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Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:26 pm
by hammb
Damn, getting canned here was the best thing that ever happened to his career. I love Kingsbury as an offensive mind, no idea what Jinks does well wasn't enamored with anything in his tenure.

Crazy to think how quickly he's vaulted his career.

Kinda surprised by the Kingsbury thing too. Thought he'd have a legit shot of NFL OC gigs after getting fired, but didn't see an NFL HC gig coming. Will be fun to watch.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:37 pm
by BillyLP
hammb wrote:Damn, getting canned here was the best thing that ever happened to his career. I love Kingsbury as an offensive mind, no idea what Jinks does well wasn't enamored with anything in his tenure.

Crazy to think how quickly he's vaulted his career.

Kinda surprised by the Kingsbury thing too. Thought he'd have a legit shot of NFL OC gigs after getting fired, but didn't see an NFL HC gig coming. Will be fun to watch.
I couldn't imagine being a Cardinals fan and being excited about hiring a .500 coach that just got fired from a middling Big 12 school.

Good for Jinks. He is much better suited to be a position coach and I hope he has success in the NFL.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:46 pm
by hammb
drumstix2388 wrote:
hammb wrote:Damn, getting canned here was the best thing that ever happened to his career. I love Kingsbury as an offensive mind, no idea what Jinks does well wasn't enamored with anything in his tenure.

Crazy to think how quickly he's vaulted his career.

Kinda surprised by the Kingsbury thing too. Thought he'd have a legit shot of NFL OC gigs after getting fired, but didn't see an NFL HC gig coming. Will be fun to watch.
I couldn't imagine being a Cardinals fan and being excited about hiring a .500 coach that just got fired from a middling Big 12 school.

Good for Jinks. He is much better suited to be a position coach and I hope he has success in the NFL.
If there's anything I've learned in my years of NFL fandom we, as fans, have ZERO idea who will be a good HC at the time of hiring. The things NFL HCs need to do are never exemplified at all whether they start as college coaches or come up the ranks as NFL position/coordinators/etc. There is zero correlation between high level experience/success and NFL HC success, so who knows.

One thing I would be excited about is they didn't go with an NFL good ol' boy hire. The best offensive minds in the world are coming up through the college ranks, and the NFL is FINALLY starting to catch on to these offensive systems. I think Kingsbury will build a legit offense there. I'm skeptical about his ability to bring on a good defensive staff though. He should be looking to add NFL experience to his staff just for some credibility sake in the lockerroom (another reason Jinks going with him shocked me). He couldn't build a defense that does anything at TT. I don't know that he recruited that well either.

He did coach 2 of the best young NFL QBs while at Tech too.

Dunno, the whole thing is odd. I think he'll build a good offense, but who knows if that leads to wins. Josh Rosen is a COMPLETELY different bird from Baker/Mahomes though, that's an interesting marriage...

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:36 pm
by Antimob
Amazing that the Kingsbury/Jinks offensive system the NFL is so enamored with failed so spectacularly when tried here.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:56 pm
by MarkL
Kingsbury's biggest problem was lack of defense, both in terms of talent and coordination. That won't be a problem in the NFL. I could see this working. Biggest hurdle for Kingsbury will be working with already developed pros as opposed to raw talented 18 year olds.

Jinks was supposedly a good recruiter. That won't matter in the NFL. So his move is puzzling. He was a fine RB coach at Tech and developed some good RBs here, yet he was hired at both places to be a recruiter. Why go somewhere where recruiting is not part of the job? If I had to take a guess, USC gave Jinks no guarantees when Kingsbury left not knowing who the new OC would be, so Jinks followed Kingsbury where he was guaranteed a job.

I wish them both success. Perhaps Jinks will become a better coach.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:24 am
by Falconwriter
hammb wrote:
drumstix2388 wrote:
hammb wrote:Damn, getting canned here was the best thing that ever happened to his career. I love Kingsbury as an offensive mind, no idea what Jinks does well wasn't enamored with anything in his tenure.

Crazy to think how quickly he's vaulted his career.

Kinda surprised by the Kingsbury thing too. Thought he'd have a legit shot of NFL OC gigs after getting fired, but didn't see an NFL HC gig coming. Will be fun to watch.
I couldn't imagine being a Cardinals fan and being excited about hiring a .500 coach that just got fired from a middling Big 12 school.

Good for Jinks. He is much better suited to be a position coach and I hope he has success in the NFL.
IHe did coach 2 of the best young NFL QBs while at Tech too.
And he ran one of those QBs (Baker) off the team, apparently not recognizing his potential. I also wouldn't be very excited about this coaching staff if I were a Cardinals fan.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:08 am
by hammb
Falconwriter wrote:
hammb wrote:
drumstix2388 wrote:
hammb wrote:Damn, getting canned here was the best thing that ever happened to his career. I love Kingsbury as an offensive mind, no idea what Jinks does well wasn't enamored with anything in his tenure.

Crazy to think how quickly he's vaulted his career.

