Presser 12/7/20
- roguewarrior
- Peregrine

- Posts: 1182
- Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:54 pm
Presser 12/7/20
I was greatly disturbed when he was asked, Loeffler did not name one young kid on the team that was "doing things right"; and rather eluding to recruits not yet here. He is seemingly relying on Eds, St. X, etc to hand him leaders. Driven kids are born, not made. PERIOD. They are not manufactured at winning high schools...they just have more of the good ones there, than most other schools. A coach needs to see them, direct them, lift them up , give them a voice, and make them better. Whether they are a long snapper, gunner on KO, or a walk on...they are there. If he keeps suggesting everyone here is s**t, that's what we will be. He is losing those handful of super dedicated kids, with every snub. This I know. He said it himself, and it is a fact...we have equal talent on the field, at least with an Akron. He better start lifting up a core of dedicated players that are here NOW, or we are doomed to fail.
It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
Re: Presser 12/7/20
Nailed it. All these players can’t be bad with no work ethic or an attitude problem. Just red flag after red flag with this staff.roguewarrior wrote:I was greatly disturbed when he was asked, Loeffler did not name one young kid on the team that was "doing things right"; and rather eluding to recruits not yet here. He is seemingly relying on Eds, St. X, etc to hand him leaders. Driven kids are born, not made. PERIOD. They are not manufactured at winning high schools...they just have more of the good ones there, than most other schools. A coach needs to see them, direct them, lift them up , give them a voice, and make them better. Whether they are a long snapper, gunner on KO, or a walk on...they are there. If he keeps suggesting everyone here is s**t, that's what we will be. He is losing those handful of super dedicated kids, with every snub. This I know. He said it himself, and it is a fact...we have equal talent on the field, at least with an Akron. He better start lifting up a core of dedicated players that are here NOW, or we are doomed to fail.
Re: Presser 12/7/20
This staff would tell anyone that would listen back in Jaunuary & Februrary 2019 how terrible it was. Talking about how the players couldn't even line up properly and such. The more that left the better. Meanwhile, Loeffler was running through his 2005 Michigan coaching rolidex bringing in Jim Hermann, Steve Morrison, VanGorder, and whoever else he had coached with back in the day. Maybe Scot needs to evolve. Like transfers are OK. They help short term until others are ready. Don't drug test to take the heat off yourself and blame the players. BGSU won't even discuss Covid test results, yet they are random drug testing in a pandemic? Take responsibility for the disaster that is your QB situation. The Toledo Blade actually took to print an article about what BGSU would get for Loeffler to be hired away from BGSU. That article was just 5 weeks ago. Comparisons to Clawson, were just a complete misread.
https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/bgsu ... 0201027138" target="_blank
I promised I would be here 5 years. I guaranteed it. Was that the biggest concern in the hiring process?
https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/bgsu ... 0201027138" target="_blank
I promised I would be here 5 years. I guaranteed it. Was that the biggest concern in the hiring process?
Re: Presser 12/7/20
Loeffler said McDonald will not practice this week. Which should be good for the younger QBs. But made it sound like he would play Saturday. Did I hear that right? And does that indicate the QB situation is so thin right now that a QB who didn't practice all week to heal is still a better option than anyone else? Ouch ...
MarkL has spoken.
You may all now return to your daily lives.
You may all now return to your daily lives.
- jpfalcon09
- Peregrine

- Posts: 8485
- Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:32 pm
- Location: Detroit Beach, MI
Re: Presser 12/7/20
Last game of a debacle of a season, best to toss McDonald out there and begin planning for 2021. Hopefully Davis and Keller are getting 1st team reps in practice that will benefit them going forward. Don't know what else to say.MarkL wrote:Loeffler said McDonald will not practice this week. Which should be good for the younger QBs. But made it sound like he would play Saturday. Did I hear that right? And does that indicate the QB situation is so thin right now that a QB who didn't practice all week to heal is still a better option than anyone else? Ouch ...
The longer the walk, the farther you crawl.
Re: Presser 12/7/20
I actually had the opposite thought. I would start Davis and have Keller ready to step in. One, give them real experience. Two, send a clear message that the position is up for competition. And three, show Ohio recruits that BG wants you. How better than to play QBs from state teams?jpfalcon09 wrote:Last game of a debacle of a season, best to toss McDonald out there and begin planning for 2021. Hopefully Davis and Keller are getting 1st team reps in practice that will benefit them going forward. Don't know what else to say.MarkL wrote:Loeffler said McDonald will not practice this week. Which should be good for the younger QBs. But made it sound like he would play Saturday. Did I hear that right? And does that indicate the QB situation is so thin right now that a QB who didn't practice all week to heal is still a better option than anyone else? Ouch ...
MarkL has spoken.
You may all now return to your daily lives.
You may all now return to your daily lives.
- roguewarrior
- Peregrine

- Posts: 1182
- Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:54 pm
Re: Presser 12/7/20
Heavy rumblings from Miami that they may be knee deep in COVID and game won’t happen. Disappointing really.... we need every test-players and coaches.
It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
- roguewarrior
- Peregrine

