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Celebration Rules
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:15 pm
by BGSUFootballFan
couldnt find this in here... but was just wondering if you all knew about the 13 new specific rules added to the "unsportsmanlike conduct" penalty for celebrating in the endzone... its all over newspapers here in West Lafayette
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:28 pm
by BGDrew
I'm not sure if the MAC is adopting these new rules.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:20 pm
by bgsuman
where are these new rules? Anyone copy and paste action?
Thanks!
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:23 pm
by MACMAN
More gheyness from the NCAA....
WE want players to be somber and melloncolly when they score, celebartation may hurt the feelings of the oposing team, and that is PC.
Further we have recieved many emails from Animal Rights activest and we have determined that the use of animals as mascots is degreadin to the animal and unacceptal...this is a great step forward for pc in college sports..we are a bunch of tight ass liberals here at the ncaa.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:33 pm
by TG1996
MACMAN wrote:More gheyness from the NCAA....
WE want players to be somber and melloncolly when they score, celebartation may hurt the feelings of the oposing team, and that is PC.
Further we have recieved many emails from Animal Rights activest and we have determined that the use of animals as mascots is degreadin to the animal and unacceptal...this is a great step forward for pc in college sports..we are a bunch of tight ass liberals here at the ncaa.
huh?
celebartation is limited because it draws attention to one player. it's certainly one of the more minor sportsmanship violations, and I like a little celebartation, but limiting it is completely understandable.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:43 pm
by TG1996
and by the way... a link:
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php ... cle_id/415
isn't (insert favorite search engine name here) an amazing tool?
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:22 am
by BGSUFootballFan
thanks TG, that was the link i was looking for to post on here!
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:56 am
by BelieveNBG
Some of the rules seem a tad bit ridiculous to me, especially the one about punching ones own chest. Guys punch their chest sometimes as an expression to tell ones own self to be tuff. It's somewhat of a motivation to yourself and has nothing to do with taunting another player. I agree with alot of what Joe Tiller said in that article about how guys are full of emotion and when they cross that plane and score they are overcome with excitement. Heck, just look how nuts the fans go and we aren't even accomplishing anything.
Don't go so overboard as to take the emotion/excitement out of the game. As long as it's not taunting the other team, let it go. GEEZ!!! :coo-coo:
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:58 am
by transfer2BGSU
If they would just flip the ball to the ref and act like they've been there before, nothing would happen.
These rules have come into effect because of jack-@$$e$ like Deion Sanders, Terrell Owens, and who can forget the infamous Leon Lett getting caught from behind by Don Beebe in the Super Bowl XXVII as he was showboating,
This is an NCAA rule I actually agree with.
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:18 am
by Jacobs4Heisman
As long as sanders and sharon can still leap 4 feet in the air chest to chest to celebrate after touchdowns, they can implement any rule they want.
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:57 am
by UK Peregrine
BelieveNBG wrote:Some of the rules seem a tad bit ridiculous to me, especially the one about punching ones own chest. Guys punch their chest sometimes as an expression to tell ones own self to be tuff.
I have to disagree with you on this specific point. We can make a correlation from the primate world, where "chest-beating" is used as a display to communicate to outlying silverbacks that they will be confronted if they attempt to enter a troop already controlled by a silverback. In much the same way gorillas use chest-beating, humans use it to signal others and not as a signal to oneself. It is not used as motivation to be tough. I can think of many other more appropriate approaches to motivate oneself. When a player makes a play on the ball and does the chest-beat afterwards, he is doing it in a similar manner to our primate friends and that is to draw attention to the signaler so that ALL signal receivers know who the man/silverback is. I believe very strongly that it's done to show-up the opponent.
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:59 am
by MACMAN
on't go so overboard as to take the emotion/excitement out of the game. As long as it's not taunting the other team, let it go. GEEZ!!!
thhis is exactly the point Why they dont want it...it is degrading the other team....
next thing you know the NCAA will come out say the term loss for the none winning team is degraing..and there are no lossers in college athletics...its hard on these kids and can build up an inferiority complex...so from now on no one losses in college football...all games in ties.
They are wacko liberals who are no longer on the edge....but down in the bottomles pitt yelling up and making no sense.
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:27 am
by Dayons_Den
UK Peregrine wrote:BelieveNBG wrote:Some of the rules seem a tad bit ridiculous to me, especially the one about punching ones own chest. Guys punch their chest sometimes as an expression to tell ones own self to be tuff.
I have to disagree with you on this specific point. We can make a correlation from the primate world, where "chest-beating" is used as a display to communicate to outlying silverbacks that they will be confronted if they attempt to enter a troop already controlled by a silverback. In much the same way gorillas use chest-beating, humans use it to signal others and not as a signal to oneself. It is not used as motivation to be tough. I can think of many other more appropriate approaches to motivate oneself. When a player makes a play on the ball and does the chest-beat afterwards, he is doing it in a similar manner to our primate friends and that is to draw attention to the signaler so that ALL signal receivers know who the man/silverback is. I believe very strongly that it's done to show-up the opponent.
GEEK AWARD POST OF THE DAY!!!!!
But I have to say I agree with you U.K. Saying that implementing these rules is "taking the emotion out of the game" is kinda crazy to me. One of the toughest emotion filled players ever, Jimmy Brown, just flipped the ball to the official and took some handshakes on his way back to the bench.
High fiving or up high jumping fives ala Webster Slaughter and Reggie Langhorn are cool much like the Sanders/Sharon chest bump, but I agree they do need to draw the line some where. It is absurd it has to be spelled out like this but idiots who have pushed the limits have required these measures to be taken.
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:08 pm
by BelieveNBG
I don't argue that taunting should not be tolerated. I agree with that. I also agree that dancing in the endzone is ridiculous, but displaying emotion when getting a touchdown is not taunting. It's a guy displaying emotion due to simply being elated. The only thing hurting the other team is those points going on the board. They could care less about your finger in the air.
This is no different than the quarterback that throws the touchdown pass running and high fiving the reciever. Forget a high five, don't even point back to your quarterback to suggest "nice pass". Just get off the field.
So when the kicker nails a 50 yarder, he needs to politely turn around and head to the sidelines. Don't show any emotion and certainly don't throw your fist up like our kicker did at this weekends scrimmage. The nerve of him taunting the defense like that. Just get off the field.
I agree that some take it to the extreme, but this doesn't mean the rules need to go to the extreme. Sometimes we need to use judgement and coaches need to use judgement. A little "extra exercise" for ridiculous field behavior from a coach can go a long way.
Last, the one thing that's missing on the list that I absolutely hate...when a defender makes a good hit, don't stand over the guy laying on the ground flexing like you are the HULK while yelling at him and telling him you are the man. Now that's taunting.
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:24 pm
by transfer2BGSU
BelieveNBG wrote:Sometimes we need to use judgement ...
And I think you will see more calls this year for celebrating, but I also think that when you look at the calls made, they will be appropriate. I don't see a high five or congratulatory hand shake in the end zone being flagged. A pile on in the end zone - most definitely and rightly so.