion as well as the runner-up. The conference Champion gets the higher seed in the playoffs. That will then get you 10 teams out of the 16. Five more teams come from each of the conference champions from the Group of 5. You now have one more bid available. The 16th team will come from any of the Independenta or a deserving at-large bid. This way each of the power conferences get two and only two teams into the playoff. It allows each of the smaller schools one bid but also leaves an open wildcard just in case you have a second deserving team. Like this year you could say Memphis and UCF each should be in the playoff. Or possibly Auburn or Penn State as the third team from a conference.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:55 pm
by TalonsUpPuckDown
How does Notre Dame fit into all of this?

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:35 pm
by Schadenfreude
TalonsUpPuckDown wrote:How does Notre Dame fit into all of this?
They would compete for an at-large bid.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:04 pm
by gmartin
In my scenario Notre Dame would be as an independent/at large. My scenario is 2 from each Power 5, 1 from each Group of 5, and then 1 independent/at large. If ND doesn't like that join the ACC like you are in basketball. If they finish 1st or 2nd they qualify. If you can't finish top 2 on your conference or be the deserving at large then you have no reason to complain. I like my idea. I think it's fair to everyone (power schools, G5, and sometimes even a 2nd G5 if they having a record season.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:16 pm
by Globetrotter
gmartin wrote:I like the idea of a 16 team playoff however I prefer my idea on how to get those 16 teams better. Each of the power 5 conferences get in 2 teams. Each of the power 5 conferences gets in the conference Champion as well as the runner-up. The conference Champion gets the higher seed in the playoffs. That will then get you 10 teams out of the 16. Five more teams come from each of the conference champions from the Group of 5. You now have one more bid available. The 16th team will come from any of the Independenta or a deserving at-large bid. This way each of the power conferences get two and only two teams into the playoff. It allows each of the smaller schools one bid but also leaves an open wildcard just in case you have a second deserving team. Like this year you could say Memphis and UCF each should be in the playoff. Or possibly Auburn or Penn State as the third team from a conference.
As long as all 10 conferences get their winner in I don't care what it looks like

For reference in my scenario.
Big 10: Penn S, OSU, Wisconsin
Big 12:Oklahoma
SEC: Alabama, Georgia, Auburn
ACC: Clemson, Miami
Pac 10: USC, Washington

So in your scenario TCU is in replacing either Auburn or Penn State? I can't argue against that.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:14 pm
by gmartin
Correct. TCU in, Penn State out. However PSU could get the At large bid unless someone else is a better fit. My scenario is only 2 from each Power conference, so even with the conference championship both teams make the playoffs. Then one each from each G5 conference. So that's 15 teams then one Independent or a deserving at large. I just don't think each conference should have more than 2. If you can't win your conference or be 2nd place you shouldn't be in a playoff.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:04 am
by Beaker
gmartin wrote:I like the idea of a 16 team playoff however I prefer my idea on how to get those 16 teams better. Each of the power 5 conferences get in 2 teams. Each of the power 5 conferences gets in the conference Champion as well as the runner-up. The conference Champion gets the higher seed in the playoffs. That will then get you 10 teams out of the 16. Five more teams come from each of the conference champions from the Group of 5. You now have one more bid available. The 16th team will come from any of the Independenta or a deserving at-large bid. This way each of the power conferences get two and only two teams into the playoff. It allows each of the smaller schools one bid but also leaves an open wildcard just in case you have a second deserving team. Like this year you could say Memphis and UCF each should be in the playoff. Or possibly Auburn or Penn State as the third team from a conference.
This makes way too much sense and would be great for the fans..........so it'll never happen. I do like it though. If this were ever implemented, I could see them doing something goofy for that last at large slot. They could open it up to a popular fan vote online, the way they do for the last MLB all start spot. That would make the big money conferences happy, since it would guarantee that spot never goes to a non P5. Fun idea, but no chance of it happening. I can't ever see a scenario where the powers that control the current system would ever want to share with the little guys.

Re: 16 team playoff

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:29 am
by Schadenfreude
Beaker wrote:I can't ever see a scenario where the powers that control the current system would ever want to share with the little guys.
I never imagined a day when Northern Illinois and Western Michigan play in the Orange and Cotton bowls. Progress takes time.