As reported on a rival board...

mossmaidi · Post by **mossmaidi** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:37 pm

These are the offenses a UT fan spent considerable amount of time researching traffic offenses by each BG football player over the past few years lol .... from the ncaabbs UT board:

Public domain information obtained in a search from the Bowling Green, Ohio Municipal Court site (http://www.bgcourt.org). Roll on you BG Warriors:

On 10/15/04 a warrant was issued on Charles Sharon. They took 25 head hairs, swabbed the inside of his mouth, took blood, and did finger and palm prints for evidence in a robbery case. He has been arraigned and a court date is pending. Obviously there is something to this whole pizza thing. He has been allowed to stay on the team and play. He played in their homecoming game the day after the execution of the search warrant, having 5 catches for 88 yards and a TD.

WR Steve Sanders has 7 traffic violations in the last 3 years.

LB Jovon Burkes had 2 charges of disorderly conduct and 1 charge of resisting arrest, although he was found not guilty on all 3 charges. He also had 2 traffic violations in the past year.

DB Melvin Cole has an unpaid speeding ticket from 5/27/04 and was charged with Criminal trespass and disorderly conduct on 6/06/04. He owes the courts $160 still and it is considered delinquent.

DB Keon Newson has 4 traffic violations in the last 3 years. On 1/08/05, a little over a ten days ago, he was arraigned for 2 traffic violations and charged with fleeing the scene.

DB John Nicholson was found guilty of disorderly conduct from back in 2002, his freshman season.

DB Tim Arnold has 4 traffic violations in the last 2 years and he has been charged with disorderly conduct with a finding of "guilty by referee".

Kicker Shaun Suisham has 1 traffic violation, an underage alcohol offense, and assault and burglary. The Assault and Burglary was in 2001 and he still owes $43 from the burglary charge, which was waived with a finding of "Bound Over".

LB John Haneline was charged for an underage alcohol offense on 9/05/04, the day after the Oklahoma game. He was found not guilty with a stipulation that he has to complete the Alcohol Diversion Program.

DE Devon Parks was charged with disorderly conduct and posession of criminal tools on 6/11/03. He was found guilty of disorderly conduct, but found not guilty of the posession charge.

OL Edmond Massey has 2 traffic violations in the last year. Also charged for criminal tresspassing, which was changed to disorderly conduct for an incident that happened on 6/06/04. He was found to be guilty and still owes the courts $40 from this charge.

DL Mike Thaler was charged with disorderly conduct on 12/15/02. The finding was "Waiver Guilty". .

OL Scott Mruczkowski was charged for auto trespass on 2/02/02 and was found guilty.

DE Ricky Walston has 10 traffic tickets in the last year. He still owes the court over $500 in unpaid tickets and I believe his license was revoked by the BMV.

Also, nearly 70% of the players on their football roster have received at least 1 traffic violation, mostly speeding or driving with expired plates, while on the football team.

Guys that are no longer on the team (probably because of what they did):

Jimmy Carson - Several traffic violations. Charged with disorderly conduct a couple of times. In July of 2004 a warrant was exercised that had them take 25 head hairs, swab his mouth, take blood, and imprints of fingers and palms for evidence on a robbery case. He has been arraigned and is waiting trial. He is no longer on the team, but Charles Sharon is. Some BG fans have said that Carson allegedly pulled a gun, but there is nothing listed on the docket of his charges about a gun.

Matt Leininger - Disorderly conduct and underage drinking charges on 8/04/2004. Found guilty of disorderly conduct and the underage drinking was dismissed. He was removed from the team.

bgsuman · Post by **bgsuman** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:51 pm

does this guy have a life? Seriously...

Falcon Commander · Post by **Falcon Commander** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:54 pm

more BG envy

momtartin · Post by **momtartin** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:00 pm

That is very pathetic, and its almost like they're comparing apples to oranges, drug selling to traffic tickets.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:43 pm

The rockette logic is as follows; "Policeman there...Falcon bad".

They don't want to focus on their declining enrollment, the ongoing discipline probems with their football team, the inability of their University administration and athletic department to play nice together and they certainly don't want to focus on the rapidly deteriorating economic picture in Toledo and its inevitable impact on the University's ability to market itself. No they don't want to focus on that, they want to look into the driving records of BGSU student athletes.

