CFN - Now this is a little more like it!

Redwingtom · Post by **Redwingtom** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:45 am

Of course Leak is still WAAAAAAY to high.

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005 ... eisman.htm

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:08 pm

11. QB Marcus Vick, Virginia Tech – When it comes to the Heisman, everyone recognizes there’s a hype and notoriety factor, which helps a well-known player like Marcus Vick and hurts other such as Bowling Green’s Omar Jacobs. Because he’s a Vick, everything he does this fall—good or bag—carries three times the impact and gets three times the coverage.
Last Week: 12-of-19 for 172 yards, 3 TDs and 1 INT (Duke)
2005 Season: 22-of-40 for 280 yards, 4 TDs and 1 INT
Barometer: Steady

Is it just me or was Omar hyped as much or more coming into this season than vick?

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:40 pm

2005 Season: 7 receptions for 84 yards and 1 TD – 4 carries for 9 yards

Why is Tedd Ginn on this list?

JimmyZ11381 · Post by **JimmyZ11381** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:00 pm

First of all, they need to shorten that list because some guys just don't belong at this point. Tedd Ginn is one of them. I still think Omar has a great chance to win this thing...especially if he ends up with 50+ TDs and around 10 INTs or less. But, it will be tough to knock off Leinhart unless USC loses somwhere along the way.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:06 pm

This is all well and good and it's nice to see Omar's name on such lists, but he's not going to win the heisman. I think he'll get to NY if the team has a very good year, but no way does he get near the BCS guys.

edr4225 · Post by **edr4225** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:41 pm

JimmyZ11381 wrote:First of all, they need to shorten that list because some guys just don't belong at this point. Tedd Ginn is one of them. .

Wait just a minute there, Tedd Ginn did have a horrid game against Texas, but he still deserves to be on the top 15 hesiman list. He is still one of the most explosive and electrifying players in the college game. AS for Omar, the sky is the limit for our nasty QB, i wont be suprised if he breaks David Klingler’s single-season record of 54 touchdown passes. Heck, he might even break the single season pass yards record, you never know. All i know is that Omar is a well deserved heisman player and i happy he plays for our falcons. i cant wait to watch the heisman show at the end of the year, and see Omar sitting with the best in new york.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:50 pm

edr4225 wrote:
JimmyZ11381 wrote:First of all, they need to shorten that list because some guys just don't belong at this point. Tedd Ginn is one of them. .
Wait just a minute there, Tedd Ginn did have a horrid game against Texas, but he still deserves to be on the top 15 hesiman list. He is still one of the most explosive and electrifying players in the college game

Agreed, but until that explosiveness translates into big plays and numbers he doesn't deserve to be getting heisman votes. Once he starts showing that potential, his name can come back into the discussion.

Potential + a dollar can get you a McDonald's double cheeseburger.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:12 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:This is all well and good and it's nice to see Omar's name on such lists, but he's not going to win the heisman. I think he'll get to NY if the team has a very good year, but no way does he get near the BCS guys.

If he's invited to New York, that's pretty close to the Heisman in my book.

edr4225 · Post by **edr4225** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:09 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
If he's invited to New York, that's pretty close to the Heisman in my book.

Thats close in my book too

BGSUVA · Post by **BGSUVA** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:33 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:11. QB Marcus Vick, Virginia Tech – When it comes to the Heisman, everyone recognizes there’s a hype and notoriety factor, which helps a well-known player like Marcus Vick and hurts other such as Bowling Green’s Omar Jacobs. Because he’s a Vick, everything he does this fall—good or bag—carries three times the impact and gets three times the coverage.
Last Week: 12-of-19 for 172 yards, 3 TDs and 1 INT (Duke)
2005 Season: 22-of-40 for 280 yards, 4 TDs and 1 INT
Barometer: Steady

WOW 12-19 with 3TDs and a pick against that vaunted Duke defense? just give him the heisman...that is almost better than his below .500 performance in the first me of the season against State.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:56 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:This is all well and good and it's nice to see Omar's name on such lists, but he's not going to win the heisman. I think he'll get to NY if the team has a very good year, but no way does he get near the BCS guys.
If he's invited to New York, that's pretty close to the Heisman in my book.

My point is that being in the race and having a realistic shot at winning it are two very different things.

The best analogy I can come up with is a green party candidate being on the ticket for president. Sure he's in the running and anyone can vote for him, but he ain't gonna beat the big boys. My line of reasoning is that if I think he has a good chance to get to the top 5, but no chance of winning, then those are two totally different accomplishments.

Omar had maybe a 5-10% shot at winning if we made a BCS game and/or went undefeated. Now the chance is zero.

But I still think he'll get to new york if we win the MAC.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:20 am

Jacobs4Heisman wrote: Now the chance is zero.

I just don't agree. Zero is too pessimistic.

Falcon30 · Post by **Falcon30** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:50 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote: Now the chance is zero.
I just don't agree. Zero is too pessimistic.

If Lienart and USC lose a game, Omar does have a chance, and I think USC will lose one this year. Breaking the single season passing record and the TD record would be hard to argue with. When Jason White won, he got it by default for beaing the QB on the "best" (at that time) team. If we have a similar year, all the sports pundits who like to stir the pot will bring up Omar.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:41 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote: Now the chance is zero.
I just don't agree. Zero is too pessimistic.

agree to disagree then =) I'd bet any amount of money he doesn't win.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:59 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote: Now the chance is zero.
I just don't agree. Zero is too pessimistic.
agree to disagree then =) I'd bet any amount of money he doesn't win.

That ain't exactly what he's talking about. Read his post again.

Assclown.