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Are you serious?
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:33 am
by OptionQB
I apologize in advance . . . I don't have a link that works, but Mel Kiper, Jr. has Charlie Frye as #4 on the Top 25 Big Board as far as NFL Prospects are concerned.
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:39 am
by Metz
Re: Are you serious?
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:12 pm
by hammb
OptionQB wrote:I apologize in advance . . . I don't have a link that works, but Mel Kiper, Jr. has Charlie Frye as #4 on the Top 25 Big Board as far as NFL Prospects are concerned.
Not surprised in the least. As I've said, Charlie Frye is the real deal. He'd be a heisman candidate on a real team.
Re: Are you serious?
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:17 pm
by CapitalFalcon
hammb wrote:Not surprised in the least. As I've said, Charlie Frye is the real deal. He'd be a heisman candidate on a real team.
Now Hammb...We "unreal" teams need to stick together...
Re: Are you serious?
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:18 pm
by hammb
MotownFalcon wrote:hammb wrote:Not surprised in the least. As I've said, Charlie Frye is the real deal. He'd be a heisman candidate on a real team.
Now Hammb...We "unreal" teams need to stick together...
Be "real team" I was including BG, UT, Marshall, Miami(OH), NIU, along with other good teams. I am not including the likes of Indiana, Temple, etc.
My statement was not an indictment on the conference, but on the quality of his surrounding cast. Akron has an offense not around Frye, but BECAUSE of Frye. He is what makes that thing work. They have no semblance of a defense. There defense alone will guarantee at least 4-5 losses this season, thus removing him from Heisman consideration.
If Charlie Frye played on a 1 or 2 loss team, regardless of conference affiliation, would be mentioned as a legit Heisman Candidate. J5 was mentioned with the Heisman last year, because we were good. Conversely Antwan Randle El at IU did all one could ask and was still not mentioned as a candidate. The fact is you cannot win the Heisman by being a great player on a bad team.