They aren't Marshall...but they're getting close.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm

TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS!? These guys are going straight to hell.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:52 pm

Well, it appears the boys in blue have reached an all-time low. I don't see anything on here about a gang of players attacking people at parties and putting people in the hospital. Talk about your Falcon envy...

Oh, and it is pretty classy to call out players on their driving records. Driving skill really determines how they play on the field and differentiates them from other students...

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:04 am

This is the difference between Toledo fans and BG fans.

A BG fan finds out about the player through the news.

A Toledo fan will go digging for dirt to just try and deface a player.

factman · Post by **factman** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:36 am

Anyone who reads Ranger Rocket's post, understands the "face value" of the post, and understands the reason for it. I think it is best to let him wallow in his own feces, and not respond.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:38 am

OK, let me get ready for the flames.

While I'll agree that these are not a laundry list of egregious offenses, it does illustrate that BG, like pretty much any other football program, has its share of disciplinary issues.

There are some who will thump their chest and proclaim that our program is perfect and void of anything but choir boys and boy scouts. Obviously, that is not the case. Combine that with the intense heat - no need to discuss the validity of it, just admit the existence of it - that UT fans take for their team's alleged thuggery and it's easy to understand why someone would go to this trouble.

Before letting the flames begin, let me say that I think Brandon is running an awesome program. The players, by and large, conduct themselves with dignity and class. I'm proud of our football team. They are not, however, perfect.

Flame away.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:54 am

1987alum wrote:OK, let me get ready for the flames.

While I'll agree that these are not a laundry list of egregious offenses, it does illustrate that BG, like pretty much any other football program, has its share of disciplinary issues.

There are some who will thump their chest and proclaim that our program is perfect and void of anything but choir boys and boy scouts. Obviously, that is not the case. Combine that with the intense heat - no need to discuss the validity of it, just admit the existence of it - that UT fans take for their team's alleged thuggery and it's easy to understand why someone would go to this trouble.

Before letting the flames begin, let me say that I think Brandon is running an awesome program. The players, by and large, conduct themselves with dignity and class. I'm proud of our football team. They are not, however, perfect.

Flame away.

Well said.

Most homes include some glass, and ours is no different.

Lord_Byron · Post by **Lord_Byron** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:08 am

1987alum wrote:OK, let me get ready for the flames.

While I'll agree that these are not a laundry list of egregious offenses, it does illustrate that BG, like pretty much any other football program, has its share of disciplinary issues.

There are some who will thump their chest and proclaim that our program is perfect and void of anything but choir boys and boy scouts. Obviously, that is not the case. Combine that with the intense heat - no need to discuss the validity of it, just admit the existence of it - that UT fans take for their team's alleged thuggery and it's easy to understand why someone would go to this trouble.

Before letting the flames begin, let me say that I think Brandon is running an awesome program. The players, by and large, conduct themselves with dignity and class. I'm proud of our football team. They are not, however, perfect.

Flame away.

No flame from me, '87. I had the same feeling, just didn't know how to put it into words.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:59 am

1987, you lousy bastard!!!!....(happy now?)

Anyway, why limit this to a discussion of the football program. Anyone who has lived in BG for any period of time will tell you that law enforcement tends to be aggressive with respect to traffic violations, particulalry with the student population. They also toe a pretty narrow line when it comes to "disorderly conduct" That philosphy helps to reinforce the notion that someone is watching (which can keep a small problem from escalating) and its a heck of revenue stream for the city. One need only take a gander at the blotter section in the Sentinel to see that.

But if we're going to admit that this problem is symptomatic of a problem at the University, aren't we admitting that it's a problem applicable to the country as a whole? Aren't we, as Americans, a bunch of crazed, irresponsible maniacs behind the wheel. Isn' t that what you're saying, 1987?*

Well, if you and your cronies want to spend your day bashing the USA, on Inauguration day no less, you can go right ahead. I'm going to kick back and open a can of Yankee Doodle whoop ass and watch GW take the oath!

(*Thanks to Doug Kenney <RIP> and the rest of the National Lampoon for providing me with that premise)

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:00 am

Man I thought everybody had 2 traffic offenses within a year while in College! Give my regards to the Defiance Traffic Court.

Does "maintaining posession" of your beer glass from Uptown or Howards constitute "theft". Say you were toad trippin over the border in SE Michigan and did the same thing, by coming back over state lines does that it make it a "Federal" offense??

Is there an internet site where alumni can check outstanding warrants, Toledo fan please let me know!!!!

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:01 am

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?