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MarkL wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:36 pm

Fly the upside-down M at the Doyt, baby!

.........and then what happened?

zete wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:18 am .........and then what happened?

Celebrated for a week, then beat the horse for a month. Next week, they'll start beating on the glue....

I think what's happened is conference teams have figured out the BG defense. EMU just lit the defense up in a way that neither has lit up or been lit up all year. Which exposes the BG offense rather quickly. When the defense is no longer able to hold opponents at 21 or below, the offense has to pick up the slack and I don't trust this current offense to pick up that kind of slack.

Look at the type of offenses that most MAC teams run, what schemes they are using, and then look at our losing streak against the MAC, which has now reached double figures. We try to dink and dunk our way down the field and don't have the horses to keep up or compete with our own MAC peers offensively. And I'm not talking about just this year where we obviously have a poor OL and young RB's, we've been doing this for 3 years now where even in the past couple seasons we had better OL's and veteran RB's and it was still a problem.

Our offensive philosophy is not even breaking the 20 points per game plateau through 8 games overall, which sadly is almost double what we averaged last year in a historically bad season in a number of ways. Further, our mark this year is barely over that 20 ppg mark in MAC play (22.5 ppg), which is a figure some of our MAC peers can easily score in a half. We aren't going to start winning many, or right now I could say any, MAC games until we start scoring 30+ points per game based on what we have to counter vs MAC opponents.

Like BG, lowly Akron isn't averaging 20 ppg either (they're even worse than BG at 16.5 ppg vs the MAC), but of course, they erupted for 28 second-half points in their win over us, which is way more than BG even averages per game offensively. Take a look at Ohio who is having a poor year record wise and is only averaging a couple points more than BG is at 21 ppg, however, the are averaging over a TD more in MAC play (28.5 ppg) and are in every single MAC game they play. In fact, Ohio hasn't been beaten by a MAC school by more than 7 points in SIX years! That's even including this season when they have only won 1 game. Think about that for a second, that's crazy. And it stems back to the fact Ohio always has very productive offenses (they have avg 39, 42, 34 and 34 ppg the last four years coming into this season) to go along with solid defensive play. The last MAC team to beat Ohio by more than 7 points was BG all the way back in 2015. And yet, I fully expect them to come to BG and light us up in a few weeks in a game that likely won't mean a darn thing.

BGSU33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:10 pm We try to dink and dunk our way down the field and don't have the horses to keep up or compete with our own MAC peers offensively.

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Our offensive philosophy is not even breaking the 20 points per game plateau through 8 games overall,

I don't know if it is philosophy so much as our lack of a credible deep attack, particularly on out patterns. Teams have perhaps figured out that it's okay to let McDonald try to beat him deep on the edges because he probably won't. They can bunch up the middle and key on short passes. The field is smaller.

If others disagree, I'll listen. It could be that I caught him on a bad day, but I wasn't impressed with the deep out throws I was seeing against Northern Illinois.

Schadenfreude wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:33 pm

BGSU33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:10 pm We try to dink and dunk our way down the field and don't have the horses to keep up or compete with our own MAC peers offensively.

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Our offensive philosophy is not even breaking the 20 points per game plateau through 8 games overall,

I don't know if it is philosophy so much as our lack of a credible deep attack, particularly on out patterns. Teams have perhaps figured out that it's okay to let McDonald try to beat him deep on the edges because he probably won't. They can bunch up the middle and key on short passes. The field is smaller.

If others disagree, I'll listen. It could be that I caught him on a bad day, but I wasn't impressed with the deep out throws I was seeing against Northern Illinois.

Pretty much my assessment. Akron did this in the 2nd half and we saw the results. They brought the safeties up and shrank the field and the offense didn't adjust. Rarely do we see nine routes against man coverage. Feels like the offense is playing right into the defense's hands on some occasions. Big reason why this scheme is failing. A good run game may help in play action scenarios, but until the offense tries to extend the field there will be struggles moving the ball. Then we'll be told the OL is young and inexperienced...