- Posts: 1182
- Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:54 pm
Re: Presser 12/7/20
I think I would give McDonald the start. Give him the first half, if by some chance we are in the game. Give Davis the third, and Keller the 4th against the replacements. Everyone gets a chance at success.MarkL wrote:I actually had the opposite thought. I would start Davis and have Keller ready to step in. One, give them real experience. Two, send a clear message that the position is up for competition. And three, show Ohio recruits that BG wants you. How better than to play QBs from state teams?jpfalcon09 wrote:Last game of a debacle of a season, best to toss McDonald out there and begin planning for 2021. Hopefully Davis and Keller are getting 1st team reps in practice that will benefit them going forward. Don't know what else to say.MarkL wrote:Loeffler said McDonald will not practice this week. Which should be good for the younger QBs. But made it sound like he would play Saturday. Did I hear that right? And does that indicate the QB situation is so thin right now that a QB who didn't practice all week to heal is still a better option than anyone else? Ouch ...
It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
- jpfalcon09
- Peregrine

- Posts: 8485
- Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:32 pm
- Location: Detroit Beach, MI
Re: Presser 12/7/20
Loeffler made it clear at the start of the season this is McDonald's team. I don't expect him to go against that, especially the last game of a bastardized season.MarkL wrote:I actually had the opposite thought. I would start Davis and have Keller ready to step in. One, give them real experience. Two, send a clear message that the position is up for competition. And three, show Ohio recruits that BG wants you. How better than to play QBs from state teams?jpfalcon09 wrote:Last game of a debacle of a season, best to toss McDonald out there and begin planning for 2021. Hopefully Davis and Keller are getting 1st team reps in practice that will benefit them going forward. Don't know what else to say.MarkL wrote:Loeffler said McDonald will not practice this week. Which should be good for the younger QBs. But made it sound like he would play Saturday. Did I hear that right? And does that indicate the QB situation is so thin right now that a QB who didn't practice all week to heal is still a better option than anyone else? Ouch ...
The longer the walk, the farther you crawl.
- roguewarrior
- Peregrine

- Posts: 1182
- Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:54 pm
Re: Presser 12/7/20
If we play, probably correct.jpfalcon09 wrote:Loeffler made it clear at the start of the season this is McDonald's team. I don't expect him to go against that, especially the last game of a bastardized season.MarkL wrote:I actually had the opposite thought. I would start Davis and have Keller ready to step in. One, give them real experience. Two, send a clear message that the position is up for competition. And three, show Ohio recruits that BG wants you. How better than to play QBs from state teams?jpfalcon09 wrote:Last game of a debacle of a season, best to toss McDonald out there and begin planning for 2021. Hopefully Davis and Keller are getting 1st team reps in practice that will benefit them going forward. Don't know what else to say.MarkL wrote:Loeffler said McDonald will not practice this week. Which should be good for the younger QBs. But made it sound like he would play Saturday. Did I hear that right? And does that indicate the QB situation is so thin right now that a QB who didn't practice all week to heal is still a better option than anyone else? Ouch ...
It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
Re: Presser 12/7/20
OSU / Michigan is canceled. Expecting more to follow this week.roguewarrior wrote:Heavy rumblings from Miami that they may be knee deep in COVID and game won’t happen. Disappointing really.... we need every test-players and coaches.
MarkL has spoken.
You may all now return to your daily lives.
You may all now return to your daily lives.
Re: Presser 12/7/20
Ohio-Kent State canceled
Re: Presser 12/7/20
Finally listened to the presser. Rogue, he mentioned how there were players "holding each other accountable" in the locker room afterwards. Any idea what that meant? Sounds to me like a fancy way of saying they got angry and yelled at one another.
BG '10
Attended more games than any responsible student should have.
Attended more games than any responsible student should have.
- Schadenfreude
- Professional tractor puller

- Posts: 6983
- Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:39 am
- Location: Colorado
Re: Presser 12/7/20
No question.drumstix2388 wrote:Finally listened to the presser. Rogue, he mentioned how there were players "holding each other accountable" in the locker room afterwards. Any idea what that meant? Sounds to me like a fancy way of saying they got angry and yelled at one another.
This isn't a bad thing. It means they care.
- Schadenfreude
- Professional tractor puller

- Posts: 6983
- Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:39 am
- Location: Colorado
Re: Presser 12/7/20
I'm not bothered by this based on what I can see. When asked if there were young players doing things right that would emerge as leaders in time, the first words out of Loeffler's mouth were: "Yeah, there's no question about that."roguewarrior wrote:I was greatly disturbed when he was asked, Loeffler did not name one young kid on the team that was "doing things right"; and rather eluding to recruits not yet here. He is seemingly relying on Eds, St. X, etc to hand him leaders. Driven kids are born, not made. PERIOD. They are not manufactured at winning high schools...they just have more of the good ones there, than most other schools. A coach needs to see them, direct them, lift them up , give them a voice, and make them better. Whether they are a long snapper, gunner on KO, or a walk on...they are there. If he keeps suggesting everyone here is s**t, that's what we will be. He is losing those handful of super dedicated kids, with every snub. This I know. He said it himself, and it is a fact...we have equal talent on the field, at least with an Akron. He better start lifting up a core of dedicated players that are here NOW, or we are doomed to fail.
It's true that he didn't specifically name anyone and started talking about his emphasis recruiting at the state's most successful high school football programs. But he seemed to be saying that the presence of young future leaders on the team was proof that his recruiting strategy was the right one. The fact that he didn't actually name names doesn't bother me. I can think of several reasonable explanations. (He forgot to answer that part of the question, or perhaps he didn't want to hurt the feelings of some players by singling a few others out in the media.)
That's my take, anyway.
