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First of all, I think you all saw what I've been saying. Oklahoma is freaking good. BG played the game of their lives today and they still fell. I was very impresed with our team, however, and am more optimistic about the course this season will take than I was before today. That said we still have serious problems with that DL!

I'm not saying our DL guys don't give 100% effort, because they do, but it still is the coaches' fault for putting them in a position to fail. Every game we have lost in the last 3 years has been due to our DL getting dominated at the LoS. Why? Because they're too freaking small to stuff the run against a good Division 1A OL. You cannot expect 250 pound DTs to consistently clog up the middle against 320 pound OGs. They do yeoman's work down low, but they are put into a position where they cannot possibly succeed. This continues to be my biggest complaint about our team in recent years. The fact is that if OU had wanted to they could've run the ball up the middle every play and we never would've stopped it. We allowed one RB to set a career high and another (albeit very talented FR) RB to to get 100 yards in his first collegiate game.

Keon Newson played his little @$$ off today. He was the one defensive guy that was constantly around the ball and making plays. Like Option mentioned in another thread, however, he really needed to be more on Clayton, especially in the redzone. His first TD he was matched up with a LB...that ain't good. Another time he was matched up with Terrill Mayberry. Now I have faith in Mayberry to eventually be a good DB, but one on one with a serious Biletnikoff candidate in his first game of action? Not a good idea, IMO.

Omar is a playa. The dude made plays all game long with his feet. He didn't gain major yardage, but he used his feet to get into a position to get the ball to his weapons, who did damage. PJ Pope was especially effective catching the ball out of the backfield. Chuck Sharon continues to be the big playmaker on this offense as well. His fumble was very costly, but he still played a great game. Wish he could've hauled in that long ball down the right sideline where he had the cover-2 beat, but oh well. As we all know not even the best defenses can stop our offense.

I was hoping to see more from Cole Magner & Hawkins, but we have so many weapons that we can use some of them as decoys to free up the others if need be.

Possibly most impressive of all for our offense was our OL. We did not give up a single sack to Oklahoma's defense with a first time starting QB out there. He did a good job getting rid of the ball, but still that says something about that OL. If they can do that to OU they'll dominate the MAC.

My initial overall reaction is that we've looked the best of all the MAC teams I saw today. I didn't get to see any of the NIU game, but it looks like they gave Maryland another dogfight; this year in Maryland. UT & Miami(OH) looked like crap. Not surprising to see UT give up yards by the barrel, but damn I thought Miami would look better. Marshall falls (again) to the vaunted Trojans of Troy State (which is in Alabama for those curious ;)). All in all it is clear that this year's MAC is not last year's MAC. We are among the best in this conference again. The OU game is over, let's hope we can take care of business and run the table from hear on out. We should be favored in almost all of our remaining schedule, and running it is not out of the question. I was very impressed by our team today, hope they keep it up!
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Post by orangeandbrown »

Hammb, you have no idea how much time you just saved me! I was going to write a long post on the game, but you said it all, so I'm going to finish my beer and go to bed!

Today's game has left me optimistic. Omar is going to be a good one. I see no reason for us not to win the West again.
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Post by Tricky_Falcon »

Excellent analysis...Hammb. I've given you crap about a lot of your posts on here. This is one post I actually agree with you 100%.
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Bri,

That would have made a good article. ;-)
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hammb wrote:BG played the game of their lives today and they still fell.
I agree with the vast, vast majority of what you wrote, but I didn't feel like BG played particularly well. It seemed like there must've been five passes dropped that would have gone for first downs. They probably wouldn't have changed the outcome, but I just sensed a handful of uncharacteristic mental lapses.

That said, Oklahoma was the better team. They were impressive. They deserved to win.
I was very impresed with our team, however, and am more optimistic about the course this season will take than I was before today.
Absolutely. Looks to me like we have the best team in the MAC, at least right now.

Omar really impressed me. Here's a sophomore, making his first career start AT OKLAHOMA, and throwing for 218 yards, two scores, and no interceptions. He's got a long way to go to match J5, but then, I remember being very unimpressed the first time I watched Harris get most of the snaps. (The Toledo game his freshman year, IIRC.)

Keon was amazing. Just amazing.

Watching the game, I felt like Magner wasn't being used as a decoy, but that Oklahoma went into the game dead-set on shutting him down. I think they were right to do that - I really believe Cole is the key to the offense.

I trust Gregg Brandon with an offense more than just about anybody, so believe me when I say I'm not second-guessing here. But I expected he'd throw the kitchen sink at OU - run that crazy formation with only Pope in the backfield...maybe send Omar in motion a couple times and let Magner take a handful of snaps at QB. One of the advantages I felt like BG had heading into the game was that they do a ton of stuff Oklahoma's never seen before. I felt like that would keep the defense a bit off-balance. But, like I said, coach Brandon has forgotten more about running an offense than I'll ever know. I'll defer to him on this one.

I'm not into moral victories. Moral victories are for people who can't get their hands on regular victories.

But today I'm proud of our guys. Proud to be a Falcon.