Kinda surprised by the Kingsbury thing too. Thought he'd have a legit shot of NFL OC gigs after getting fired, but didn't see an NFL HC gig coming. Will be fun to watch.
I couldn't imagine being a Cardinals fan and being excited about hiring a .500 coach that just got fired from a middling Big 12 school.

Good for Jinks. He is much better suited to be a position coach and I hope he has success in the NFL.
IHe did coach 2 of the best young NFL QBs while at Tech too.
And he ran one of those QBs (Baker) off the team, apparently not recognizing his potential. I also wouldn't be very excited about this coaching staff if I were a Cardinals fan.
Well ya know, you have to remember he had Davis Webb there!

Something tells me Baker's opinion of Mr. Kingsbury isn't that different from his opinion of one Hue Jackson...should be fun when they go down to Arizona next year.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:24 am
by pdt1081
Antimob wrote:Amazing that the Kingsbury/Jinks offensive system the NFL is so enamored with failed so spectacularly when tried here.
I know, right. Being surrounded by all that NFL talent and couldn't make it work.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 am
by Falconwriter
hammb wrote:
Falconwriter wrote:
hammb wrote:
drumstix2388 wrote:
hammb wrote:Damn, getting canned here was the best thing that ever happened to his career. I love Kingsbury as an offensive mind, no idea what Jinks does well wasn't enamored with anything in his tenure.

Crazy to think how quickly he's vaulted his career.

Kinda surprised by the Kingsbury thing too. Thought he'd have a legit shot of NFL OC gigs after getting fired, but didn't see an NFL HC gig coming. Will be fun to watch.
I couldn't imagine being a Cardinals fan and being excited about hiring a .500 coach that just got fired from a middling Big 12 school.

Good for Jinks. He is much better suited to be a position coach and I hope he has success in the NFL.
IHe did coach 2 of the best young NFL QBs while at Tech too.
And he ran one of those QBs (Baker) off the team, apparently not recognizing his potential. I also wouldn't be very excited about this coaching staff if I were a Cardinals fan.
Well ya know, you have to remember he had Davis Webb there!

Something tells me Baker's opinion of Mr. Kingsbury isn't that different from his opinion of one Hue Jackson...should be fun when they go down to Arizona next year.
I believe, as with Hue Jackson, there are other things that happened between Mayfield and Kingsbury that have left this lingering chip on his shoulder. And yes, it should be a lot of fun to watch. Let's just hope Cincinnati is stupid enough to hire Hue Jackson.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:28 am
by BillyLP
Falconwriter wrote:
hammb wrote:
Falconwriter wrote:
hammb wrote:
drumstix2388 wrote:
hammb wrote:Damn, getting canned here was the best thing that ever happened to his career. I love Kingsbury as an offensive mind, no idea what Jinks does well wasn't enamored with anything in his tenure.

Crazy to think how quickly he's vaulted his career.

Kinda surprised by the Kingsbury thing too. Thought he'd have a legit shot of NFL OC gigs after getting fired, but didn't see an NFL HC gig coming. Will be fun to watch.
I couldn't imagine being a Cardinals fan and being excited about hiring a .500 coach that just got fired from a middling Big 12 school.

Good for Jinks. He is much better suited to be a position coach and I hope he has success in the NFL.
IHe did coach 2 of the best young NFL QBs while at Tech too.
And he ran one of those QBs (Baker) off the team, apparently not recognizing his potential. I also wouldn't be very excited about this coaching staff if I were a Cardinals fan.
Well ya know, you have to remember he had Davis Webb there!

Something tells me Baker's opinion of Mr. Kingsbury isn't that different from his opinion of one Hue Jackson...should be fun when they go down to Arizona next year.
I believe, as with Hue Jackson, there are other things that happened between Mayfield and Kingsbury that have left this lingering chip on his shoulder. And yes, it should be a lot of fun to watch. Let's just hope Cincinnati is stupid enough to hire Hue Jackson.
As a life long Bengals fan who acknowledges they are the worst run franchise in sports, Hue wouldn't surprise me in the least. The Brown family will hire whoever they think will lead to more money flowing into their pockets.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:39 am
by jpfalcon09
Mike Jinks went to the Dan Dakich school of failing upwards.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:16 pm
by lookimrory
Does anyone know what the effect this will make on the money BG owes Jinks?

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:37 pm
by jpfalcon09
lookimrory wrote:Does anyone know what the effect this will make on the money BG owes Jinks?
No effect. Both sides settled on a lower amount about a month ago. The book is closed on his contract with BG.

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:45 pm
by Tony4BG
Some are reporting Jinks may stay at SoCal

Re: Jinks to the Cardinals

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:25 pm
by Antimob
pdt1081 wrote:
Antimob wrote:Amazing that the Kingsbury/Jinks offensive system the NFL is so enamored with failed so spectacularly when tried here.
I know, right. Being surrounded by all that NFL talent and couldn't make it work.
So all he needed was NFL talent to make a college offense work. Now they're in the NFL with NFL talent but they'll be going against other teams with NFL talent per the rigid organizational and roster composition structure of the NFL. Is that like when Wolverine fights a version of himself in X-Men?