Now it's time to run the table.
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Post by BGSU99 »

Hammb -- I have to agree with you on this one. I came out of this game very optimistic about our chances for the rest of the season. I also agree with your point, though, about our D-line being a bit undersized. It seems like we have problems with running teams that have big offensive linemen. Thankfully, I don't think we see an O-line like Oklahoma's the rest of the way. I think our D-line will do well against the offensive lines we will see in the MAC. As for the offense, if our O-line can open up some holes for PJ and protect the way they did today (0 sacks against OU's D-line), we should be in good shape the rest of the way. I'm stoked for the rest of the season. I was stoked for this season anyway because I think many publications are underestimating us and I want to see us prove them all wrong (I've seen us picked as low as 3rd in the West Division). After watching us do some good things today, I am pumped. Next Saturday can't get here soon enough. Playing Southeast Missouri State will give us a nice opportunity to make adjustments, then we will have almost two weeks to get ready for a big MAC opener at Northern Illinois.
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Tons of upside to the game. I don't think Miami or UT will play as badly as they did today, and they should improve over the course of the season. But as a starting point, BG seems to have come out of the gate, getting better results against better opposition than the rest of the MAC. If BG played less than perfect today, so much the better, they can improve just that much more.

Now Marshall blowing it against Troy state once more, that will warrant a visit to their message boards to watch them grind teeth over it. Miami have some glitches isn't surprising, I don't expect them to do as bad the rest of the year.

UT on the other hand, for all the kiss-a** hype from up north, they certainly wet their pants, rolled over, and died on the field against a beatable MN. team. They didn't simply lose, they got beaten to death. Ali-Amstutz and the 40 thieves looked and sounded like crap. So much the better.
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"Possibly most impressive of all for our offense was our OL. We did not give up a single sack to Oklahoma's defense with a first time starting QB out there. He did a good job getting rid of the ball, but still that says something about that OL. If they can do that to OU they'll dominate the MAC."




Your offense is designed for the QB to be almost unsackable. Real quick releases on short routes. I'm sure you'll roll thru the MAC......and then complain that you're not in the NC game! :lol:
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CaliSooner wrote:"Possibly most impressive of all for our offense was our OL. We did not give up a single sack to Oklahoma's defense with a first time starting QB out there. He did a good job getting rid of the ball, but still that says something about that OL. If they can do that to OU they'll dominate the MAC."




Your offense is designed for the QB to be almost unsackable. Real quick releases on short routes. I'm sure you'll roll thru the MAC......and then complain that you're not in the NC game! :lol:
Why why WHY must every one of your posts contain some sort of backhanded remark?
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That may have been the best team BG has ever played. The sequence late in the second qtr and the first part of the third killed us. We couldn't generate any offense and their offense just beat us to death. By the time the 4th qtr rolled around, the effort was there, but they were too gassed to do much about an OU offense that was committed to chewing clock. I don't think we'll see an OL that talented or a pair of backs as good as Peterson and Jones were today the rest of the season.

We'll be fine. My biggest concerns going into the season was how quickly Omar would adjust to starting and if he could resisit the temptation to try to do to much. He did fine. He stayed calm and played within the structure of the offense. He needs to work on bringin that 3/4 qtrs delivery up a bit, or he's going to have a LOT of passes batted down at the line

Our defense is going to be fine. Getting Leininger back this season will help the interior immensely. We did an excellent job of pursuing sideline to sideline. We did not do as well at the point of attcak. The secondary is still a concern. Mayberry made a couple of nice plays, but gave up a couple too. (although he got hosed on that interference call) The same can be said of Deaudre Perry. Neither one had started a game before, so it shouldn't be too suprsiing that they struggled at times. If something happens to Keon, we'll be in trouble though.

I watched a most of the UT and and a little of the Miami game. I think we have a lot less to work on than they do going into conference play. I like our chances in the MAC...a lot.
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I gotta agree with you others and try to take as many positives away from this. There were a lot of times I was disappointed that the def couldn't make a stop (note that OU was 3 for 3 on fourth downs :x ) but what it comes down to for me is that we had the ball late in the fourth quarter and we were still within two TDs (and two two pount conv :? ). Anybody who isn't thrilled with that does not understand how good a team Oklahoma really is.

And the fact that we went for it on fourth down late in the game, I think was an important decision. We could have easily just punted there, accept the fact we were going to lose and just hope it didn't get worse. By going for it there, Brandon was telling his team, "Hey, it's not over yet and I have confidence in you that we can still win this." Even though we didn't convert, I think that should give the players some confidence that we didn't throw in the towell.
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Warthog wrote:And the fact that we went for it on fourth down late in the game, I think was an important decision.
Great point Warthog! But man...why didn't Cole know where those sticks were on that play!?!? :-(

Some have criticized the coaching of Brandon as being soft or content with the status-quo. That 4th down attempt DID show me something. I said it at the time, but had since forgotten about it. Thanks for bringing that point up again. It was a great call.
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ZiggyZoomba wrote:Great point Warthog! But man...why didn't Cole know where those sticks were on that play!?!? :-(
I think he did. I noticed that we often threw the ball short of the first down line to let the guy run to the marker, because sometimes that's all the defense gives you. Then there were those two guys tackling him.
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ZiggyZoomba wrote:Some have criticized the coaching of Brandon as being soft or content with the status-quo. That 4th down attempt DID show me something. I said it at the time, but had since forgotten about it. Thanks for bringing that point up again. It was a great call.
Yeah, I remember some of the criticism from the first Miami game last year where some people thought we may have given up. So I thought I should bring up that we were fighting to the finish against the #2 team in the country. :)
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Hamb I agree with most of your post ,but must take major exception about the d-line. they did not get totally dominated at the los in fact on several plays rushing and passing Mike T. and Brad both stood up OU double teams and pushed them back.
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